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for me Dangerous is jack at his worst, there's barely any song that I like... even Black or white is pretty meh to me and hasn't passed the test of time... I find all he songs very average, like a 6/10 but for comparison nearly everything on Bad is a 10/10...

you really cannot compare songs like Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Man in the Mirror

to the singles from Dangerous: Remember the time, Jam, In the closet...

it's like 2 different leagues imho...

 

That's fair enough - and I'm sure most of the world would agree - but I honestly prefer Who Is It? to anything else he's ever recorded. The production is amazing.

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did you discover MJ with Dangerous? cos thats the only explanation I can find for this album being your favourite?

 

Nope, Bad was the first album of his that I owned. I found Dangerous far more interesting to listen to though, Bad is decent but a lot of it is very similar.

 

I don't love everything on Dangerous by any means but the following make a great album:

 

01 Jam

02 Why You Wanna Trip On Me

03 In The Closet

04 Remember The Time

05 Black Or White

06 Who Is It?

07 Give In To Me

08 Will You Be There

09 Keep The Faith

10 Gone Too Soon

11 Dangerous

 

I'd rather listen to that than any of his others.

 

Hi chris :)

 

I agree about tango in the night, i loved bad the album - but more as a collection of great singles than a cohesive whole. The first 2 work better as albums even if not all the tracks are epic - hi the girl is mine! :D

 

 

Hiya.

 

Agree about The Girl Is Mine. It lets Thriller down a bit. I love Human Nature and it was a US single IIRC. Doubt any album will outsell Thriller now with CD sales on the decline.

for me Dangerous is jack at his worst, there's barely any song that I like... even Black or white is pretty meh to me and hasn't passed the test of time... I find all he songs very average, like a 6/10 but for comparison nearly everything on Bad is a 10/10...

you really cannot compare songs like Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Man in the Mirror

to the singles from Dangerous: Remember the time, Jam, In the closet...

it's like 2 different leagues imho...

 

 

Dangerous at 77min is just too long with some filler to make the time up. Studio albums just don't work at that length. It would have made a great 60min album. I can't stand the first two tracks for instance. Jam and Why You Gonna Trip On Me do nothing for me at all.

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Hiya.

 

Agree about The Girl Is Mine. It lets Thriller down a bit. I love Human Nature and it was a US single IIRC. Doubt any album will outsell Thriller now with CD sales on the decline.

 

Yes that was a stinker of a lead track for an album, cringeworthy, i think he was just showing off his bestie new mate was a legend - at least till he outbid macca for his songwriting catalogue, oops! :lol:

 

Yes thriller seems unapproachable - the nearest challenger is eagles greatest hits which is a steady seller, even on streaming alone, but it would take decades to catch up assuming thriller stops selling. Adele is top of the 21st century and is under half the sales!

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18th October 1987

 

It's back up on top for a second week for The Bee Gees fab You Win Again, as the Big 5 maintain a vice-like grip for a 3rd week, and Pet Shop Boys get 2 going up to threaten it, Rent modestly keeping their top 10 rate at 100%. Sisters Of Mercy also got top 10 with This Corrosion, and Jan Hammer's tuneful Crockett's Theme is at 8, The Christians make it a 3rd top 10. Billy Idol takes his double Mony Mony into the 20 as Amazulu enter at 75 with their own typically perfunctory cover version.

 

Eurythmics bound into the 20 with one big leap of Beethoven, who'd been there before as a Fifth Of Beethoven with future Family Guy soundtracker Walter Murphy in 1976, and intro-ing ELO's Roll Over Beethoven in 1973. George Michael takes a big leap of Faith into the 30 (I've been saving that one for over 30 years), as Jellybean sees The Real Thing - well, so have I, twice. The Fatback Band return to the 40 after a long gap, chased by DJ Steve Walsh covering I Found Lovin': signs of the future, hit DJ's.

 

Highest new entry is The Cure, just ahead of Stevie Wonder extending his chart run to 19 years with some Skeletons in his closet, while INXS are back with a monster track, the brilliant Need You Tonight Kick-starting the new classic album, an all-time funkrock great album and single, and showcasing what a great live act the band were - Michael Hutchence was an awesome frontman, one of the great live gigs I've seen. George Harrison returns with a corker, courtesy of Jeff Lynne productions, after a lengthy gap, 17 years on from My Sweet Lord, and joining his Beatles in the chart with his 50's cover. Chic jack-up Le Freak. Yes, they really do jack it up, but Nile Rodgers is finally forgiven in 20 years or so.

