February 21, 20178 yr But getting sales for that song isn't his priority at the moment. The purpose of the instant gratification is to hype the album and give an incentive for people to pre order it.
February 21, 20178 yr If this doesn't push the OCC to enforce new rules to make this a SINGLES chart again, then nothing will. Labels should have to nominate tracks as singles, with a maximum of one new single every so many weeks (somewhere between 8 and 13). Sales and streams of B-sides and remixes should contribute towards the single's weekly 'sales' in the singles chart. Tracks to purchase should be album only unless they are nominated as singles. Would help drive albums. Streaming albums would then actually mean something as well. I'm all for everything being available at my fingertips but if you don't put some form of restriction on a collection of songs then what is an album? What is a single?
February 21, 20178 yr I think once the entirety of Ed's album goes top 40 the OCC will have to do something. I reckon the label should have to nominate singles - no more than three from one album at any one time - to be chart eligible. Makes a joke of the singles chart when every album track makes the chart. It's already happened with Justin Bieber and The Weeknd and Beyoncé got the majority of her album in, but Ed's streaming domination will be even bigger.
February 21, 20178 yr I don't think nominating singles is something that would work - sometimes album tracks take off of their own accord, imagine if Love Yourself wasn't eligible to chart for a bit because it wasn't nominated as a single? Equally I don't particularly like how things are at the moment but there must be a better and more accurate option.
February 21, 20178 yr I don't think nominating singles is something that would work - sometimes album tracks take off of their own accord, imagine if Love Yourself wasn't eligible to chart for a bit because it wasn't nominated as a single? Equally I don't particularly like how things are at the moment but there must be a better and more accurate option. To be honest I think 'Love Yourself' would have taken off when nominated as a single. His album sales would have been bigger at the time and perhaps have pushed that to number 1 over the new year. It's all hypothetical of course!
February 21, 20178 yr I imagine they would have quickly nominated 'Love Yourself' as the third single though, it's not like there was any doubt about what the third single was going to be.
February 21, 20178 yr Itunes will always allow cherrypicking Thats been their policy in the last 10 years Won't change now But there should be a way so that If you stream an album or most of it Then it counts for the album charts only Not for both singles and albums
February 21, 20178 yr Author I think streams for songs should be counted for the charts on a one-play-in-its-entirety-per-person-every-day/150 basis. This'd eliminate a lot of the playlist bias in the charts and mean fanbases couldn't just HAMMER tracks from albums like they will do with Ed. The OCC will do something to alter how songs are counted for the charts, guaranteed.
February 21, 20178 yr Itunes will always allow cherrypicking Thats been their policy in the last 10 years Won't change now But there should be a way so that If you stream an album or most of it Then it counts for the album charts only Not for both singles and albums I don't suggest iTunes take away cherrypicking, I was saying let the record label nominate singles for chart eligibility. I have another idea as well, which may be an improvement on my original idea: - let all cherry-picked album track download sales be eligible - but the label has to nominate for streaming which songs are singles and which are album tracks - all singles streams count towards the singles chart, and that chart only - all album track streams count towards the albums chart, and that chart only - this way a stream only counts towards one chart, because it's ridiculous that at the moment it counts towards two charts.
February 21, 20178 yr He said on Grimmy's show this morning that people will go "nuts" for the track he is debuting at the BRITs, which we know already to be a duet/collaboration of some kind. Surely the only thing people will go nuts for at the moment is a big sounding dancehall/tropical track. I know there was mention of a Fuse ODG collaboration, but that can't be the one he is talking about here surely. Unless it's someone like Stormzy (i.e., the UK only will go nuts for it), I have a feeling it could be Rihanna. He has already collaborated with Taylor Swift, and that was meh.
February 21, 20178 yr I don't suggest iTunes take away cherrypicking, I was saying let the record label nominate singles for chart eligibility. I have another idea as well, which may be an improvement on my original idea: - let all cherry-picked album track download sales be eligible - but the label has to nominate for streaming which songs are singles and which are album tracks - all singles streams count towards the singles chart, and that chart only - all album track streams count towards the albums chart, and that chart only - this way a stream only counts towards one chart, because it's ridiculous that at the moment it counts towards two charts. I agree this would be ideal.
February 21, 20178 yr Somewhere down the line rules will have to change, if acts are going to release an album and all the tracks are made all available to stream. Thank god Ed Sheeran is not releasing a double album with 2 CDs, with at least 26 new tracks :drama: I just hope I didn't put this idea in his head, if he is treading Buzzjack. :lol: In a good way, he will be breaking a record having the most tracks in the singles chart, but you have to draw the line somewhere. And I like Dan's idea.
February 21, 20178 yr He said on Grimmy's show this morning that people will go "nuts" for the track he is debuting at the BRITs, which we know already to be a duet/collaboration of some kind. Surely the only thing people will go nuts for at the moment is a big sounding dancehall/tropical track. I know there was mention of a Fuse ODG collaboration, but that can't be the one he is talking about here surely. Unless it's someone like Stormzy (i.e., the UK only will go nuts for it), I have a feeling it could be Rihanna. He has already collaborated with Taylor Swift, and that was meh. That'd certainly make me go nuts! Sean Paul?
February 22, 20178 yr I'm glad eds having such success it's better than no success for artists for god sake, you can't win! At the end of the day he writes his own music and plays his own instruments and it makes people respect that and try it themselves, better than something like Westlife be hugely popular imo! Is Ed bigger than Adele??
February 22, 20178 yr I'm glad eds having such success it's better than no success for artists for god sake, you can't win! At the end of the day he writes his own music and plays his own instruments and it makes people respect that and try it themselves, better than something like Westlife be hugely popular imo! Is Ed bigger than Adele?? Excellent post that i fully agree with, i would also add that he seems like a very nice person who has not let fame change him. I would believe as big as Ed Sheeran is, Adele is the bigger artist. That said, both are hugely successful artists. An Adele and Ed Sheeran duets album, that would be a seller! :yahoo:
February 22, 20178 yr Is there any indication at all that the OCC cares about album tracks dominating the chart? Lol
February 22, 20178 yr I do feel that the Weeknd domination in November at least partly led them to change the ratio (100:1 to 150:1) though... so they appear to care a little IMO.
February 22, 20178 yr Excellent post that i fully agree with, i would also add that he seems like a very nice person who has not let fame change him. I would believe as big as Ed Sheeran is, Adele is the bigger artist. That said, both are hugely successful artists. An Adele and Ed Sheeran duets album, that would be a seller! :yahoo: Thanks! As has been mentioned in previous discussions Ed is probably a more singles friendly artist. Still I can't wait to see Eds album sales next week!!
February 23, 20178 yr Is Ed bigger than Adele?? As successful as Ed is, he is not in the same league as Adele when it comes to global success. She has sold >50m with her last 2 albums, Ed has sold about 10m with his 2. In the US, X & + have sold <2.2m each. 19, 21 and 25 have sold 3m, 11.8m and 9.2m respectively. Even in the UK, you can completely ignore Adele's mammoth 21, and her 2 lesser selling albums still significantly outsell Ed's 2. This is not to do Ed down, he's phenomenally successful and will no doubt have further great success with ÷, just presenting a few facts.
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