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7th: Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story series), 59 Points

 

Voters: HarryEzra (3rd), Johnkm, HausofKubrick (6th), Jonjo (10th)

 

One of Pixar's originals now and still a classic. Buzz Lightyear is an advanced (at the time definitely) space toy that Andy is brought, who is at first under the illusion he is actually a spaceman in an alien world rather than a 'child's play thing'. He finds himself in a rivalry with Woody, whose place he threatens as Andy's favourite toy and head of his toys in their secret life. When Woody plan to get rid of him goes a bit awry, he is forced to work together with Woody and realise his true place in the world, as a protector of not the galaxy but those close to him, and in the sequels, his role is just as prominent as co-leader of the toys and instrumental in action and suffering mix ups in more ways than one in the sequels. Him & Woody is for my money one of the most interesting dynamics of two alpha males in recent film, lower than Woody here but he remains quotable to this day and through to infinity and beyond.

 

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6th: Joy (Inside Out), 66 Points

 

Voters: Iz (1st), jsilv, HausofKubrick (5th), Johnkm (7th)

 

I was interested to see who would be higher out of Joy & Sadness as they were quite neck and neck throughout, but I guess we were all in a melancholy mood as Joy is second here. Joy is the ringleader of Riley's emotions and does not understand anything other than pure happiness, though she goes on a path of rediscovery through Riley's head and realises that sometimes, being happy isn't always the best thing. We all love feeling joy and happiness, whatever the occasion and that is brought to life quite brilliantly here with the voicework of Amy Poehler to create a character you can't not love.

 

 

5th: Edna Mode (The Incredibles), 67 Points

 

Voters: Johnkm (2nd), Iz (3rd), Chez Wombat, Joe (6th)

 

I feel nothing else needs to be said here, the iconically quotable and knowledgebale superhero costume creator who clearly was wise beyond her years ;o (maybe Madonna should've taken her advice before FALLING :rofl:). Her stubbornness, blunt and eccentric manner makes her an instantly memorable character despite her VERY limited screen time and we all agree clearly as she is the highest character from that film ahead of all the main superheroes! Dahhhling *.*

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Thank god Sadness beat Joy, a much more interesting and complex character and easily one of Pixar's greats. Phyllis Smith does a fantastic job of voicing her.
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4th: Sadness (Inside Out), 80 Points

 

Voters: Joe (1st), Chez Wombat (4th), Jonjo (5th), HausofKubrick (7th), Iz (8th)

 

So your favourite emotion is Sadness, you bunch of misery guts ;o No, srsly, a well deserved win in that matter. Sadness is the overlooked emotion for Riley if mainly because of Joy just not understanding her and refusing to let her get control of Riley. When she inadvertantly misplaces Riley's core memories, her and Joy must journey throughout before both herself and Joy realise that Sadness is a lot more important than they may think. I do prefer Sadness as she represents the deeper and more complex side of every personality and goes on a journey in the film from, well, a sad sack to someone that is truly instrumental to saving Riley. As the film shows, this side of us is needed to function properly and open up. Personally I relate to her dour pessimism and melancholic ways a lot more, I am intrigued if people thought that or vice versa with Joy when putting one ahead of the other. Either way, again put to perfect light by Pixar and Phyllis Smith, Sadness may not be something we enjoy feeling, but if a film showed how important that is to us, it's this one.

 

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3rd: Woody (Toy Story series), 86 Points

 

Voters: Chez Wombat, HausofKubrick (1st), Joe (4th), Ultraviolence1989 (6th), Jonjo (7th)

 

Here he is, the original sheriff and top dog of both Toy Story and Pixar AS A WHOLE and for my money, who should've rightfully been the winner in this poll, but 3rd is fine too. The ringleader of Andy's toys and his favourite toy until Buzz arrives and threatens his dominance, a clear dominant kind and one that doesn't take any nonsense but with a deep sense of responsibility to match, like I said with Buzz, seeing these two alpha males fight is an extremely interesting on screen chemistry and their dynamic is definitely one of the highlights of the first film. The sequels see him take more roles of exploring new territories including being kidnapped and learning his own lesson of how being loved as a toy beats being admired as an artefact and taking his position as the toys' ring leader as well as Andy's spiritual father figure and of course, his friend and partner. Voiced masterfully by Tom Hanks and still the original 'new age' masculine Pixar hero that distinguised them from the meek female princess protagonists that Disney offered and was seen in many films afterwards, Woody remains one of Pixar's very best creations to this day.

