I dont get where you get those Flip & Fill comparisons whatsoever. Neither of those sound like trance or even trance-pop.

Edited October 20, 20168 yr by Euphorique

I dont get where you get those Flip & Fill comparisons whatsoever. Neither of those sound like trance or even trance-pop.

 

I didn't say they were trancepop but they contained elements of it in the production. Also this one

 

 

I think the verses of Lightning by the Wanted have elements of trancepop in the background and that Gold Forever sounds like very watered down trancepop in places too.

Edited October 20, 20168 yr by TheSnake

The instrumental of the Gold Forever track by The Wanted I would consider to be trancepop in its entirety, the trancey sad sounding synths at the start, the long piano buildup and then the big synths in the chorus. It sounds similar to DJ Sammy style production, albeit watered down and more poppy

.

 

I still think the end of the LMFAO Champagne Showers track after 5:00 is either trance or progressive house, it certainly isn't like most generic EDM tracks in that it is focused on the 'drop'.

 

But the Opera Song (Brave New World) was the beginining of the end for true trance that isn't mixed with pop, I would agree.

Edited October 21, 20168 yr by TheSnake

with 90s superstar DJ Judge Jules (DJ Mag #1 1995)

 

It was sad when Judge Jules left Radio 1, there has not really been any new trance being played on Radio 1 since.

Kira - I'll Be Your Angel

 

http://www.dancevibes.be/images/kira/kira.jpg

 

Date 1st March 2003

1 Week

Official Chart Run 9-15-25-41-73-x (5 weeks)

 

 

Another big eurotrance tune from Belgium this time, with (unusually for trance) some real instrumentation in it seemingly (in the form of electric guitar in the breakdown), although it is hard to tell in dance music, whether it is real instruments or keyboard settings. It comes from Belgian singing contest star (she won the Belgium edition of Stars In Their Eyes at 13 and was also a finalist in the Belgian edition of Popstars (which was apparently for solo acts rather than groups unlike the UK version). Kira was also a model at the time, having come runner up in Miss Belgium 2000.

 

Kira provides the vocals for the track, the uncredited producers are Bart Grinaert and the brothers Bert and Maarten Wilmaers, who amongst other things are known for doing a remix of Sash's Mysterious Times. I'll be Your Angel reached number 9 (which led to her performing the track on Top Of The Pops) and in Belgium it reached number 15. In the Uk it was released on NuLife, the trance label which also released Ian van Dahl's singles. The song was also released in Australia, the United States and Spain, and it didn't make top 40 in Australia or Spain, or top 100 in the US.

 

I think it must have the lowest number of top 100 weeks in the UK for any dance number 1 in our thread so far, with only 5 weeks. It will be interesting to see if any other song has a lower number of weeks as we go through the thread.

 

Kira didn't have any further UK hits after this, making this another dance one hit wonder of the 00s.

 

I think I vaguely remember this track being played along with a few other dance songs in an ice rink when I was younger.

Would this be the last trance song to make the charts (iirc this did better than the original on itunes)

 

 

I would seriously say Lady Gaga's Perfect Illusion is the most trancey song in the charts recently :lol: , a lot of buildups and even some trancey synths in it (and none of the ubiquitous drops that seem to be in every dance pop song now).

Edited October 21, 20168 yr by TheSnake

This is such a great tune, number 33 on the week that Kira was dance number 1. Unlike the trancepop covers it uses the original vocal, so it is a bit like the mid 00s 80s remixes.

 

Edited October 22, 20168 yr by TheSnake

New to this thread - will be following it! I DJ once a week at a local bar and the first half of my night is dedicated primarily to dance classics to keep the BPM up before I drop the prime time stuff.

 

Songs from my sets (regulars in bold) from those so far include:

 

Artful Dodger (feat. Craig David) - Re-Rewind The Crowd Say Bo Selecta

Artful Dodger & Romina Johnson - Movin' Too Fast

Sweet Female Attitude - Flowers (Sunship Mix)

Fragma (feat. Coco Star) - Toca's Miracle

Madison Avenue - Don't Call Me Baby

Sonique - It Feels So Good

Darude - Sandstorm

Artful Dodger & Robbie Craig (feat. Craig David) - Woman Trouble

Bomfunk MC's - Freestyler

Spiller (feat. Sophie Ellis-Bextor) - Groovejet (If This Ain't Love)

Modjo - Lady (Hear Me Tonight)

Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400 (DJ Gius Remix)

Rui Da Silva (feat. Cassandra) - Touch Me

Chocolate Puma - I Wanna Be U

M&S presents The Girl Next Door - Salsoul Nugget (If U Wanna)

DJ Pied Piper and the Masters of Ceremonies - Do You Really Like It?

