I think they should be removed from the party like in the 1980s damn entryists #democracy

Nah, a lot of them aren't entryists. But a lot of them don't really seem to sign up to Clause I of the Labour Party Constitution.

There are major questions to be asked about how the party maintains a balance between leader, PLP and membership and they become more major the longer Corbyn stays. The more extreme parts of his support base will never accept responsibility if it continues to go tits up.

I miss Ed Miliband.

 

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Legend! :lol:

Nah, a lot of them aren't entryists. But a lot of them don't really seem to sign up to Clause I of the Labour Party Constitution.

 

Just change it like Blair did :P

Just change it like Blair did :P

At which point even I would think about leaving.

Just change it like Blair did :P

Change it so that there isn't the commitment to doing all we can to make sure Labour representatives and governments get elected?! Jesus, why not just join a pressure group.

Its easy to call someone with alternative views to yourself simply a pressure group much harder to think of an alternative platform to oppose their views and do it in such a way so that you understand Corbyn has the current mandate and stop sniping from the sidelines and let him get on with things.

Its easy to call someone with alternative views to yourself simply a pressure group much harder to think of an alternative platform to oppose their views and do it in such a way so that you understand Corbyn has the current mandate and stop sniping from the sidelines and let him get on with things.

But you were literally equating abolishing Clause IV with abandoning the idea that Labour should try and win elections.

But you were literally equating abolishing Clause IV with abandoning the idea that Labour should try and win elections.

 

You're thinking to much about clauses in the labour constitution, I just used that to make the point that Tony Blair is the only modern leader to change it that's all.

 

I believe people should just get behind Jez and let him succeed or fail on his mandate he has won and stop sneering from the sidelines. Tonights early murmurs from Oldham seems to show labour have a health majority :)

You're thinking to much about clauses in the labour constitution.

Always

 

I believe people should just get behind Jez and let him succeed or fail on his mandate he has won and stop sneering from the sidelines. Tonights early murmurs from Oldham seems to show labour have a health majority :)

I'm all for getting behind him, I'd just rather people who disagreed with him on things weren't violently threatened with deselection.

Idiots like Ken Livingstone will always suggest this but it will never happen and i will vehemently oppose action like this, they have to win the arguement through debate and Corbyn has repeatedly stated this.

 

There isnt much difference with Blairites taking over local parties in the noughties so their man would win selection too hence the PLP and members sqauring up now, but thats a past battle.

 

This goes back to the origins of the party and other parties like the SDP in Germany solved it in the 1950s due to the cold war being on their doorstep!

 

Spotted in Paris.

I can only presume that sentence is slightly less clunky as a piece of graffiti in French.

Simon Danczuk thinks we should divert foreign aid money to flood relief. That's about the top three things wrong with British politics all in the same story.

Simon Danczuk thinks we should divert foreign aid money to flood relief. That's about the top three things wrong with British politics all in the same story.

 

...and he has such a wonderfully traditionally British name too, it's not surprising he holds anti-foreigner views. Odd he should single out Bangla-desh though. Quite apart from providing the largest number of UN peace-keeping forces, and topping the world's child malnutrition table, and being British territory for 200 years and leaving it independant and piss-poor, what possible reason would the UK have for sending aid, eh?

 

Of course, when it comes to flooding, no-one knows better than Bangla-desh the problems of having to temporarily relocate and claim on your insurance so they can buy a new wooden shack to live in...

 

Thanks Simon for your input, don't call us, we won't call you. Promise!

Simon Danczuk thinks we should divert foreign aid money to flood relief. That's about the top three things wrong with British politics all in the same story.

He's so clunkingly and transparently populist. I genuinely can't remember the last time he said something and I didn't roll my eyes. His suggestion that he'd be a stalking horse candidate against Corbyn was probably the biggest worst of all worlds option, outside of Tristram Hunt maybe.

His constitunency is Rochdale what do you expect he basically has to act like a UKIP candidate to make people feel he sticks up for them.

Awful floods. I live in an area that's been hit (thankfully not me). It's great how the city has come together though.

 

Looks like this will only become more common though, damn climate change!