 

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SO, we have a final 2 but who is it? :o You may be able to tell by going back through the thread

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2nd: WALL-E (WALL-E), 108 Points

 

Voters: Jonjo, Ultraviolence1989 (1st), Chez Wombat, Joe (2nd), HausofKubrick (3rd), HarryEzra (9th)

 

In WALL-E, Pixar formed a one of the most unlikely and excellent heroes they've ever made and I'm very glad this was reflected here. WALL-E (standing for Waste Allocation Load Lifter - Earth class) is a quiet robot who is one of the last life forms on an uninhabited Earth as he does his job blissfully unaware until he eventually discovers life in a growing plant, he holds this plant dear and uses it to symbolise his growing passion for someone else and to be happy (like the characters in many old movies he sees in his 'home'), and he finds this in EVE, a life scanning robot who he grows attached to, even learning to say her name and fly to the mothership to save his love and somewhat inadvertantly saving the whole planet in the process. WALL-E's inability to talk at all is undeniably part of his charm, less is more and while he may be a machine, his personality shines through as a quiet yet curious and ambitious droid who just longs to do right and make someone happy, even if that is to a fault and however clumsy he may be, he embodies what a great, likeable protagonist, machine or not, should be and is one of the most endearing characters Disney have ever done and a worthy runner up here.

 

 

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1st: Dory (Finding Nemo), 136 Points

 

Voters: jsilv, HarryEzra (1st), Johnkm, Jonjo, Chez Wombat, Joe (3rd), Ultraviolence1989, Iz (9th)

 

This was certain right from the start and indeed she was in everyone's top 10 except Haus' (nor even top 13 in there, sabotage? ;o). Dory is the Regal Blue Tang with short term memory loss whose background is never really explained (but it looks like the upcoming sequel will help us with that), but she runs into Marlin frantically and he quickly discovers she has short term memory loss, yet through one situation after another, she sticks with him in his quest to find his son and proves part of what spurs Marlin on to keep going and becomes part of their 'family' in the end, it's really quite impossible to love her, voiced with a genius casting choice of Ellen Degeneres, Dory is an eccentric figure who shows various sides to her whether it's having a laugh with sharks, bouncing off jellyfish, remembering 'P Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney' or speaking whale. I think for the most part she represents the excitable child in all of us and her ultimate desire to help and ditzy ways are what endeared pretty much a whole generation to her and we were all cheering her on when she remembered something correctly. Doubtless someone that could be explored a lot further in Finding Dory, but even with just one film, she is Buzzjack's favourite Pixar character!

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Full Character Results:

 

01. Dory (Finding Nemo) 136

02. WALL-E (WALL-E) 108

03. Woody (Toy Story series) 86

04. Sadness (Inside Out) 80

05. Edna Mode (The Incredibles) 67

06. Joy (Inside Out) 66

07. Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story series) 59

08. Nemo (Finding Nemo) 57

09. Jessie (Toy Story 2/3) 54

10. Rex (Toy Story series) 49

11. Mike (Monsters Inc./University) 36 (highest 7th)

12. Mr Potato Head (Toy Story series) 36

13. Eve (WALL-E) 33

14. Remy (Ratatouille) 30 (highest 3rd)

15. Ham (Toy Story series) 30

16. Elastigirl (The Incredibles) 29

17. Dug (Up) 24

= Violet (The Incredibles) 24

19. Kevin (Up) 23

20. Roz (Monsters Inc) 20

21. Lightning McQueen (Cars) 19

= Aliens (Toy Story series) 19

= Bullseye (Toy Story 2/3) 19

= Carl Friederickson (Up) 19

25. Disgust (Inside Out) 17

= Jack Jack (The Incredibles) 17

= Stinky Pete (Toy Story 2) 17

= Bruce (Finding Nemo) 17

29. Mater (Cars) 16

= Hopper (A Bug's Life) 16

= Heimlich (A Bug's Life) 16

= Flik (A Bug's Life) 16

33. Dash (The Incredibles) 15

34. Slinky Dog (Toy Story series) 14

= Boo (Monsters Inc.) 14

36. Crush (Finding Nemo) 13

= Mr Waternoose (Monsters Inc.) 13

= Anger (Inside Out) 13

39. Merida (Brave) 12

= Zurg (Toy Story 2) 12

= Sulley (Monsters Inc./University) 12

42. Fear (Inside Out) 11

= Princess Atta (A Bug's Life) 11

 

