I'm not sure we need to go that far. Lee has held his hands up completely now, apologised and I say leave it at that. The BJSC mods have punished him as they saw fit, but this is almost 100% an isolated incident so there doesn't need to be any huge shake up of the hosting process. Well, aside from when cack handed numerical bufoons like me host, anyway.

Quite. An apology is what you wanted from Lee and a very heartfelt apology is what you got. There's been a lot of dragging his name through the mud in this thread, not entirely in an undeserved way but everybody does make mistakes and they shouldn't be hounded for them forever.

The rate was dpne by multiple people and the 'rotten edge' was just some poorly explained and designed rules. Nothing more sinister than that.

I agree. An proper apology has been delivered. Everyone is fully aware of the situation and can speculate for as long as they want, but nothing will really come from that.

 

Maybe the mods should close this thread now?

where has the rate results thread gone btw? now that was juicy

Ok disappointing, but holding grudges is a waste of time and energy for all concerned. Life is a learning process, lesson done, move on, all was fairly handled. I might be less forgiving if there were devastated victims but james is happy to move on and i'm very happy that he gets to host cos it was the best song entered in a strong song contest :cheer:

I've read through this thread and I can't say I wasn't pissed off at you cause you cost me a win I so badly wanted because I felt my song deserved to be a winner and my victory just doesn't feel as good as it would have done otherwise. It was the first entry I had in ages that I felt confident in and it was just like omg, what a dick he is. I'm Not holding it against you and I'm glad you've come forward and admitted what you've done.

 

As for this whole thing itself. It came straight off the back of something that has personally happened to me this last weekend involving trust in my own Life

 

Your own dishonestly Lee, coming on the heels of what happened with Jamie over this weekend has made it a particularly Sour birthday and weekend for myself and I can only say I will learn to trust you in time just like I will have to learn to trust Jamie again after the stunt he pulled.

 

I'm sorry for this rant and if there is anyone who wishes to be a shoulder to cry on for me then please inbox me x

Edited September 30, 20159 yr by JSG

Oh James, I'm so sorry to hear that :( if you want to talk at any point, I'm always open to listening :heart:

plot twist

 

whose Jamie???

Ha. Jamie has been my bf for nearly 3 and a half years.

Edited September 30, 20159 yr by JSG

oh ! thought it was someone on BJ

 

I'm free to talk if you ever want bud

Well...Bal did always play under the name Jamie whenever we went on Mario Kart :thinking:

Firstly, let me say that I'm not writing this for forgiveness. I'm doing it because I genuinely feel bad about what I did, I broke the trust placed in me as a host of BJSC and as a Buzzjack moderator. I'm sorry that it's taken me this long to truly own up to what I did, but I'm not the sort of person to pour my heart out, let alone on Buzzjack over something like this. I dealt with it incredibly poorly and again, I'm sorry for making light of what is a very serious breach of trust on my part and trying to drag other people into my mess. I don't deal with things particularly well in general and as hard as it may be to believe I'm not perfect and I do try and make a joke of things, sometimes that's my best way of addressing things. I'm still young so I'm always going to make mistakes, sadly this mistake was something in deeply disappointed in and something I will never think about doing again

 

Basically y'all know what happened, I never bullied anyone and being accused of doing such a thing is disheartening, I never did it with anybody saying no but that doesn't excuse for the fact that I still tried to make the contest as interesting as possible, up until the final votes I had mulgracia down as a winner but again that's no excuse. I really f***ed up. I was greedy and thought nobody would find out. I realise that I took the trust you placed in me for granted, I used my friendship with another member for my own gain and made a mockery of BJSC in the process. Joe isn't at fault here, I abused his trust in me too for my own gain. I'm especially sorry to him, for dragging him into this mess.

 

This was a one off event though. I got greedy and thought I was invincible with so much BJSC success over the summer. Nothing else I have added up for The Lounge or BJSC has been impacted at all. Everyone can confirm that from their BJSC votes in other months and other mods have added up the rate too.

