Fantastic, excellent choice is single. Amazes me how different the album sales climate is compared to 10 years ago. The number 1 would be selling well into the hundreds of thousands

I really like Everlasting - the studio version. But, if they're gonna promote it and sing it live, I fear it's gonna have the opposite effect to the desired one. The GP really doesn't like Mark's voice and none of his latest performances has been well received. Hope he improves his live performances.

I really like Everlasting. I think Gary should have been lead vocal on it with Mark leading on OOUH. In my view Everlasting requires a strong vocalist - and unfortunately I don't think Mark's voice is good enough live. I also think Everlasting should have been the first release off the album.

Although, considering they've already gone on holiday, it's doubtful they're gonna promote this single.

I think I'm the only one that loves Mark's voice. :P

It sounds a little like it could have been on Mark’s last studio album - at least, I thought that today when I listened to it.

 

Good to see TT back in the top 5 in today’s midweeks. 25k sold

I'm just glad to see their sales are consistent. It will get awhile, but, hopefully, the album will get certified platinum soon enough.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/dec/...-members-ranked

Jason, Gary, Robbie

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/dec/...-members-ranked

Jason, Gary, Robbie

 

What a load of rubbish.

Do you mean with regard to Gary's entry?

It's the Guardian....it's ALWAYS rubbish. It's not even funny.

because? I think it is pretty interesting and well The Guardian is hardly a newspaper like the tabloids SUN and DM

It's worse than The Sun or The Daily Fail because it pretends to be a "serious" paper, when, in fact, it's just a bunch of politically biased journalists spewing bile in all directions.

The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Independent and a few more had never had anything good to say about Gary, they've only mocked and trashed him.

I despise journalists in general, but especially those who work for these particular papers.

Edited December 14, 20186 yr by milly

Odyssey stayed at 5 this week! :heart:

Almost 30k this week. That means we're now at about 165k sold.

Edited December 14, 20186 yr by milly

All in all the album is holding up better than I expected. That doesn't take away from the fact that their sales have nose dived. They have a core fan base but in the past 4 years they've lost the 'casual' fan - partially because a lot of their material has been sub standard ( and that's coming from a fan)

 

Re Guardian piece. I've no problem with the first three placings. Rob has had a stellar solo career for a very long time and continues to sell out large venues around the world. As for the other placings I think we can take it with a 'pinch of salt.' The Guardian has always hated GB and that's clearly evident from this article.

 

 

 

 

I believe that the pre-orders came from the hard core fans and the rest of the sales are just casual buyers.

Having said that, it's still sad that their fanbase has diminished this much.

 

On the other hand, considering we're all aging fans, the fanbase will keep diminishing as years pass by :P I know for certain that lots of their fans have already died :P I know...black humour, bad jokes :angel:

While at the moment its sales are doing ok there is no denying there sales have nosedived.other albums by them in the past would have sold a million by now or close to it.

Considering all the scandals they provoked or that the media got them involved in in the past few years, we should be grateful there's still a fanbase out there for them.

I still think it's a combination of 1) Tax issue - they've been criticised for it significantly more than other celebs, and it's still brought up 4 years later! 2) Taking Rob back (albeit it temporarily) 3) Jay leaving not long after the tax issue came to light and 4) weak music. I know some people say that sales have collapsed across the board but it hasn't affected Adele or Ed Sheeran; so there's still a market for popular music.

 

To this day I'll never understand why they've deviated so far from the sound of BW and The Circus. I'll be honest - I've gone to the last three tours and not enjoyed them very much, whereas I've loved the GB tours. I haven't enjoyed the albums ( III or Wonderland) but I've loved Gary's musical stuff. There are some beautiful songs in Finding Neverland and some sweet tunes in Calendar Girls.

 

As a TT fan it's been a strange 4 years!!

I have to defend III, cause it's still my favorite TT album :) I play the songs more than those on BW, which I didn't think would happen.

 

But I agree, Gary's solo output has been more to my taste, especially SISYL and Finding Neverland - beautiful, beautiful music.

 

TT started losing fans long before the tax scandal and Jay leaving. There were the scandals with Howard, then Mark's affairs - I think that alone alienated at least 1/4 of the fanbase, then Rob coming-going-acting ....well, like himself...during Progress, Jay leaving and, of course, the nail in the coffin, the tax scandal. I think the music could have been extremely good and many people would still not have touched it.

 

But, it is what it is. Let's be glad they're still able to get no ones and to sell a lot more than artists who're supposed to be at the peak of their career.

Edited December 15, 20186 yr by milly