Latest polls have a 3% gap, and we all knoe these polls are propaganda exercises for Tories, rather than fact. They're done. They're finished.

 

I hate to tell you this, but wishful thinking doesn't work... :rolleyes:

I think we're still in a honeymoon period for the PM (even Brown's lasted 3 months) and the Tories could easily fall away in any election scenario. Corbyn's shown his expertise in a campaign scenario, Johnson from his public appearances decidedly... hasn't. And the gap was far bigger in 2017. This isn't an ideal situation for the Conservatives.

Rememebr: polling companies are propaganda tools. The bandwagon effect is a real thing. They were completely wrong last time, all fvaouring 400 seat Tory majorities etc! We saw the same with Michihan, with them pretending Hillary was 23 points ahead vs Bernie.

 

The Tories are finished.

Rememebr: polling companies are propaganda tools. The bandwagon effect is a real thing. They were completely wrong last time, all fvaouring 400 seat Tory majorities etc! We saw the same with Michihan, with them pretending Hillary was 23 points ahead vs Bernie.

 

The Tories are finished.

 

Is *everything* a conspiracy for you? :rolleyes:

 

I think we're still in a honeymoon period for the PM (even Brown's lasted 3 months) and the Tories could easily fall away in any election scenario. Corbyn's shown his expertise in a campaign scenario, Johnson from his public appearances decidedly... hasn't. And the gap was far bigger in 2017. This isn't an ideal situation for the Conservatives.

 

The gap *was* bigger in 2017, but polling companies tend to adjust their methodology when they get things that wrong, so I think it would be unwise of Labour to rely on a similar campaign surge, or that the Tories will run such a lacklustre/complacent campaign.

You do rralisr impartiality rules come in to play too, so thr one party state media has to dial back its government propaganda too? The polls in thr US are still reporting error-riddled polls and freely ADMIT Bernie will probably outperform them. Oops. It's the same here. Sorry.

Another one of these 'fake' polls? :rolleyes:

 

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articl...4-15-oct-update

Yes. It is ToryGov, literally the worst one.

The recent increase in the Conservative vote share has been taken from the Brexit Party, that may change if there is an extension beyond 31st October...

 

Average (1-10 Oct) over 4 polls:

 

Con 34%

Lab 24½%

Lib Dem 18%

Brexit Party 12%

Green 5%

Yes. It is ToryGov, literally the worst one.

 

Why can you not grasp that it is not in *anyone's* interest to 'rig' polls - as the last election proved, real votes always trump polls. In any case, poor predictions hurt polling companies commercially!

 

The 'bandwagon' effect was notably absent last time, so don't bother citing it...

Edited October 18, 20195 yr by vidcapper

Except it buoyed the Tories, as did Brexshit? Given REAL UNBALANCED polling feom the start, Mad May would have lost far more seats.

If it weren't in the corporate neoliberal interest, polls would be far more accurate. It is a whole thing in political theory. Sorry.

Except it buoyed the Tories, as did Brexshit? Given REAL UNBALANCED polling feom the start, Mad May would have lost far more seats.

 

Lets get this straight - you'd rather have polls with an inbuilt bias towards Labour? How is that any better than vice versa? :wacko:

 

The polls may have given the Tories an over-optimistic view of their position, but even after the real position was clarified, Labour *still* did not win nearly enough seats to prevail.

 

And yet wa sonly 2k votes away from an overall majority based on narrow seats after being written off THANKD TO BIASED POLLS. Soo yeaah.

And yet wa sonly 2k votes away from an overall majority based on narrow seats after being written off THANKD TO BIASED POLLS. Soo yeaah.

 

You're getting really desperate if you're resorting to fantasy politics now! :lol:

Not fanrasy, but facts. That was the difference. Sorry.

Not fanrasy, but facts. That was the difference. Sorry.

 

No, the facts are what the result *actually was*! :rolleyes:

Michael doesn't like facts. He still says REMAIN won and Hillary's sat in the Oval office. :o :o

No, the facts are what the result *actually was*! :rolleyes:

 

And the fact is 2k votes total across select constituencies would have won it.

And the fact is 2k votes total across select constituencies would have won it.

 

 

Would have, could have. All irrelevant. Those voters couldn't stomach Corbyn as PM though and won't next time. He's a failure.