 

Other than that, lots of chart regulars all return, and I note that all 3 of my playlist oldies that week were future chart-toppers in the 80's, 90's and 10's respectively.

 

 

1 ( 2 ) YOU WIN AGAIN The Bee Gees

2 ( 3 ) LITTLE LIES Fleetwood Mac

3 ( 1 ) BAD Michael Jackson

4 ( 4 ) PUMP UP THE VOLUME M/A/R/R/S

5 ( 5 ) HOLIDAY The Other Ones

6 ( 10 ) WHAT HAVE I DONE (TO DESERVE THIS) Pet Shop Boys & Dusty Springfield

7 ( 18 ) THIS CORROSION Sisters Of Mercy

8 ( 15 ) CROCKETT’S THEME Jan Hammer

9 ( 14 ) RENT Pet Shop Boys

10 ( 12 ) WHEN THE FINGERS POINT The Christians

 

11 ( 8 ) I NEED LOVE LL Cool J

12 ( 27 ) MONY MONY (US SINGLE VERSION/LIVE VERSION) Billy Idol

13 ( 13 ) COME SEE ABOUT ME Shakin’ Stevens

14 ( 11 ) SUGAR SUGAR (CANDYFLOSS MIX)/(ORIGINAL VERSION) The Archies

15 ( 6 ) CARS (E REG MODEL)/ ARE ‘FRIENDS’ ELECTRIC Gary Numan & Tubeway Army

16 ( 16 ) MY BAG Lloyd Cole & The Commotions

17 ( 7 ) THE NIGHT YOU MURDERED LOVE ABC

18 ( 9 ) FAMILY AFFAIR/RUNNIN’ AWAY Sly & The Family Stone

19 ( 28 ) ONLY IN MY DREAMS Debbie Gibson

20 ( 56 ) BEETHOVEN (I LOVE TO LISTEN TO) Eurythmics

 

21 ( 29 ) IT’S OVER Level 42

22 ( 22 ) LOVE CHANGES EVERYTHING Climie Fisher

23 ( 17 ) SOME PEOPLE Cliff Richard

24 ( 20 ) HEART AND SOUL T’Pau

25 ( 25 ) (I’VE HAD THE) TIME OF MY LIFE Jennifer Warnes & Bill Medley

26 ( 53 ) FAITH George Michael

27 ( 49 ) THE REAL THING Jellybean featuring Stephen Dante

28 ( 23 ) LOVE POWER Dionne Warwick & Jeffrey Osbourne

29 ( 19 ) LET ME BE THE ONE Expose

30 ( 32 ) I HEARD A RUMOUR Bananarama

 

31 ( 33 ) LOST IN EMOTION Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam

32 ( 24 ) SILVERMAC Westworld

33 ( 35 ) I THINK WE’RE ALONE NOW Tiffany

34 ( 54 ) I FOUND LOVIN’ The Fatback Band

35 ( 38 ) WHO WILL YOU RUN TO Heart

36 ( 21 ) HEY MATTHEW Karel Fialka

37 ( NEW ) JUST LIKE HEAVEN The Cure

38 ( 31 ) PAPER IN FIRE John Cougar Mellencamp

39 ( NEW ) SKELETONS Stevie Wonder

40 ( 45 ) WALK THE DINOSAUR Was (Not Was)

 

41 ( 52 ) THE CIRCUS Erasure

42 ( 26 ) NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP Rick Astley

43 ( 40 ) I JUST CAN’T STOP LOVING YOU Michael Jackson featuring Siedah Garrett

44 ( 60 ) MAYBE TOMORROW UB40

45 ( 64 ) STRONG AS STEEL Five Star

46 ( 39 ) U GOT THE LOOK Prince featuring Sheena Easton

47 ( 30 ) SOMETHING IN YOUR EYES Dusty Springfield & Richard Carpenter

48 ( NEW ) NEED YOU TONIGHT INXS

49 ( 65 ) LOVE IN THE FIRST DEGREE Bananarama

50 ( RE ) BETCHA SAY THAT Gloria Estefan & Miami Sound Machine

 