Sorry that took so long, just various things happening coupled with me forgetting all about this etc.! The films will start next week (If just cos these write ups will take a bit of time, and I have an interview I should be preparing for :x), but they hopefully will not take as long (or at least before Finding Dory comes out :heehee:), will Finding Nemo repeat it's feat here? ;o

 

ALSO, if anyone wants to do a commentary for any of the films, that's fine, just send it my way! (Ideally Cars 2 & The Good Dinosaur as I've not seen those yet :ph34r: ), a paragraph will do, it would be nice to get other's thoughts on the films and save me writing words upon words of waffle! :magic:

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Ah, good winner. I guess it might be sacrilege, but I found it hard to narrow down characters I'd say I felt I really liked as strong characters across the movies so ended up going for those who have funny scenes for the most part - Joy and Carl stand out for Pixar as being good protagonists that specifically aren't 'unconfident/jumpy male bumblers' which is something that does get a little old.

 

Pixar's strengths tend to lie in the good feelings that are driving the story rather than having good characters I find. Though Inside Out with the Joy/Sadness duality is at least an attempt to properly explore characters, even if they have to literally make them emotions.

That top 5 is fantastic. Can't fault it in the slightest. Wall E is so cleverly done. I still want one.

'Wall-E' is so amazing and as Joe said, so well done and cared for. He has such warmth and a HUGE presence considering he's just a machine! The film is one of the most beautiful films I have ever seen. :wub:

 

And then we have Dory <3 Such a classic character! Even if her new film goes the way of 'Monster's University', I don't think it'll taint her character much/if at all!

 

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Such a great countdown and I'm ready for the "proper" results *.*

WALL-E is the cutest <3

 

Expected Dory to win, I just hope Finding Nemo doesn't win the film rate again, as good as it is (and it is mind-blowingly amazing and lovable) there are at least 3 other films I'd put ahead of it :(

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16. Cars 2 (2011) - 4.636363636


Zooming: 8.5 (Ultraviolence1989), 7.5 (Josh)
Stalling: 1 (princess_lotti), 2 (Dandy*)


Rotten Tomatoes score: 39%
IMDb score: 6.3/10


Plot Summary: Star race car Lightning McQueen and his pal Mater head overseas to compete in the World Grand Prix race. But the road to the championship becomes rocky as Mater gets caught up in an intriguing adventure of his own: International espionage.

My thoughts: So yeah, let's get the obvious out of the way. A sequel to a film that really wasn't that good in the first place wasn't something anyone wanted and sure enough though it's box office returns were very solid, the critical reception was lukewarm and it is the worst received Pixar film going by Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb. It finished last in the last Pixar rate and finishes last here as well. There's not much to say (and limited seeing as I haven't and have no interest in seeing it), except it definitely represented a low point in Pixar's standing and one of the problems of them being acquired by Disney in that it showed their desire for commercial revenue and merchandising opportunities - and if the original Cars was good for something, it was definitely good for that, so why not do it again? It is a somewhat corporate mindset, that we'd seem to gather Pixar just had a bit more heart than that going by their constantly different movies and lack of sequels unless they were needed. It was also somewhat a rushed project, initially stated for 2012 but pushed forward a year and had the director sacked halfway through (at least according to IMDb), which sort of emphasises this point furthermore.

If anyone wants to actually comment on the film itself and insert any choice quotes/scenes feel free as I'm unable to do that currently!

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15. Cars (2006) - 5.96875


Zooming: 9 (Emily Haines), 8 (Jonjo)
Stalling: 4 (Ultraviolence1989, Dandy*, bipolar angel), 5 (princess_lotti, Froot, Lee Wallace)


Rotten Tomatoes: 74%
IMDb: 7.2/10


Plot Summary: While traveling to California for the dispute of the final race of the Piston Cup against The King and Chick Hicks, the famous Lightning McQueen accidentally damages the road of the small town Radiator Springs and is sentenced to repair it. Lightning McQueen has to work hard and finds friendship and love in the simple locals, changing its values during his stay in the small town and becoming a true winner.