 

A ban from the contest is fair, but asking for me to be removed as Lounge Mod is too much. I put so much into it, I love the lounge, I love Buzzjack and I really don't think one mistake, however big, should take away from all the good I feel I've done over the last few years. That's why I'm writing this apology, I want you all to understand that I realise the severity of what I've done and how badly I f***ed up, but also that my dedication and hard work won't change and I hope this can be kept separate from everything else on Buzzjack.

 

I can't even describe how difficult that was for me to write and is arguably the most difficult thing I've ever written (ive written so much reports that I have no clue about) but I do care about a lot of members on the site and do care for the site in general, I accept a lot of you will look at me differently but I'll ensure I put the time and effort into making things right with y'all.

 

 

The bit I have bolded... Is there anyone else involved in this as is implied by this. Or is it just badly worded

Well...Bal did always play under the name Jamie whenever we went on Mario Kart :thinking:

 

Haha he is most definitely Not the Jamie I was talking about. Thanks for bring a smile to My Face :)

Oh, that's horrible. Sorry to hear that James, hope you are both able to work through this. :(

 

Lee - I agree that you have contributed a huge amount to reviving the lounge on this forum and it would be a massive shame to lose you over something that was a silly heat-of-the-moment mistake. I think we can all move on, and sorry for the calling you pathetic yesterday - I've been working long hours recently and am a tired emotional wreck right now.

Putting my two cents in, I agree with Jake regarding Lee losing his position as a Lounge mod, he has shown that he lets his ego take over and will stoop to low

levels to get what he wants already, there's nothing to suggest that he won't do it again. His apology only came after days of him acting like he had done nothing wrong despite there being evidence he had. He only decided to feel bad when his position in the Lounge, a.k.a the thing that gives his ego the most attention came into quesiton.

 

At the end of the day, he was given power and betrayed the trust put in him.

this isn't dragging lee's name at all. all i've done is summed up the actual facts. this is pretty much THE worst thing you can do in a position of power. it's entirely wrong for him to remain in his position. you can show remorse DAYS after when finally pushed into a corner and when someone starts questioning your position but that isn't enough and it isn't correct. iz and john i love you both but your displaying total cronyism here and that isn't good for the lounge or our community as a whole.

 

at the end of the day, he still did what he did, apologising days later doesn't make it okay. for him to remain in charge of contents on this site whilst serving a SIX MONTH BAN in our biggest competition is utterly absurd and not how life works. if you let him stay in his position having done something as severe as this then it makes you just as rotten. coupled with past evidence being brought up and the shady goings on in the rate it'd be UTTERLY DEPLORABLE for him to continue in the same position.

 

and this isn't personal to lee, i'd be saying the same if it were lew, chris, bre, jade or anyone else on this site. sometimes the crime REALLY is that bad and here i can't think of a much worse thing you could do on bj. how can anyone trust or believe in the process with it under his watch?

In all honesty,

 

I did struggle to apoligise at first, not because I never regretted my actions but just because that's me in real life, I was instantly disappointed and filled with remourse. Just because I try and laugh doesn't mean that I'm not being serious. I've been feeling like shit regarding this situation for days now and I accept it's my own fault and I don't blame people for being disappointed. I get incredibly nervous at times (in real life also) and this was one of the instances and I know I should have said sorry immediatley but I find some situations difficult and at times I do try and make a joke about awful situations.

 

I just turned 22 years old and I'm not perfect and I'm always going to make mistakes in life but it's how you recover from your mistakes that determines who you are and that's something I intend on doing.

 

I'm not going to continue to repeat myself because I'm so emotionally exhausted with everything so this will be my last post in this topic, I can't apoligise enough for what happened and I accept that I was completely in the wrong but I care about this site and building a community (which I have done) and it's something I will continue doing regardless.

I'm not sure we should turn this into an opportunity to become a Lounge Mod.

i nominate seven as the replacement