51 ( 37 ) VALERIE Steve Winwood

52 ( 46 ) IT’S A SIN Pet Shop Boys

53 ( 66 ) DUDE (LOOKS LIKE A LADY) Aerosmith

54 ( 48 ) NEVER LET ME DOWN David Bowie

55 ( 71 ) DINNER WITH GERSHWIN Donna Summer

56 ( 73 ) THE RIGHT STUFF Bryan Ferry

57 ( 44 ) WHEN SMOKEY SINGS ABC

58 ( NEW ) DON’T MAKE ME WAIT FOR LOVE Kenny G

59 ( 55 ) ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE The Beatles

60 ( NEW ) GOT MY MIND SET ON YOU George Harrison

 

61 ( 61 ) NO MEMORY Scarlet Fantastic

62 ( 51 ) ALONE Heart

63 ( 62 ) HUMAN Human League

64 ( 57 ) I STILL HAVEN’T FOUND WHAT I’M LOOKING FOR U2

65 ( 68 ) RAIN IN THE SUMMERTIME The Alarm

66 ( NEW ) BRILLIANT DISGUISE Bruce Springsteen

67 ( NEW ) JACK LE FREAK Chic

68 ( NEW ) I FOUND LOVIN’ Steve Walsh

69 ( NEW ) DANCE LITTLE SISTER Terence Trent D’Arby

70 ( NEW ) WANTED The Style Council

 

71 ( NEW ) REMEMBER ME Cliff Richard

72 ( 34 ) ONE HEARTBEAT Smokey Robinson

73 ( NEW ) DON’T YOU WANT ME Jody Watley

74 ( NEW ) I DON;T THINK THAT MAN SHOULD SLEEP ALONE Ray Parker Jr

75 ( NEW ) MONY MONY Amazulu

 

Playlist oldies of the week

1 LOVE IS ALL THAT MATTERS Human League

2 EAGLE Abba

3 LIVIN’ THING ELO

I incidentally listened to The Cure - Just like Heaven yesterday and thought wow what an amazing song and it has a great opening line, like all great songs have to

From the newies, also like Dance Little Sister, was a big TTD fan, really thought he was gonna be bigger than MJ

also liked the Jody Watley track that didn't do much in the UK charts

and of course Need you Tonight is a classic, bizarre that it flopped first time around in the UK and needed a re-release

Sisters of Mercy were pretty good, I loved all the goth bands from that time, The Cure, The Mission,

and particularly All About Eve, think I discovered them in summer 1987 with Flowers on our Hair and quickly became my favourite band

ever charted them? All About Eve were a mix of folk, goth, indie... so not sure if they were your type of music...

 

I think I was much more eclectic in music taste as a kid than now, back then I liked Madonna and Whitney but also liked All About Eve and Pixies and Stone Roses

and also artists as different as Metallica and Enya :D

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Sisters of Mercy!!! Hadn't got you penned as a fan of them!

 

Ooh I love a bit of Goth and SOM were always good :D

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I incidentally listened to The Cure - Just like Heaven yesterday and thought wow what an amazing song and it has a great opening line, like all great songs have to

From the newies, also like Dance Little Sister, was a big TTD fan, really thought he was gonna be bigger than MJ

also liked the Jody Watley track that didn't do much in the UK charts

and of course Need you Tonight is a classic, bizarre that it flopped first time around in the UK and needed a re-release

 

Hi Bjork :)

 

I havent heard Just Like Heaven in years, time to revisit it! TTD looked like a major new star for about 12 months before he went a bit fishy-not-fleshy in one of the obvious acts of self-harm in music - you build on your rep and following at the start of your career and self-indulge once established!

 

INXS, yes bizarre that it took them ages to catch on in the UK, I was a fan pretty much from hearing their stuff in 1985/6 pre-Kick :o :)

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Never heard of your No.5 by The Other Ones Dandy.

 

Hi Freddie! :lol:

 

It got zero airplay in the UK, give or take Paul Gambaccini's US chart show, but it was the discovery of my California/Arizona holiday a few weeks earlier and reminded me of it by this time (plus I bought the vinyl single and played it a lot)..

 

here it is... :)

 

 

hearing it now the first time in 30 years, it's very jolly & catchy, almost swingbeat-rockpop and nothing like anything else from that time that springs to mind

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Sisters of Mercy were pretty good, I loved all the goth bands from that time, The Cure, The Mission,

and particularly All About Eve, think I discovered them in summer 1987 with Flowers on our Hair and quickly became my favourite band

ever charted them? All About Eve were a mix of folk, goth, indie... so not sure if they were your type of music...

