Posted September 21, 20177 yr http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/18...-murder-charge/ Opinions? IMO if someone breaks into your home, they are fair game, even if you have to use an illegal weapon to deal with them!
September 21, 20177 yr Author Death is not an appropriate punishment for burglary. Not for the courts to hand out, no - but this was about self-defence. If you honestly believe your life is in danger, you are allowed to defend yourself by any means necessary. Edited September 21, 20177 yr by vidcapper
September 21, 20177 yr This is not America though, he was owning a gun illegally, and self-defence shouldn't be a justification for killing - he deserves jail time.
September 21, 20177 yr Author This is not America though, he was owning a gun illegally, and self-defence shouldn't be a justification for killing - he deserves jail time. He probably will get jail time for illegal gun possession, but not for killing in self-defence, since that is something that you can't premeditate - it just happens accidentally.
September 21, 20177 yr Using lethal force to defend property is not a legally acceptable defence for murder or manslaughter and he will rightfully go to jail. Being burgled is horrid but the offender should be rehabilitated, not f***ing killed. If you end someone's life, you go to jail. End of discussion
September 21, 20177 yr Author Using lethal force to defend property is not a legally acceptable defence for murder or manslaughter and he will rightfully go to jail. But is wasn't *just* property, it was himself & his sister. Being burgled is horrid but the offender should be rehabilitated, not f***ing killed. If you end someone's life, you go to jail. End of discussion If *all* that happens is that you are being burgled, I'd agree with you - but if they attack you (as I believe happened in the case in point), are you supposed to let yourself be killed? If you *can* escape, you are supposed to, but in a caravan with the only door blocked by the intruder, that's not an option. Edited September 21, 20177 yr by vidcapper
September 21, 20177 yr Author My god you should move to the U.s You are crazily right wing What, just for saying people are entitled to defend themselves?
September 21, 20177 yr I don't have an issue with fighting back and defending yourself. I have an issue with lethal force being used in that process. Firearms are fortunately illegal for the most part here and that means that a scenario where you would be significantly disadvantaged is unlikely to occur.
September 21, 20177 yr Defending yourself is one thing - doing so with an illegal firearm is a bit different.
September 22, 20177 yr People are entitled to defend themselves, but they aren't entitled to kill, for good reason. If someone hit me and I killed them, I wouldn't be able to just pass it off as self defence, and rightfully so.
September 22, 20177 yr Author People are entitled to defend themselves, but they aren't entitled to kill, for good reason. If someone hit me and I killed them, I wouldn't be able to just pass it off as self defence, and rightfully so. Indeed - and that's why the issue of proportional force is a factor in the CPS deciding whether claims of self-defence are legitimate. If an intruder hits you, and you hit him back, knocking him unconscious, that would be OK - but if you then beat the shit out of him while he's lying helpless, that would be counted as excessive force, and you'd be in big trouble!
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