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OPINION POLLS 2017

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Time for the Tories to go. They are artificially inflated by Brexit anyway.

 

You make them sound like Katie Price. :P

turns out the Youthquake wasn't a thing after all...

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42747342

 

If this is official and firm it throws into array the whole assumption that Labour did better because of young people. They did better because of thirty-somethings. This must be bad news for people assuming that people approaching middle age are going to turn Tory. That is not backed up by this evidence, and given new voters are much more likely to vote Labour and older Tory voters dying may not be replaced as quickly as people assume by other ageing voters becoming more right-wing. Throw in the NHS issue, which older voters get direct experience of (mine was yesterday, all day, for a parent) and I would suggest Tories should be very very afraid.....

A couple of polls out over the past week have shown narrow Conservative leads, but Survation continues to show a narrow Labour lead. Conclusion: Neck-and-neck still. :P

 

YouGov/Times: CON 43%(+1), LAB 39%(-3), LDEM 8%(+2)

Opinium: CON: 42% (+2) LAB: 39% (-1) LDEM: 7% (+1) UKIP: 5% (-)

Survation CON 40%(+3), LAB 43%(-2), LDEM 8%(+2)

A couple of polls out over the past week have shown narrow Conservative leads, but Survation continues to show a narrow Labour lead. Conclusion: Neck-and-neck still. :P

 

YouGov/Times: CON 43%(+1), LAB 39%(-3), LDEM 8%(+2)

Opinium: CON: 42% (+2) LAB: 39% (-1) LDEM: 7% (+1) UKIP: 5% (-)

Survation CON 40%(+3), LAB 43%(-2), LDEM 8%(+2)

 

It's unusual not to see the opposition with a significant lead at this stage in a parliament, though. It's like there's a glass ceiling for Labour at the 40-42% level...

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As I said in the 'Political Predictions 2018' thread, I don't see Labour or the Conservatives building a lead this year - I mean we've had multiple political disasters for the government (NHS crisis, cabinet ministers resigning, Carillion collapsing etc.) and little or no movement so I think there's a lot of inertia out there and that's probably to do with Brexit.
It's unusual not to see the opposition with a significant lead at this stage in a parliament, though. It's like there's a glass ceiling for Labour at the 40-42% level...

 

Plenty of opportunity for Labour to show some some balls, some ability to lead and make a stand for what's right in the world instead of doing nothing. Bear in mind this is support for a party that has apparently done absolutely nothing in it's required role as Opposition to act in the best interests of the country so far other than make election promises that it didn't get to carry out and keep a profile so low it's virtually horizontal. So, if they get off their vacillating arses and do something, as opposed to relying on the Tories to f*** things up and clear up after the mess when it's too late, they could be streets ahead in the polls...

Urgh who would vote for the party of the Landed Gentry? They are for the rich and only for the rich.

 

Might have something to do with the BBC and the media, and a lot to do with Brexit. Have you seen the video going round of the journalist telling a Tory, that was very good, when they think the cameras are off>

As I said in the 'Political Predictions 2018' thread, I don't see Labour or the Conservatives building a lead this year - I mean we've had multiple political disasters for the government (NHS crisis, cabinet ministers resigning, Carillion collapsing etc.) and little or no movement so I think there's a lot of inertia out there and that's probably to do with Brexit.

 

IMO it's as much to do with Corbyn - if not for him, I would probably be supporting Labour myself, as I did back in the Blairite era.

 

Plenty of opportunity for Labour to show some some balls, some ability to lead and make a stand for what's right in the world instead of doing nothing. Bear in mind this is support for a party that has apparently done absolutely nothing in it's required role as Opposition to act in the best interests of the country so far other than make election promises that it didn't get to carry out and keep a profile so low it's virtually horizontal. So, if they get off their vacillating arses and do something, as opposed to relying on the Tories to f*** things up and clear up after the mess when it's too late, they could be streets ahead in the polls...

 

But there's very little they *can* do in opposition, other than make extravagant promises - and that tactic already proved insufficient...

 

 

Urgh who would vote for the party of the Landed Gentry? They are for the rich and only for the rich.

 

Are you seriously claiming that 42% of the population are 'rich'?

 

According to this... https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/pe...e-and-after-tax

 

...the top 42% earn >£25.4k, as of about 3 years ago - if you assume the rise in the last 3 years was about the same in the previous 3, than that takes it up close to £28k. I very much doubt anyone on 28k would describe themselves as 'rich'!

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But there's very little they *can* do in opposition, other than make extravagant promises - and that tactic already proved insufficient...

They could try opposing for starters. I know their official title is "HM's Loyal Opposition" but that doesn't mean they're supposed to be loyal to the government.

They could try opposing for starters. I know their official title is "HM's Loyal Opposition" but that doesn't mean they're supposed to be loyal to the government.

 

I thought the Civil Service were the real opposition - at least according to 'Yes Minister'... ;)

What??

 

All their cuts and all their funneling of money to the rich by the families of the Landed Gentry = party of the rich. She vowed to defeat Labour policies - like hot eals for kids, an NHS, a society, in a party where the price of admission is more than a lot make in a year. That is Dickensian.

 

 

Yea, take a hike. The centre is NOT the right. Labour is a LEFT-wing party. If you want centre-right, vote Lib Dem. If you want hard Landed Gentry right, UKIP or Tories

What??

 

All their cuts and all their funneling of money to the rich by the families of the Landed Gentry = party of the rich. She vowed to defeat Labour policies - like hot eals for kids

 

I doubt many kids would eat those. :w00t:

I thought the Civil Service were the real opposition - at least according to 'Yes Minister'... ;)

And according to Jack Mogg as well.

What??

 

All their cuts and all their funneling of money to the rich by the families of the Landed Gentry = party of the rich. She vowed to defeat Labour policies - like hot eals for kids, an NHS, a society, in a party where the price of admission is more than a lot make in a year. That is Dickensian.

Yea, take a hike. The centre is NOT the right. Labour is a LEFT-wing party. If you want centre-right, vote Lib Dem. If you want hard Landed Gentry right, UKIP or Tories

 

Labour is currently a much more left-wing party than it has been in 30 years. That is not the norm.

 

The Lib-dems are centre-left not centre-right. The Nick/Cameron years were as a result of the Brown & Blair years and the electorate, not as a matter of policy leaning.

 

The Tories are more right-wing than they have traditionally been, currently.

 

Nothing is forever in politics, and if the left-wing balls things up they will be dumped like a sack of lead potatoes same as they were last time round.

New YouGov out, little change although it is nice to see them putting Labour back into the lead. :D

 

CON 40%(-3), LAB 41%(+2), LDEM 8%

 

Full report here.

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