 

I think I was much more eclectic in music taste as a kid than now, back then I liked Madonna and Whitney but also liked All About Eve and Pixies and Stone Roses

and also artists as different as Metallica and Enya :D

 

I loved/liked all those Goth acts, some singles topped my charts or came close, but it depended on the track really - I've always been a musical whore, I'll go with anyone if they put out something that takes my fancy :lol: Metallica have been one of my "never quite hit the spot" acts though, Enter Sandman and errr not much else except variations of Enter Sandman to my ears. The Pixies I never was aware of that much, but the rest all did well in my charts at various times. :)

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25th October 1987

 

It's back on top after a few weeks off for Fleetwood Mac, giving Little Lies a second week on top, keeping the top 4 shuffling about amongst themselves for the 4th week, and only Pet Shop Boys' Rent able to break into the top 5 to try and break-up the chart monopoly of the Big 4. Billy Idol gets a 5th or 6th top 10, as the Amazulu version of Mony Mony makes it 3 top 40 versions in total, including the Tommy James original on re-issue in 1975. Shaky gets a rare top 10 with his good Supremes cover, only his 4th in 7 years of trying, and there are big climbs for George Michael, Bananarama, both into the 20, UB40, Donna Summer, Aerosmith 3 years early for the UK top 40 charts, INXS 1 year early for the UK top 40 charts, George Harrison & Gloria Estefan all adding to their top 40 totals.

 

T'Pau get the highest new entry with China In Your Hands at 43, and it's still not overtaken the brilliant Heart And Soul which should have been the one to top the charts for weeks in my opinion. Meanwhile at 46 The Communards cover the brilliant Gloria Gaynor chart-topping 1974 disco cover of the brilliant Jackson 5 1971 ballad which hit 2 - and falls far short, it being nothing more than a pedestrian shrill karaoke effort. Whitesnake revamp their 80's Here I Go Again and are rewarded with a hit, being as it's their best record by far, Living In A Box make it 4 listings, Labi Siffre makes it a second hit of the year as he marks the 16th anniversary of me first hearing It Must Be Love, Shakatak add to their chart list, just, and Barry White stages a comeback minus the lush disco sounds. Sho You Right, Bazza, 14 years on from his top 10 debut, or 15 years if you count Love Unlimited and his guest vocals on his own song and own production of the group that featured his own wife. That leaves oldies The Champs to make a chart debut, La Bamba film-related I'll wager, some 29 years late, with Tequila. I'll drink to that! It seemed very long ago at the time - but it's less old than 1987 is in 2019. Oops! Time flies!

 

 

1 ( 2 ) LITTLE LIES Fleetwood Mac

2 ( 1 ) YOU WIN AGAIN The Bee Gees

3 ( 3 ) BAD Michael Jackson

4 ( 4 ) PUMP UP THE VOLUME M/A/R/R/S

5 ( 9 ) RENT Pet Shop Boys

6 ( 5 ) HOLIDAY The Other Ones

7 ( 10 ) WHEN THE FINGERS POINT The Christians

8 ( 8 ) CROCKETT’S THEME Jan Hammer

9 ( 12 ) MONY MONY (US SINGLE VERSION/LIVE VERSION) Billy Idol

10 ( 13 ) COME SEE ABOUT ME Shakin’ Stevens

 

11 ( 6 ) WHAT HAVE I DONE (TO DESERVE THIS) Pet Shop Boys & Dusty Springfield

12 ( 26 ) FAITH George Michael

13 ( 18 ) FAMILY AFFAIR/RUNNIN’ AWAY Sly & The Family Stone

14 ( 16 ) MY BAG Lloyd Cole & The Commotions

15 ( 49 ) LOVE IN THE FIRST DEGREE Bananarama

16 ( 7 ) THIS CORROSION Sisters Of Mercy

17 ( 14 ) SUGAR SUGAR (CANDYFLOSS MIX)/(ORIGINAL VERSION) The Archies

18 ( 11 ) I NEED LOVE LL Cool J

19 ( 15 ) CARS (E REG MODEL)/ ARE ‘FRIENDS’ ELECTRIC Gary Numan & Tubeway Army

20 ( 20 ) BEETHOVEN (I LOVE TO LISTEN TO) Eurythmics

 

