From NBC's political editor.

 

 

Now I see that leading members of the democrat party are saying that THEY will do all they can to ensure that Sanders does not get to stand against Trump even if he wins the nomination race, and they call themselves 'the democratic party'. They would prefer to inflict damage to their own party than to have a democratic socialist at the head, I'm certain I've come across this contempt for the democratic process before, quite recently and across the Atlantic last November and December.

 

As I said, he's gonna get a taste of 'the Corbyn effect' from the UK. The rich and powerful elite or establishment will NEVER just sit back and allow a socialist to be in a position to push their snouts away from the trough that they believe to be their birth right.

 

We saw 'so called' UK Labour party MPs side with the rich and powerful, even plotting a coup against their own democratically elected leader, putting two fingers up to the vast majority of their membership and most outrageous of all, to democracy.

 

Both the US and the UK demonstrate the utter 'sham' of their democracy, "you can have all the democracy you want so long as it does as it's told", as soon as it strays from the 'acceptable' conditioning then we get a glimpse of the reality of our 'democracies'

 

Good luck Bernie you're going to need it, especially if as expected now you get the nomination.

 

Stay away from underpasses at night and grassy knolls in the day time.

Edited February 28, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

We don't live in democracies, especially in the US and UK. Our democracies are a sham. We live in a neolibreral plutocracy.

The US is supposed to be the biggest Democracy in the world. It's said that any American can grow up and become President.

The US is supposed to be the biggest Democracy in the world. It's said that any American can grow up and become President.

That would be India.

 

The second assertion is, of course, rubbish and always has been.

The 538 forecast suddenly gave Biden a huge jump today and Sanders a huge fall, making it the closest since Iowa. It's now back to predicting Biden doing as well in SC as the predictions looked before the process began. Apparently that's the polls, but sure is strange how the momentum is now against the candidate who won Nevada so strongly. Almost like the media and their Democratic backers are going into overdrive panicking.

 

The Democratic Party needs to nominate the popular choice (Medicare For All is the key, it's simple and the hottest political issue for America), or be broken up. I feel that one of those will happen.

 

 

I suppose a slight positive to come out of this is that its greatly lowering Bloomberg's chances too. But it seems pretty clear now that Bernie is getting less likely to meet the threshold to win the nomination outright and the super delegates will give it to Biden

Yeah, the democratic establishment desperately trying to paint Biden as rhe big winner with momentum when he finished a distant second is just lol. These polls feel VERY Michigan 2016 with the fake polls trying ro boost Hillary. Republicans can and will vote in this primary, though. Maybe they said one thing in public, Bernie, but will vote Joe for maximum chaos now that Bernie is the front-runner.

 

 

That is who the DNC is all in on. Whoever is telling him to run for president is a disgrace.

I suppose a slight positive to come out of this is that its greatly lowering Bloomberg's chances too. But it seems pretty clear now that Bernie is getting less likely to meet the threshold to win the nomination outright and the super delegates will give it to Biden

 

 

That's what will happen if Bernie doesn't win outright.

Definitely suspicious of these South Carolina polls. The DNC desperately claim that Biden's momentum exploded due to a weak 2nd place finish. Ho hmmm :lol: I know that is the narrative they want, but these polls all smell very Michigan fakery 2016. The DNC had rhe fake polls released for Hillary in order to persuade through the bandwagon effect. If Bernie had won South Carolina, he would have outright won the nomination. What better time to fake some polls and give it to the superdelegates?

 

If not a conspiracy, then 2 reasons: 1. Centrists freak out once Bernie has a massive win and rally around one candidate in south carolina, and that candidate being the one they were supporting a few months ago and the 2nd place finisher, or 2. Republicans are voting for Joe, knowing he is suffering from a mental decline and showing synptoms of dementia, in order for the DNC to steal the nomination and guarantee a Trump victory.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunking/status...776288252538881

 

No idea how to embed tweets, so check that out. Massive anti-Semitism vs Bernie from CNN. To think that these were the same people trying to use that vs Bernie's campaign!!! The neolibrals are busy claiming any left wing politician, at the moment a Jewish one at that, is anti-Semitic, whilst they pump out ACTUAL anti-Semitic comments like that!! It's beyond contempt.

The DNC is now so desperate, they have resorted to Republican voter suppression tactics.

