My friend applied for a job in Europe. She got told she would have to apply for a visa over there, come back here, have 5000 USD in her bank account (and as a remainer, she ISN'T part of the elite, so that's a problem), and have health insurance. f***. Sake. Thanks, vidcapper, thaaaanks xxxxx

 

 

I think those requirements for her are quite reasonable. They like to know you have some money in the bank so that you can support yourself if you don't get paid straight away.

They are not reasonable. We used to be able to live and work freely across the entire continent. We now have a massive disadvantage vs every other person in Europe. Thaaanks common sense xxxxx REAAAALLLLLY appreciated xxxxxx We are now second clsss European citizens. Thanks to you. Those requirements were never necessary. Brexshit was never necessary. You, you did this to us!! FOR NO REASON.

They are not reasonable. We used to be able to luve and work freely across the entire continent. We noe have a massive disadvantage vs every other person in Europe. Thaaanks common sense xxxxx REAAAALLLLLY appreciated xxxxxx

 

 

LOL. Besides me 17 million more voted out, a clear majority. You support a change to a majority of votes in the US yet you can't accept a democratic vote here.

51% 20% youth support 2 v 2 nations, 17 out of 66 million = ClEAr MajOriTy.

51% 20% youth support 2 v 2 nations, 17 out of 66 million = ClEAr MajOriTy.

 

 

So the rest should have come out to vote then. Not my fault they didn't.

Not a majority. Not enough for anything. Sorry. Cancel.

 

Quick reminder:

 

It's NOT will erf perperrl, perperl herrv spwerkweerrn, etc. Those are nazi expressions. It fot 51% on one day. Not enough. 2 of 4 countries and Wales only coted leave due to English returees. Not enough. You are hearing BRAINWASHING PROPAGANDA.

 

51% in Norway created the Noreay model, a COMPROMISE.More mature democracies with better democratic systems have overturned 51 48% refs and for less than what leave did too. Soret. 60% ans above is needed to overturn thr status quo, especially when not willing to COMPROMISE and when stripping us of rights WE WANT TO KEEP, EVEN IF YOU LOT WANT TO THROW THEM AWAY.

Another example, in my field of teaching English as a foreign language.

 

Number of jobs in Europe on the main website for TEFL jobs - 225

 

Of those, 156 want EU nationals leaving just 69.

 

We had my daughter's four good friends here for prosseco and pizza last night and they were moaning about us leaving the EU and saying it's going to wreck the country for them and their children. I said "wait a minute, did you all vote remain then I assume? They were all able to vote in 2016. None of them voted so I told them they can't moan when they couldn't be bothered to vote. They said "Rachel didn't vote either, nobody we know did"

 

Just annoys me that these young 'uns couldn't be bothered to get off their backsides and vote for something which could affect all their futures. :rolleyes:

 

The result could easily have been remain if a lot of young people had gone to vote.

 

I tried to assure them their future outside the EU will be fine. :)

Edited January 27, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Young people don't vote in high numbers, which further diminishes the "legitimacy" of brexshit. Sorry.

 

Also:

 

How do you think it is acceptable to go from being able to freely work, including seasonal, to those stringent demands? Flying out to start the visa process, then back, then back out again IF you even get the visa/ job, plus hotels/ hostels/ other transport, is money straight out of someone's pocket. Then the health insurance - and it's not cheap. A lot of these jobs are seasonal, up to 9 months, and often don't pay particularly well. Now, not only does someone have to incur all these costs that they likely won't even earn back, and be at a loss for working, but anyone else on the continent does not have this disadvantage. What happens to these workers then? They return to the uk, as do the pensioners. How is this acceptable?

Young people don't vote in high numbers, which further diminishes the "legitimacy" of brexshit. Sorry.

 

 

Well then they can't moan and say they disagree with the decision that's made by older people then can they? I don't think her friends like me really as I don't work but also as they think I'm "outspoken with some odd views" :rolleyes:

 

I think it should be made compulsory to vote in a referendum.

Edited January 27, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

And the politicians should take it into account. It is a 50 50 split, and not nearly enough for a hard tory brexshit, and so this is a hard right coup :)

 

Also referenda are not something that should even happen in a parliamentary democracy, especially when non-binding ones are giving sovereignty over parliament.