Mis-Teeq - All I Want (Sunship Mix)

Roger Sanchez - Another Chance

Ian Van Dahl (feat. Marsha) - Castles In The Sky

The Supermen Lovers (feat. Mani Hoffman) - Starlight

iiO - Rapture

Riva (feat. Dannii Minogue) - Who Do You Love Now? (Stringer)

Daniel Bedingfield - Gotta Get Thru This (D'n'D Mix)

Lasgo - Something

Shy FX & T Power (feat. Di) - Shake Ur Body

Shakedown (feat. Terra Deva) - At Night

Elvis vs. JXL - A Little Less Conversation

Scooter - The Logical Song

Mad'house - Like A Prayer

DJ Sammy and Yanou (feat. Do) - Heaven

Jaimeson (feat. Angel Blu) - True

 

That's as far as the front page lists up to. Currently going through a phase of more mid 00s stuff like the 80s throwforward hits, Fedde Le Grand, Bodyrox, Booty Luv, Freemasons, Shapeshifters etc.

New to this thread - will be following it! I DJ once a week at a local bar and the first half of my night is dedicated primarily to dance classics to keep the BPM up before I drop the prime time stuff.

 

Songs from my sets (regulars in bold) from those so far include:

 

Artful Dodger (feat. Craig David) - Re-Rewind The Crowd Say Bo Selecta

Artful Dodger & Romina Johnson - Movin' Too Fast

Sweet Female Attitude - Flowers (Sunship Mix)

Fragma (feat. Coco Star) - Toca's Miracle

Madison Avenue - Don't Call Me Baby

Sonique - It Feels So Good

Darude - Sandstorm

Artful Dodger & Robbie Craig (feat. Craig David) - Woman Trouble

Bomfunk MC's - Freestyler

Spiller (feat. Sophie Ellis-Bextor) - Groovejet (If This Ain't Love)

Modjo - Lady (Hear Me Tonight)

Zombie Nation - Kernkraft 400 (DJ Gius Remix)

Rui Da Silva (feat. Cassandra) - Touch Me

Chocolate Puma - I Wanna Be U

M&S presents The Girl Next Door - Salsoul Nugget (If U Wanna)

DJ Pied Piper and the Masters of Ceremonies - Do You Really Like It?

Mis-Teeq - All I Want (Sunship Mix)

Roger Sanchez - Another Chance

Ian Van Dahl (feat. Marsha) - Castles In The Sky

The Supermen Lovers (feat. Mani Hoffman) - Starlight

iiO - Rapture

Riva (feat. Dannii Minogue) - Who Do You Love Now? (Stringer)

Daniel Bedingfield - Gotta Get Thru This (D'n'D Mix)

Lasgo - Something

Shy FX & T Power (feat. Di) - Shake Ur Body

Shakedown (feat. Terra Deva) - At Night

Elvis vs. JXL - A Little Less Conversation

Scooter - The Logical Song

Mad'house - Like A Prayer

DJ Sammy and Yanou (feat. Do) - Heaven

Jaimeson (feat. Angel Blu) - True

 

That's as far as the front page lists up to. Currently going through a phase of more mid 00s stuff like the 80s throwforward hits, Fedde Le Grand, Bodyrox, Booty Luv, Freemasons, Shapeshifters etc.

 

Not really a fan of Fedde or Bodyrox, that's where dance went downhill I think. But 2000 up to near end of 2006 when electro took over are fantastic.

 

Yes the 80s dance covers and remixes that kind of defined the late early 00s and the mid 00s are starting to come now, our next song on the thread which I will post tomorrow will be an 80s cover.

 

I have a feeling I know which one you're on about ;) I don't know how to post a spoiler tag though to write it down haha.

I have a feeling I know which one you're on about ;) I don't know how to post a spoiler tag though to write it down haha.

 

Yes it wouldn't be my favourite though.

 

I really like the disco influenced funky house records from 2004 to 2006 like the ones by

Soul Central, Shapeshifters, Freemasons, Praise Cats, Joey Negro etc.

so i am looking forward to seeing some of those.

 

Forgot about I'll Be Your Angel until recently, it's an awesome slice of trancepop - that background melody is gloriously catchy! Pleasantly surprised it went top ten, heard it a fair bit around that time.

 

Hard To Say I'm Sorry is a JAM, the fact that it only reached #33 is almost insulting. Like a ton of trancepop hits around this time, it's based on an old 90s happy hardcore tune (Highlander - Hold Me Now) that sampled the same 80s Chicago original, and has the distinction of being the first happy hardcore track I ever remember hearing - absolutely fell in love with the genre immediately!

 

The

of the Aquagen version is pretty good too, I'll give them that - link goes to the full mix but a shorter one's available on Clubland II.

I am guessing the Queen and Vanguard one (Flash) was based on a happy hardcore record too?

I am guessing the Queen and Vanguard one (Flash) was based on a happy hardcore record too?

