and right now, Mariah is still not doing enough but if she goes over 1 million for a couple days this week while Ava/Ari remain at 300k, then Mariah can get the #1

also remember that the occ estimates Thu streams, so not sure how they're gonna do it with Mariah, maybe based on previous year, but anyway it will be pure guess and a total made up figure that is impossible to estimate imho

If Christmas day was thyrs or Friday I think she would def do it but she lose sales big time the way its falling on a tuesday.

 

As said before Christmas hits would theoretically did the best when Christmas day was on Wed (2019 Christmas day on Wed btw) since this is the last day of the tracking week to have accurate streams data from Spotify, AM etc (Those streams data tend to be late getting into OCC so that's why we have missing streaming data on mid week update) and then OCC have to estimate Thursday streams in order to publish the latest chart Friday Afternoon on time.

 

And even if Christmas fall on Wed does not mean 100% Mariah and other Christmas hits would get it, we need weak competition on other SCR tracks this time next year.

Edited December 24, 20186 yr by deepinside

If Christmas day was thyrs or Friday I think she would def do it but she lose sales big time the way its falling on a tuesday.

Those days aren't ideal!

 

If Christmas Day was on Thursday then she wouldn't have any of the streaming data from that day contribute to the Friday chart. I'm not convinced that 19th-24th Dec streams (and estimated streams for the 25th) would necessarily be enough to clinch it. She needs a week when Christmas Day streams are actually accounted for.

 

Christmas Day on Friday would be even worse, that would mean 18th-23rd streams are counted, Christmas Eve data isn't, and Christmas Day boost is isolated to the week after.

 

The ideal moment is when Boxing Day falls on a Thursday (which is actually happening in 2019). Then she'll have 20th-25th count, and it won't matter that the streams drop off on Boxing Day because they're estimated. Therefore Christmas Day on a Wednesday is the optimum day for Mariah (and for other Christmas songs to achieve their best peaks/sales).

 

This week in theory is a good opportunity for Mariah, because it includes 21st-25th Dec with high streams, then only 26th Dec will see a sharp decline, and the 27th streams won't count.

 

(Wrote this before noticing deepinside's reply!)

I actually think this week is the best chance for Mariah cos she'll probably get 0 streams on Thu

but theres no way for the occ to know that and Im sure they're gonna overestimate it by a lot

I know 2020 Christmas will fall on a Friday, it will skip a day cause its a leap year. Her best shot will be next year as Jay pointed out above.

Thank God for ACR is all I can say. No one need Mariah number 1 with a 24 year old song, then a sausage roll song, then Mariah again on the chart to be announced on Dec 28th.

Thank God for ACR is all I can say. No one need Mariah number 1 with a 24 year old song, then a sausage roll song, then Mariah again on the chart to be announced on Dec 28th.

The British streaming public disagrees.

The British streaming public disagrees.

 

THIS

 

Mariah deserves the no.1.

As surreal as it will be to see Mariah get a #01 so late from it's original release date, what an acheivement! It's on a chart week no one really cares about, and bringing excitement / something different to the chart is no bad thing! As much as I despise LadBaby, it brought attention to non chart fans for the first time in years!

Mariah being number 1 wont bring any attention to the chart. I'm sure most people think AIWFCIY was already a number 1 upon release.

 

 

and right now, Mariah is still not doing enough but if she goes over 1 million for a couple days this week while Ava/Ari remain at 300k, then Mariah can get the #1

also remember that the occ estimates Thu streams, so not sure how they're gonna do it with Mariah, maybe based on previous year, but anyway it will be pure guess and a total made up figure that is impossible to estimate imho

 

I can see them underestimating her if she is in with a shout so the public/media don't grab the story and make a mockery of the chart.

 

I think she has a big chance this Friday - as Dan pointed out she has over 700k today which was yesterday's info which is up from last year on the 23/12. So if this is repeated today and tomorrow she will be massively ahead of Ava and Ariana!

Mariah being number 1 wont bring any attention to the chart. I'm sure most people think AIWFCIY was already a number 1 upon release.

I have no doubt we'll see articles about Mariah reaching #1 24 years after release. It's a highly notable achievement! Sure, people probably do think it was already a #1, which will only increase the shock factor when the headlines arrive.