My thoughts: So Buzzjack still doesn't like Cars, shock horror. But it's still very much in the vein of public opinion here as the Cars franchise just hasn't captured the imagination of the public in the same way as traditional Pixar films - Honestly, it's not all that surprising as personally, Cars in general seem a bit of an acquired taste rather than something universal and so a movie about them would have a typical audience in mind, thus wouldn't be as widely appealing. And there are a lot of very cool racing cars and variety of vehicles here for many pre-teen boys and beyond to enjoy and some snazzy voice work from Owen Wilson as Lightning (and Michael Keaton as Chick Hicks who I actually never realised was in it! :o). The old fashioned American setting is also quite...nostalgic if nothing else. It also showed Pixar can tackle the sports genre, which is not often prevalent in animated films.

However the story itself is just a bit flat and seen it all before, and you can predict the way it will head just by looking at the plot summary honestly, it doesn't really help that the characters aren't especially likeable - Lightning is your classic uber masculine hotshot who learns to love, but he's still a little bit hard to root for even if he does change his ways, and in troubling cases, representative of native stereotypes in the form of Mater and some of the cars at Radiator Springs. I wouldn't mind so much if these qualities were seen in a Dreamworks film, but seeing them on Pixar (especially when this film came off the back of the monster (lol) run of Monsters Inc/Finding Nemo/The Incredibles), it was just a little disappointing.

Still, it was a success and spawned a sequel with a further one in production and made over $1 billion in toys and merchandise, a record for Pixar so it has it's fanbase...but it's not on Buzzjack as we say bai to the Car series.

Choice scenes:

- The heartwarming scene when Lightning chooses to go back and help Doc rather than win the race is ofc. an awww moment.
- The tractor tipping scene is one of the few parts of the film where I laughed and was quite inspired, as was the Radiator Springs pit stop crew.

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Nothing like some surprise midnight results, continuing soon ;o

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Cars isn't that bad :( the sequel maybe but not the original! Also I feel averages are going to be SO HIGH in this rate if the second lowest and widely unliked one is already on a 6 average... Brave out soon please.
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I can reveal there is just three other films on a 6 average! :o Here's the first of 'em~

 

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14. The Good Dinosaur (2015) - 6.444444444

 

Dominant Reptiles: 10 (Ultraviolence1989), 7 (Josh, Jonjo, Johnkm, Chez Wombat)

Extinct: 4 (Dandy*), 5 (Joe, HausofKubrick)

 

Rotten Tomatoes: 76%

IMDb: 6.8/10

 

Plot Summary: The Good Dinosaur" asks the question: What if the asteroid that forever changed life on Earth missed the planet completely and giant dinosaurs never became extinct? In this epic journey into the world of dinosaurs, an Apatosaurus named Arlo makes an unlikely human friend. While traveling through a harsh and mysterious landscape, Arlo learns the power of confronting his fears and discovers what he is truly capable of.

 

My thoughts: I watched this recently if just so I was a bit more informed and to make be up to date to Pixar, I retrospectively rated it a 7, which didn't significantly improve it's average, indeed this was met with lukewarm marks all the way through except from the 10 from UV, and almost finished below Cars! The fact it's only six months old probably didn't help, but it's a testement to it's limited impact that it lands at the bottom here.

 

My thought basically seemed to fit with the general critical consensus, in that it was good but not great. The story of two different species/natural enemies bonding and going on a 'journey' has been done to death and indeed from reading the summary, you can pretty much tell how all of it's going to turn out, in fact, you can see the specific elements coming almost instantly, many of which it shares with The Lion King (spoilered as it's recent~

Dead parents? Check, enemies become friends? Check, coward learns courage and saves the day? check, both find honour in family at the end? check, it really is quite a cliche checklist

). When I saw the teasers for this film, I expected a bit more with regards to the world of dinosaurs and humans, but we didn't ultimately see much of it and it was confined to Arlo's journey, I actually saw little need for the scientific explanation that the meteor didn't happen as it didn't really alter the plot (I know humans weren't actually alive when dinosaurs were so points for that, but that doesn't stop Ice Age...). There was a lot of potential that was unfortunately wasted.

 

However, I will say some positives as various moments did still give me the feels like most Pixar movies do - the parting of Arlo and Spot (I want one <3) was adorable and I even had tears welling, the animation was simply stunning, everything looked so lifelike, it seemed like it was filmed live more than filmed via animation which is impressive for a prehistoric world, certain sequences which were amazing in particular was the fireflies scene and the storms, especially when they were cruising down the waterfall, if anything Arlo looked a bit basic in comparison to what was around him. And I definitely want a spin off movie for Forrest Woodbush and Debbie. If anything I did find the supporting characters better than Arlo, who did always come across as a bit whiny, I blame the irritating voice. Kudos as well for not making tyrannosaurus' the villains, that's one tired trope they avoided.

