They don't need a duets album they just need to concentrate on what made them great - Whilst I like lll and Wonderland they both feel like albums where they wanted to experiment with their sound rather than what made them famous and the sales reflect that.

 

Another Beautiful World type album please where 90% of the album could have been singles rather than linking up with Sigma and using electronic effects on their vocals.

Greatest Gits from Take That.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: Definately needs to be the name of the new Greatest Hits.

 

Just on the supposed Greatest Hits I'm not sure it'll be a sure fire success - the original GH sold over a million and the Ultimate Colelction has passed 2.7 million, they will be able to add of course all the hits since the comeback to the album but BW, TC and Progress sold so well that most people will have them especially as they are all so easily accessible through downloads and streaming which has essentially killed the GH market.

 

I'm not saying a GH wouldn't be a success for them but with dwindling interest in the band and close to 4 million sales for GH albums already without a killer lead single and promo they could end up with another fan base led release.

I agree Bond Bug. The problem with Wonderland is, it is a good album, it is solid, consistant and Giants does represent the style of the album. That said, its a generic sounding album in large and does not contain any music that stands the test of time, nor does it contain any stand out hits.

 

I am in two minds whether the guys are making music they actually enjoy or if they are trying to make music that they think could increase interest in them. If it is the latter they have got it very wrong. Listening to Wonderland and i would include Three aswell, it is hard to believe it the same band who released such classic songs such as Rule The World, Back For Good, Never Forget and Patience to name just a few.

 

The guys try new styles which is to be appluaded but along the way they have lost complete sight on what their fans want from them which is why the fans are turning to the old hits.

 

Thank you for your reply Pippa. I am very disappointed with their last few albums. I actually thought the Gary Barlow solo album was the best recent work. Maybe there is just too many other projects. The songs feel like maybe they didn't make the cut in previous albums. Yes, I agree they have experimented, but maybe they need to collaborate more to get back their groove.

 

I suspect they're partly biding their time for the 25th anniversary. If they release a seriously killer single with the inveitable new greatest hits collection then it could reignite interest again for a while, especially if Robbie is back in the fold, as something still doesn't feel quite right about them as a trio to many people.

 

If they're going to keep peddling albums out that are packed mostly with filler then they may as well give up after that as it will tarnish their legacy.

 

There are plenty of ways they could boost their profile again...a duets/collborations album perhaps? Like Tom Jones' Reload...another album with all five of them, or at least with Robbie, an album packed with soaring classic ballads like Rule The World - the quality would speak for itself then. But the likes of III and Wonderland are really not the way forward. III at least had one killer song in These Days, but - while I think it's an enjoyable album on the whole - Wonderland doesn't even have one.

 

Yes, duets is a good idea. They need a new dynamic. I am really a TT fan as a result of Gary Barlow's first solo album, but by the second album many songs were too MOR, boring, lacking originality. I feel the same is happening now with the three of them. They could do with some fresh blood.

They don't need a duets album they just need to concentrate on what made them great - Whilst I like lll and Wonderland they both feel like albums where they wanted to experiment with their sound rather than what made them famous and the sales reflect that.

 

Another Beautiful World type album please where 90% of the album could have been singles rather than linking up with Sigma and using electronic effects on their vocals.

 

I agree they don''t necessarily need to go the duets route, and a Beautiful World-type album would be a good step in the right direction, but I think that maybe they simply cannot recreate the magic anymore. Most very successful bands and singer/songwriters reach a peak of their creative talent that they are unable to recreate, in fact, nearly all of them. Maybe collaborations is the key for them to break out of their box.

 

I don't see anything wrong with wonderland or III. Both are my favourite TT albums. Unlike the earlier ones following post reform which include a lot of filler songs. III remains my favourite but Wonderland is still a strong album.

I don't see anything wrong with wonderland or III. Both are my favourite TT albums. Unlike the earlier ones following post reform which include a lot of filler songs. III remains my favourite but Wonderland is still a strong album.

My opinion as well ;)

I'd rank their post-comeback albums:

 

1. Beautiful World

2. Progress

3. The Circus

4. III

5. Wonderland

 

The first three would all be in my top 100 albums of all time though! Beautiful World and Progress are hard to compare but both fantastic in their own way. III and Wonderland are good but I was really blown away by the top three, whereas for me the other two are just solid pop albums. Nothing wrong with that but a comedown for me from the other albums that were packed full of highlights throughout.

Here is my ranking on the comeback album.