Don't think so - from what I know that started out as a bootleg mix by a couple of German DJs that eventually got a commercial release with Queen's approval.

 

Bit of background first for those who don't know (and I'm not an expert so correct me if I'm talking nonsense) - when the rave scene 'split' in 1993-94 into happy hardcore and jungle, the latter ended up getting much more media hype and commercial chart success thanks to its popularity in London and the south of England, whereas happy hardcore suffered despite doing much better in Scotland and the north. Jungle was huge around the summer of 1994 and into '95 - here is a great article from The Independent about it from the time - but radio and the media began turning its back on it after various sensational stories about crime-ridden clubs and violence related to the sound - that and M-Beat/General Levy's 'Incredible' going top ten in late 1994 and General Levy quickly getting a huge ego and going around telling everyone "I run jungle!" or something, which annoyed a ton of people at the time. So jungle evolved, got a new name - "drum & bass" - and by the late 90s it was regularly making the UK charts, and despite the sound being somewhat commercialised and watered down since remains a big dance genre today.

 

Happy hardcore on the other hand had a very brief flurry of chart success around 1995-96 - its peak when Technohead's 'I Wanna Be A Hippy' shot up to #6 - but faded soon after, despite a series of hugely hit-potential tracks circulating the clubs that kept the fast breakbeats and heavy bass but with extremely poppy vocal tracks over the top - in theory the perfect dance/pop crossover records, but they were never pushed or given the attention they deserved, so despite being major club favourites in the late 1990s never ended up charting.

 

Cut to 2002. Flip & Fill cover 1997's 'Shooting Star' by Bang, slow it down and turn it into trance-pop and score a massive #2 hit with it, causing everyone to hurriedly hunt down all those hardcore anthems from a few years earlier and give them the same treatment! In fairness, usually the original artists were involved in some way and would have approved the remakes. All of the below hits were originally happy hardcore floorfillers of the late 1990s, all of which slowed down and remade into top 40 hits during 2002 to 2004:

 

* Flip & Fill - Shooting Star (original by Bang)

* Flip & Fill - Field of Dreams (original by Force & Styles)

* Flip & Fill - Discoland (original by Tiny Tot)

* Aquagen - Hard to Say I'm Sorry (original by Highlander, original original an early 80s power ballad by Chicago)

* Kelly Llorenna - Heart of Gold (original by Force & Styles)

*

Ultrabeat - Pretty Green Eyes (original by Force & Styles)

 

*

Ultrabeat - Feelin' Fine (original by Unique, a solo release by Darren Styles)

 

 

Interactive's 'Forever Young' (cover of the 80s Alphaville hit - not the Louisa Johnson song!) - charted top 40 twice, once as its happy hardcore original in 1996 (#28) and again as a trancepop remake in 2003 (#37). And as mentioned a few pages ago, Nakatomi's 'Children of the Night' was re-released in its original form in late 2002, and charted at #31 - no remix/remake needed - years after its first attempt in 1996 only made #149.

 

One more from 2006, this time with the original artist given equal credit:

 

* Ultrabeat vs Scott Brown - Elysium (originally a Scott Brown instrumental)

 

There's even more on the first few 'Clubland' albums that either didn't get released or failed to chart - Starsplash's 'Wonderful Days' on Clubland 1 (original by Charly Lownoise & Mental Theo), and The Force's 'Paradise & Dreams' on Clubland 4 (original by Force & Styles, Ultrabeat did a version later too).

 

Some of the remakes are pretty good but it does feel a shame that the originals never quite crossed over into the mainstream. (Darren) Styles would later score some big chart hits as part of Styles & Breeze though.

 

...ok, I'm going to bed :P

Would 2008's

Jumping All over The World

be the last happy hardcore song to make the charts.

 

 

Edited October 23, 20168 yr by TheSnake

I think Knife Party would be the last "hardcore" electro act to chart recently?

I think Knife Party would be the last "hardcore" electro act to chart recently?

 

Well there was Tremor by Martin Garrix and Like Mike and Dmitri Vegas.

Knife Party aren't hardcore, they just have a hard and heavy sound but most of their songs are electro house.

 

Besides, their only top 40 hit, Antidote, was actually a collaboration with Swedish House Mafia so it was naturally not as 'hard' as their own records.

Tremor is a good shout actually, though barely a hit!

 

It does come across like a slowed down hardstyle track, which is basically what big room house was but moreso for this song

Also no at Champagne Showers, ending or beginning. Its typical EDM

 

LMFAO might be in our thread near the end but with a far far inferior dance tune to Champagne Showers (imo).

 

The later LMFAO output is actually more interesting....there are some small similarities between the instrumental of Sorry For Party Rocking (before the horrible dubstep bit) and

Ferry Corsten's Rock Your Body Rock

.

Edited October 23, 20168 yr by TheSnake