21 ( 17 ) THE NIGHT YOU MURDERED LOVE ABC

22 ( 44 ) MAYBE TOMORROW UB40

23 ( 55 ) DINNER WITH GERSHWIN Donna Summer

24 ( 27 ) THE REAL THING Jellybean featuring Stephen Dante

25 ( 37 ) JUST LIKE HEAVEN The Cure

26 ( 53 ) DUDE (LOOKS LIKE A LADY) Aerosmith

27 ( 56 ) THE RIGHT STUFF Bryan Ferry

28 ( 33 ) I THINK WE’RE ALONE NOW Tiffany

29 ( 22 ) LOVE CHANGES EVERYTHING Climie Fisher

30 ( 48 ) NEED YOU TONIGHT INXS

 

31 ( 31 ) LOST IN EMOTION Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam

32 ( 75 ) MONY MONY Amazulu

33 ( 32 ) SILVERMAC Westworld

34 ( 41 ) THE CIRCUS Erasure

35 ( 24 ) HEART AND SOUL T’Pau

36 ( 40 ) WALK THE DINOSAUR Was (Not Was)

37 ( 19 ) ONLY IN MY DREAMS Debbie Gibson

38 ( 28 ) LOVE POWER Dionne Warwick & Jeffrey Osbourne

39 ( 60 ) GOT MY MIND SET ON YOU George Harrison

40 ( 50 ) BETCHA SAY THAT Gloria Estefan & Miami Sound Machine

 

41 ( 30 ) I HEARD A RUMOUR Bananarama

42 ( 45 ) STRONG AS STEEL Five Star

43 ( NEW ) CHINA IN YOUR HAND T’Pau

44 ( 23 ) SOME PEOPLE Cliff Richard

45 ( 39 ) SKELETONS Stevie Wonder

46 ( NEW ) NEVER CAN SAY GOODBYE The Communards

47 ( 43 ) I JUST CAN’T STOP LOVING YOU Michael Jackson featuring Siedah Garrett

48 ( 71 ) REMEMBER ME Cliff Richard

49 ( 34 ) I FOUND LOVIN’ The Fatback Band

50 ( 61 ) NO MEMORY Scarlet Fantastic

 

51 ( 47 ) SOMETHING IN YOUR EYES Dusty Springfield & Richard Carpenter

52 ( 69 ) DANCE LITTLE SISTER Terence Trent D’Arby

53 ( NEW ) HERE I GO AGAIN Whitesnake

54 ( 38 ) PAPER IN FIRE John Cougar Mellencamp

55 ( 36 ) HEY MATTHEW Karel Fialka

56 ( 29 ) LET ME BE THE ONE Expose

57 ( 35 ) WHO WILL YOU RUN TO Heart

58 ( 58 ) DON’T MAKE ME WAIT FOR LOVE Kenny G

59 ( 52 ) IT’S A SIN Pet Shop Boys

60 ( 21 ) IT’S OVER Level 42

 

61 ( 25 ) (I’VE HAD THE) TIME OF MY LIFE Jennifer Warnes & Bill Medley

62 ( 54 ) NEVER LET ME DOWN David Bowie

63 ( 70 ) WANTED The Style Council

64 ( 59 ) ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE The Beatles

65 ( 46 ) U GOT THE LOOK Prince featuring Sheena Easton

66 ( 63 ) HUMAN Human League

67 ( 74 ) I DON’T THINK THAT MAN SHOULD SLEEP ALONE Ray Parker Jr

68 ( 57 ) WHEN SMOKEY SINGS ABC

69 ( 64 ) I STILL HAVEN’T FOUND WHAT I’M LOOKING FOR U2

70 ( NEW ) SO THE STORY GOES Living In A Box

 

71 ( NEW ) TEQUILA The Champs

72 ( NEW ) NOTHING’S GONNA CHANGE Labi Siffre

73 ( 62 ) ALONE Heart

74 ( NEW ) MISTER MANIC AND SISTER COOL Shakaktak

75 ( NEW ) SHO YOU RIGHT Barry White

 

 

playlist oldies

1 I FEEL LOVE Donna Summer

2 WALK AWAY FROM LOVE David Ruffin

3 SO YOU WIN AGAIN Hot Chocolate

loved t'pau

the sequence heart and soul-china in your hand, few bands had had better 1st-2nd singles

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loved t'pau

the sequence heart and soul-china in your hand, few bands had had better 1st-2nd singles

 

I even loved the name being a Trek fan since a kid :lol: I saw Carol Decker 3 or 4 years ago and she can still belt 'em out! :)

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