 

Overall, a solid film, and better than Disney's first attempt at a Dinosaur movie back in 2000, but one can't help but think had it not come straight after Inside Out and had a bit more time devoted to it, it could've been something very special other than something that will likely be with the Cars franchise in Pixar's least memorable films.

 

Choice scenes:

- The fireflies scene, as mentioned, was incredible. One of the many examples of excellent animation in the film

- When Arlo and Spot are using a sand circle of sticks to represent their families. This scene was perfect and very well done one of the glimmers of brilliance in the movie.

 

Choice quotes:

 

Forrest Woodbush: This is Fury! He protects me from the creatures that crawl in the night. This is Destructor! She protects me from mosquitoes. This is Dreamcrusher! He protects me from having unrealistic goals. And this is Debbie. Yes, we need him.

 

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Really didn't enjoy Cars 2, in fact I didn't even manage to finish watching it! :lol: Not hugely fussed about the original going out so early either. I've never actually seen The Good Dinosaur but I do think I need to give it a watch! :o
Oh come on. Cars is far from Pixar's best but it's at least better than Brave and Little Dinosaur.
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13. Ratatouille (2007) - 6.888888889


Delicious: 10 (princess_lotti), 9 (Josh, HausofKubrick)
Ew, rats!: 1 (Ultraviolence1989), 2 (bipolar angel)


Rotten Tomatoes: 96%
IMDb: 8.0/10


Plot Summary: A rat named Remy dreams of becoming a great French chef despite his family's wishes and the obvious problem of being a rat in a decidedly rodent-phobic profession. When fate places Remy in the sewers of Paris, he finds himself ideally situated beneath a restaurant made famous by his culinary hero, Auguste Gusteau. Despite the apparent dangers of being an unlikely - and certainly unwanted - visitor in the iamspamspamamiof a fine French restaurant, Remy's passion for cooking soon sets into motion a hilarious and exciting rat race that turns the culinary world of Paris upside down.

My thoughts: Ratatouille finishes very low here, despite the fact that every voter rated it which isn't true for some films above it, and despite it's stance as generally very critically well received, it seems it's not quite that way here. I guess the main problem is that again in this supreme back catalogue of films and considering it preceded the mighty trio of WALL-E, Up & Toy Story 3, it's often forgotten. I thought that and don't have much memory of it, but I rewatched it recently and it is actually a commendable film and one that probably deserved to be a bit higher.

I suppose what works in both it's favour and perhaps counts against it, is it's rather...sophisticated. It's setting in posh Paris counts to this and also the characters and humour are generally a lot more upper tier than standard animated films. The story itself has a lot of layers to it - at the heart of it of course is Remy's journey to becoming a chef but intertwined is his relationship with his family & Linguini and Linguini's journey from whimpering garbage boy to commanding chef, as well as the heritage of Gusteau's restaurant raising the stakes, it even isn't afraid to get some proper legal talk in there! So much so, it sometimes feels more like an adults film that happens to be animated, even if it is about an animal (even if the idea of rats in a iamspamspamamiis a grim one and certainly that final scene where Remy's family is all there eating the food is...while nice, just a little bit hard to swallow, it's to the films credit that it turns this on it's head and we're actually rooting for a rat in a iamspamspamami, and that's impressive, although arguably what the preceding films did better was to appeal equally to all ages.

I understand the indifference to an extent, but I still enjoyed the film and it is to be commended for a unique and out there premise in a way we wouldn't have suspected which definitely signified, even with Disney's acquisition and twelve years in at this point in their career, they were still willing to push boundaries and come up with original ideas for their films, it definitely has a firm place in Pixar's history as the film that paved the way, following the predictability of Cars, for a more experimental and different Pixar in the latter half of the 2000s, more on those later~

Choice scenes:

- Anton Ego (excellently voiced by Peter O'Toole) having a flashback to his younger years after tasting Remy's ratatouille, was very well done and an excellent way of automatically bringing a human aspect to a deceptive figure (and capturing the crux of critics in general!)
- Gusteau chasing Remy gives us some classic slapstick that still manages to be entertaining and some refreshing physical humour in the film.

Choice quotes:

Gusteau: [on the TV] You must be imaginative, strong-hearted. You must try things that may not work, and you must not let anyone define your limits because of where you come from. Your only limit is your soul. What I say is true - anyone can cook... but only the fearless can be great.

(what else than the quote that inspired the subtitle?)

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