For last night’s developments it’s mostly as expected. The close result everyone is focusing on wasn’t the main vote, deflecting to make no deal seem more supported, I guess. Besides meaningful votes coming back it looks like no deal is the option we’re still stumbling into, even though it shouldn’t be and every incompetent fool in the government needs to be held to way more account than they are currently being.

 

I thought last night's vote was specifically to prevent a 'No Deal' outcome? :unsure:

Yes and now the government is committed to stopping it. Except the only way to stop it now is either take a deal that has failed stunningly twice or otherwise cancel or delay the Brexit process. So they may still fail to agree on a course of action and it happens.

 

Which incredibly still seems like one of the more likely options.

Yes and now the government is committed to stopping it.

 

Like anyone would trust a gov't commitment to *anything* now... :angry:

Like anyone would trust a gov't commitment to *anything* now... :angry:

 

Blame the hard Brexiteers like Davies, Johnson, ReesFrogg. If they had stuck to what they promised during the referendum (eg Norway Option) then they would have voted for May's deal instead of quitting in a quittery fainting couch strop from the process altogether cos the EU stuck to it's rules and regulations as the less stupid amongst us always knew would happen (see 3 years of posts), and we would be starting the withdrawal process right now with trade deals for the next 18 months.

 

Once a lying dumb toff, always a lying dumb toff. Except Davies. He's not a toff. Serves every Brexiteer right for being so naive as to believe that they were anything other than lying dumb self-interested toffs, the toffiest part of a Toffy party. I propose they be formally renamed The Toffy Party: rich, entitled, sticky if you have anything to do with them and full of sugar to hide the fact that it's very bad for you.

 

hashtagnotfooledforasecond.

Blame the hard Brexiteers like Davies, Johnson, ReesFrogg. If they had stuck to what they promised during the referendum (eg Norway Option) then they would have voted for May's deal instead of quitting in a quittery fainting couch strop from the process altogether cos the EU stuck to it's rules and regulations as the less stupid amongst us always knew would happen (see 3 years of posts), and we would be starting the withdrawal process right now with trade deals for the next 18 months.

 

Once a lying dumb toff, always a lying dumb toff. Except Davies. He's not a toff. Serves every Brexiteer right for being so naive as to believe that they were anything other than lying dumb self-interested toffs, the toffiest part of a Toffy party. I propose they be formally renamed The Toffy Party: rich, entitled, sticky if you have anything to do with them and full of sugar to hide the fact that it's very bad for you.

 

hashtagnotfooledforasecond.

 

Now you are beginning to sound like Michael aka Queef etc. :P

Now you are beginning to sound like Michael aka Queef etc. :P

 

Notice you're not arguing it's inaccurate :P

The DUP have been in meetings all day with senior Tories to try and get them to back May's deal if she presents it to the Commons for a third time. Even if they all back it I still can't see enough Tories/ Labour changing their minds and voting it through.

Edited March 15, 20196 yr by Common Sense

The DUP have been in meetings all day with senior Tories to try and get them to back May's deal if she presents it to the Commons for a third time. Even if they all back it I still can't see enough Tories/ Labour changing their minds and voting it through.

 

At this point you have to ask do the DUP and ERG even want Brexit if they vote down May's deal? I think her deal has a good chance of going through, which yanno makes a big of a mockery of democracy and also hypocritical of not having a 2nd Referendum - a deal going through that nobody really wants, thinks is a bit shit, but they're all too ideologically proud.

ISTM all Brexit's opponents are focused on getting a 2nd referendum now, but what do they do if they succeed in getting one, and it is once again won by the Leave side?

Remember those ferry contracts? You know, the ones that included a company with no ferries and no experience of running a ferry service. It turns out that the contracts only applied to a no-deal exit on 29 March. If there’s a prospect of leaving without a deal on any other date, a whole new set of contracts will be required. Anyone fancy joining me in setting up Buzzjack Ferrries? No relevant experience required.

ISTM all Brexit's opponents are focused on getting a 2nd referendum now, but what do they do if they succeed in getting one, and it is once again won by the Leave side?

 

Then it happens and the bickering ends, and they get on with the job, the ERG & DUP shut up insisting they know what people want, and Remainers accept the will of the people, regardless of consequences, because people are voting on a specific deal, not a fantasy hypothetical scenario that can't be delivered.

Then it happens and the bickering ends, and they get on with the job, the ERG & DUP shut up insisting they know what people want, and Remainers accept the will of the people, regardless of consequences, because people are voting on a specific deal, not a fantasy hypothetical scenario that can't be delivered.

 

:rofl:

 

Best joke I've heard all year!

 

Remember those ferry contracts? You know, the ones that included a company with no ferries and no experience of running a ferry service. It turns out that the contracts only applied to a no-deal exit on 29 March. If there’s a prospect of leaving without a deal on any other date, a whole new set of contracts will be required. Anyone fancy joining me in setting up Buzzjack Ferrries? No relevant experience required.