I have no doubt we'll see articles about Mariah reaching #1 24 years after release. It's a highly notable achievement! Sure, people probably do think it was already a #1, which will only increase the shock factor when the headlines arrive.

 

Agreed it's always my chart fact Party piece to advise everyone on Xmas day when Fairytale of New York is playing that the Pet Shop Boys beat it to no1 which most are incredulous of :lol:

The British streaming public disagrees.

 

Tbf most of the people streaming it dont even realise they are contributing to the charts :lol:

Edited December 24, 20186 yr by 777666jason

Tbf most of the people streaming it dont even realise they are contributing to the charts :lol:

 

Most of the people streaming it are doing so from Xmas playlists. Unless loads of people are seeking out Matt Terry at xmas it is obvious the streaming chart is even more heavily lead by playlists at xmas than it is normally.

Most of the people streaming it are doing so from Xmas playlists. Unless loads of people are seeking out Matt Terry at xmas it is obvious the streaming chart is even more heavily lead by playlists at xmas than it is normally.

 

Leave matt terry alone i specifaclly looked for it and played its loads. Although LL, KC , TP and MT are the only ones i have actively searched for :lol:

One More Sleep! :wub: Five more naats on ma ooown. You did well to search foe it!

Non-Christmas Top 40 (23/12)

1 11 thank u, next Ariana Grande

2 14 Sweet but Psycho Ava Max

3 23 Without Me Halsey

4 24 Sunflower - Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Post Malone

5 31 Nothing Breaks Like a Heart (feat. Miley Cyrus) Mark Ronson

6 36 SICKO MODE Travis Scott

7 37 ZEZE (feat. Travis Scott & Offset) Kodak Black

8 42 Ruin My Life Zara Larsson

9 46 Funky Friday Dave

10 48 imagine Ariana Grande

11 50 Shotgun George Ezra

12 51 Eastside (with Halsey & Khalid) benny blanco

13 53 Woman Like Me (feat. Nicki Minaj) Little Mix

14 57 Happier Marshmello

15 58 Thursday Jess Glynne

16 63 Going Bad (feat. Drake) Meek Mill

17 64 Promises (with Sam Smith) Calvin Harris

18 66 This Is Me Keala Settle

19 67 The Greatest Show Hugh Jackman

20 69 Close To Me (with Diplo) (feat. Swae Lee) Ellie Goulding

21 70 Mo Bamba Sheck Wes

22 71 Shallow Lady Gaga

23 73 Rewrite The Stars (with James Arthur & Anne-Marie) James Arthur

24 77 Lucid Dreams Juice WRLD

25 78 A Million Dreams Ziv Zaifman

26 82 Gun Lean Russ splash

27 83 when the party's over Billie Eilish

28 85 Rewrite The Stars Zac Efron

29 87 1999 Charli XCX

30 88 SAD! XXXTENTACION

31 89 KIKA (feat. Tory Lanez) 6ix9ine

32 90 Better Khalid

33 91 Better Now Post Malone

34 93 Taste (feat. Offset) Tyga

35 94 Let You Love Me Rita Ora

36 96 Arms Around You (feat. Maluma & Swae Lee) XXXTENTACION

37 99 Advice Cadet

38 100 Bohemian Rhapsody - Remastered 2011 Queen

39 101 Never Enough Loren Allred

40 102 Taki Taki (with Selena Gomez, Ozuna & Cardi B) DJ Snake

 

This Is Me seems very likely to return to the official top 20 after Christmas, its streams will only increase after the TV showing of it tomorrow too :drama:

 

And now Kworb has updated here's the Christmas songs that reached new peaks today.

 

4. Brenda Lee - Rockin Around the Christmas Tree

13. Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime

29. Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town

33. Dean Martin - Let It Snow

43. Britney Spears - My Only Wish (This Year)

45. Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus

52. Burl Ives - Holly Jolly Christmas

54. Meghan Trainor - I'll Be Home

61. Brett Eldredge - Baby It's Cold Outside

65. Hall & Oates - Jingle Bell Rock

72. Gwen Stefani - You Make It Feel Like Christmas

76. Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)

81. Tony Bennett - Winter Wonderland

86. Ariana Grande - Santa Baby

200. Bing Crosby - It's Beginning To Look Like Christmas

Radio seems to be hammering the recent band aid but spotify listeners prefer the original :P

I have t heard band Aid 30 since its release 4 years ago!