 

1. Progress

2. The Circus

3. Wonderland

4. III

5. Beautiful World (not counting Rule the World)

 

I like that they keep evolving and feel that the evolution is genuine. Apart from III where you can feel that they were not quite certain with the direction. Every albums feel like it's the step they want to take as a group. They are not for sure at this point aiming for the best selling album because like everybody said they can go back to do Beautiful World II if they want to sell more.

 

They may not gain a lot of casual buyers. You have to admit that all the people that give them, Adele or Ed Sheeran those huge sale are the type of people that buy 2-3 cds a year and not gonna be life-long devoted fans. By continuing to evolve, they will gain new, though small, devoted fans.

 

You don't stan for any artists just for the music. Usually, it's the side story that make you love them.

 

Grant it music does matter but that's personal preference. Different people like different kinds of music. You can't please everyone.

Edited April 12, 20178 yr by BadHabit

My Rankings of their albums would be

 

1. The Circus

2. Beautiful World

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

3. Progress

4. Three

5. Wonderland ( It has this position as it is very early days, i need time to see how i feel about songs in a few months time.

 

The top 2 is clear cut in this ranking, both are classic albums, wonderful songs, songs that sound great almost 10 years later.

 

The the other 3, each albums has songs i adore, The Flood and These Days for example are wonderful singles that i adore, Eight Letters is also a fabulous song from Progress. Progress, Three and Wonderland all have some great tracks, i think if i could take a few songs from each album and make one album from it we could have a very strong Take That album and it would be an album i would rate with Beautiful World and The Circus.

Number 5 in the latest midweek update on sales of 11.5, they have closed the sales gap on Drake to just 100 as he is on 11.6. It would be wonderful if they could overtake him and register a climb this week within the top 5.

Good to see them closing on #4, I reckon they'll nab it.

 

1-BW

2-Circus

3- Wonderland

4-Progress

5- III

 

As Pippa mentioned, the top 2 are some way on their own at the top. BW clinches it for me because none of us could have dreamt it would have been such a success.

 

Wonderland could change position over time, but I've really enjoyed listening to it from start to finish; particularly Giants and New Day.

 

III is a good album, and has a great single in These Days on it...however, it just feels a little rushed and fragmented when I listen to it now. Ironic really, with the 4 year gap, but part of me views it like it was a: 'it's been 4 years, we need to release something, anything' moment...

Edited April 12, 20178 yr by jay727

For me, the ranking would go like this:

III

BW

Wonderland

The Circus

Progress

 

I still believe III was their most mature album.

Wonderland, in many ways, reminds me of The Circus.

 

 

Wonderland seems to secure the sound they were searching for when making Three. That said, while enjoyable, there is a large part of me that wishes they didn't search for the sound as it's the style of music that ends up forgotten which is something Take That are not known for.

Spot on Pippa, if III was given a bit more time, it probably would have become Wonderland in terms of sound.

 

Interestingly, both III and Wonderland don't have a clear, stand out second single...in some cases you could say the same about Progress.

I think the problem with Wonderland is, unlike III, it doesn't have a real single material. And that translate back to the sale.

 

Saying that. Now, I'm crazy for New Day after the live performance. Wouldn't mind it being a second single now.

New Day does have potential single material, it doesn't scream huge hit but is likely the only song to stand a chance of entering the top 100. The live performances of Giants have turned the song around immensely for me, i really like it and can see why it was selected as the lead single. I am unsure if New Day would have been a better lead single of not.

 

I agree about lack of second single material from Progress until Progressed was released. The Flood is a wonderful song but it in no way at all reflected the sound of the album as a whole. In contrast i feel These Days and Giants did represent the sound of the albums they were the lead singles from.

 

From the Progress era The Flood, Love Love, Eight Letters and possibly Happy Now were the only songs that could be singles.

 

 

 

I think Eight Letters (with a Valentine's Day release) and SOS should have been the second and third singles from Progress. I wouldn't have bothered with Kidz, though I like the track.

Kidz and SOS had the same style vibe so i myself would not select both as singles. At the time they performed these 2 songs on the various promotional routes they went and i felt both had similar vibes and same style performances. Eight Letters would have been a wonderful Valentines release, i so agree with that.

Wonderland, Number 5 this week on sales 15,700.

 

At the least, it has managed 3 weeks in the top 5 but i am slightly worried how it will perform this coming week.

 

The Ultimate Collection is Number 36 with what look like sales of around 2,000.

 

I really though the TV show would have had a much stronger effect on an all round basis.

Edited April 14, 20178 yr by pippa