 

Tory Party and their lack of forward planning is an ongoing theme, locally and nationally, blinkered and wasteful and panic-driven, political agendas with no regard for blatantly obvious facts even when the facts are pointed out, and they decide to sack the pointers-outers rather than accept the truth as fact.

 

I suggest Buzzferry Unlimited Longhaul Limited Sea Haulage International Trade as a catchy name. Anyone got a rowing boat?

No, what John says is true for a certain period of time. During the process of divorce, it'll be accepted as conclusively popular even though many are still ornery that their EU citizenship and opportunities will indeed be stripped from them.

 

Then, at this point many years from the first vote and assuming that the EU is still the economic and political force keeping Europe relevant and powerful in the face of the three superpowers of Russia/USA/China, calls for rejoining will resurface and this depends on the outcome of Brexit. If the probable, predicted patterns of Brexit follow, then it will not have been a success and rejoining will be popular. Quite possibly so much so that we will take back our membership without our shiny opt-outs, finally surrending borders and joining Schengen/Eurozone.

 

Over the long-term, assuming the EU continues to survive as a powerful entity, I think it's inevitable that eventually we will be back in.

a lovely character-assassination job for the lowlife of the week's developments from the ever-reliable Marina Hyde and her bluntly accurate observations of the ego-trippers.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...MP=share_btn_tw

:rofl:

 

Best joke I've heard all year!

 

Unlike Farage and his acolytes Remainers generally are not going to endlessly whinge and moan for decades about our bananas now being too bendy. We will, however, be perfectly justified to moan endlessly about the UK government and the complete balls-up it makes of our national well-being over the forthcoming decades without reference to having the cop-out of the EU to blame, and oh yes, lots of "I told you so's" everytime any Brexiteer DARES complain about anything that has resulted directly from Brexit and the nation being poorer.

 

So, at least we can enjoy that for the rest of your lives :P I've already started on my Brexit-supporting family members when they moan about being sick of Brexit: "well, don't blame me, I didn't vote for it!".

 

Works a treat to stop any tedious discussion about Brexit.

 

 

Unlike Farage and his acolytes Remainers generally are not going to endlessly whinge and moan for decades about our bananas now being too bendy. We will, however, be perfectly justified to moan endlessly about the UK government and the complete balls-up it makes of our national well-being over the forthcoming decades without reference to having the cop-out of the EU to blame, and oh yes, lots of "I told you so's" everytime any Brexiteer DARES complain about anything that has resulted directly from Brexit and the nation being poorer.

 

So, at least we can enjoy that for the rest of your lives :P I've already started on my Brexit-supporting family members when they moan about being sick of Brexit: "well, don't blame me, I didn't vote for it!".

 

Works a treat to stop any tedious discussion about Brexit.

 

And yet you masochistically come back here... :teresa:

 

And yet you masochistically come back here... :teresa:

 

well don't blame me, I didn't vote for it.....!

 

PS at least I'm not campaigning around the much-hated EU countries trying to get them to agree not to extend Article 50, like hypocrite Fartage, still paid 200k a year for saying how much he wants them to keep their nose out of UK politics except when he wants them to stick their nose into UK politics when he wishes to overthrow British parliament which he fought so hard to bring back control to.

 

What a GALACTIC-SIZED HYPOCRITE he truly is. A self-absorbed, lying, racist, far-right, Hitler-youth parading collaborator with Trump, Assange, Le Pen and their mutual Russian-mobster financed mates.

 

Thanks for giving me a reminder to express my ongoing disgust at the lying little privately-educated City of London-working former-bankrupt who pretends to be one with the working class. Before you say I'm sounding quite left-wing, that comment also applies to current strangleholders of the Labour Party. Apart from the bankrupt thing. Corbyn hasn't ever had a proper job. Neither has Seumus Milne, he's spent his life writing about theoretical politics instead of working with people.

 

Jess Phillips for PM.... :P

According to the Express, truck drivers are threatening to bring the country to a complete standstill by blockading roads and motorways as a protest if we don't leave the EU on March 29th.

 

 

TRUCK drivers are planning to stage UK-wide blockades on highways if the country does not leave the EU on March 29, which they would see as a “Brexit betrayal”.

 

An anti-EU group which calls itself Brexit Direct Action claims it has been inundated with requests from campaigners to stage mass blockades of Britain’s major transport links. The group, which aims to “organise and coordinate action against those whose intension is to delay/stop Brexit”, has urged its followers on social media to mobilise after MPs voted for Brexit to be postponed. Brexit Direct Action wrote on Twitter: “Several social media groups have been in contact to ask if we’ll help gather support for a national truck drivers protest if Brexit is delayed.”

 

It has vowed to take “direct action and protest” if an extension to Article 50 is granted by all 27 EU member states.

 

The plan to “bring this country to its knees” and urged Brexiteers across the country to get involved.

 

A statement posted by the group on Twitter read: “Brexiteers all over the country are planning to bring this country to its knees by blocking the main arterial routes - M1, M6 M25, M62, A1, A55, M5, M4, M42, M55, M61, A66 etc.

 

 

 

 

 

Bring it on I say. Good on the truckers! The decision of the people must be implemented on 29th.