And the politicians should take it into account. It is a 50 50 split, and not nearly enough for a hsrd tory brexshit, and so this is a hard right coup :)

 

 

How can you take in to account votes that were never made?

How can you take in to account votes that were never made?

 

Demographics and polling data. 80% of the youth do not want your brexshit. This is damning. Two COUNTRIES of four do not want it. This is damning.

 

An article on how brexshit has ignited the fires of nationalism, but how brexiters think those will somehow magically be contained to the current UK borders:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2...EGlOF_LgaEWzXN8

 

Like it says, if nationalism and the outdated 1800s model of the nation state is seen as of paramount importance, then what is to stop the Scottish Welsh northern Irish and London people from expressing their own nationalism? The fires are lit. The UK has destroyed the idea of itself by attacking the EU. The EU is a macro model of a FAAAAAR FREER UK anyway.

Young people don't vote in high numbers, which further diminishes the "legitimacy" of brexshit. Sorry.

 

Also:

 

How do you think it is acceptable to go from being able to freely work, including seasonal, to those stringent demands? Flying out to start the visa process, then back, then back out again IF you even get the visa/ job, plus hotels/ hostels/ other transport, is money straight out of someone's pocket. Then the health insurance - and it's not cheap. A lot of these jobs are seasonal, up to 9 months, and often don't pay particularly well. Now, not only does someone have to incur all these costs that they likely won't even earn back, and be at a loss for working, but anyone else on the continent does not have this disadvantage. What happens to these workers then? They return to the uk, as do the pensioners. How is this acceptable?

In terms of other non-EU countries' citizens trying to find a job in EU, you can't go to the country and apply for a visa there. You find a job and get a visa never having to leave your home country (unless you need to do a face-to-face interview or something else which is rare). But it's still a ROYAL pain in the ass not to mention the amount of jobs you can apply for is automatically cut by AT LEAST 90%. It's a long-term commitment and I don't believe organisations will bother sponsoring a visa for a short contract unless you are exceptionally skilled.

In terms of other non-EU countries' citizens trying to find a job in EU, you can't go to the country and apply for a visa there. You find a job and get a visa never having to leave your home country (unless you need to do a face-to-face interview or something else which is rare). But it's still a ROYAL pain in the ass not to mention the amount of jobs you can apply for is automatically cut by AT LEAST 90%. It's a long-term commitment and I don't believe organisations will bother sponsoring a visa for a short contract unless you are exceptionally skilled.

 

That particular job asked that she start the process in their country and then return to the UK to continue it.

 

Am I missing something here? Why do people want to go and work abroad? What's wrong with staying and carving out a career in your own country of birth and supporting the economy there?

 

Please explain the advantages of going abroad. I know retired people go for the sun mainly.

Am I missing something here? Why do people want to go and work abroad? What's wrong with staying and carving out a career in your own country of birth and supporting the economy there?

 

Please explain the advantages of going abroad. I know retired people go for the sun mainly.

 

And this is why you will never understand Remain.

 

I guess if you're somewhere due to accident of birth, you can never leave eh! Even as the tories ruin the country and people keep voting them and doffing their caps to the elite.

That particular job asked that she start the process in their country and then return to the UK to continue it.

Since you guys are still in the EU it is different but usually all the PEASANTS (i.e. citizens from third-world countries like, you know, Russia) have to apply for a tourist visa to even get to Europe which doesn't allow them (us) to do ANYTHING work related at all. And the ONLY way to apply for a work visa is from your home country (or wherever you are living right now legally).

Am I missing something here? Why do people want to go and work abroad? What's wrong with staying and carving out a career in your own country of birth and supporting the economy there?

 

Please explain the advantages of going abroad. I know retired people go for the sun mainly.

Your white middle class privilege is shining brighter than ever. How can you be SO ignorant?

Your white middle class privilege is shining brighter than ever. How can you be SO ignorant?

 

 

Eh? I'm not middle class. Am as poor as a church mouse. My dad was only a gas meter reader and my mum a BT telephone operator.