 

 

https://twitter.com/JordanChariton/status/1...827915332227072

 

Why were the lines so long? Oh. Well! In counties suspected to go to Bernie, polling stations were shut ... for no reason :)

Definitely suspicious of these South Carolina polls. The DNC desperately claim that Biden's momentum exploded due to a weak 2nd place finish. Ho hmmm :lol: I know that is the narrative they want, but these polls all smell very Michigan fakery 2016. The DNC had rhe fake polls released for Hillary in order to persuade through the bandwagon effect. If Bernie had won South Carolina, he would have outright won the nomination. What better time to fake some polls and give it to the superdelegates?

 

They turned out to be more correct than we feared. Biden won South Carolina with 48% of the vote. Which isn't to say anything about how the polls have been underestimating him, they underestimated Sanders in Nevada and SC was always going to be the state that Biden poured his early money into.

 

Nevertheless, the map looks far less friendly to him than Sanders for Super Tuesday - who's going to be caring about Alabama when Bernie takes California and Texas*?

 

*Texas is the key state though, it still yet could go either way. Millions of votes have already been done early though so won't be affected by any momentum Biden gets from this, and demographically there's no reason to suspect Biden over Sanders there.

Apparently Biden has won every county in South Carolina which Hillary didn't even do in 2016.

 

Tom Steyer is dropping out of the race despite coming third in S.Carolina.

 

Bloomberg has announced he is not standing down despite being told he is enabling Bernie by splitting Joe Bidens vote.

Edited March 1, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

Allegedly the Biden campaign wants Warren and Klobuchar to stay in the race till Super Tuesday as there are signs in Minnesota (Klobuchar's home state) and Massachusetts (Warren's home state) they may block Bernie from winning there, Klobuchar is currently leading in Minnesota by about 5 points.

 

Analysis from NBC:

 

The aim for Biden will be to restrict Bernie's delegate count lead and to finish a clear 2nd place on Tuesday, hoping for the field to narrow and consolidate around him thereafter.

 

Biden might not finish with most delegates, but the hope for the democratic establishment is for Bernie to fail to win a majority of delegates at the convention and for the superdelegates to put Biden over the top.

 

The closer Biden gets to Bernie the more viable that option becomes for the DNC. The NYT reported some very ugly noise coming superdelegates, interviewing 93 of them, almost all saying they personally don't like Bernie Sanders and will not vote for him even if he gets a plurality of delegates. That doesn't bode well for him at a contested convention.

Edited March 1, 20205 yr by Crazy Chris

It would be some delicious irony if Bloomberg did enable a strong Sanders victory on Tuesday.

 

Klobuchar is currently on to win Minnesota but (correct me if I'm wrong any actual Americans) I have this impression of Minnesotans being particularly patriotic to one of their own which is why, and the only reason she's stayed in the race this long has been about making her campaign seem 'homey' for Midwesterners and just about nobody else. Warren will probably lose Massachusetts. No reason for either to drop out yet, and if Warren actually is going to make good with actually being on the left of the party then endorsing Bernie would have a stronger impact if she actually takes part in Super Tuesday, even though she will take a few delegates and waste them.

Bernie knows he has to get an overall majority of delegates to clinch the nomination. If he falls short then the Super-Delegates will give it to Biden if he's second. 93 were interviewed anonymously and most said they disliked Bernie and would vote for Biden to stop him even if that means losing to Trump.

Wait and see. If they give it to Biden -and frankly, forcing him to run in his current mental state is just abuse of the elderly - the Democratic party is finished. It would be a landslide Trump win, and not only because Trump would take Biden apart. The democratic base would stay home after their candidate had an election undemocratically stolen from him AGAIN. Would the dnc be so self-destructive? They want Trump to win for the gravy train to keep on rolling ... but if the party splits in two, that funding starts to dry up. So! We'll see.

Wait and see. If they give it to Biden -and frankly, forcing him to run in his current mental state is just abuse of the elderly -

 

 

What's this about his mental state? Are they just rumours? I admit he doesn't seem to do as well as Bernie in debates but is certainly fitter from all accounts.

What's this about his mental state? Are they just rumours? I admit he doesn't seem to do as well as Bernie in debates but is certainly fitter from all accounts.

 

He's really bad. Check the video I posted above for an example.

Pete Buttigieg has withdrawn ahead of tomorrow’s primaries.

Makes all polls irrelevant. Fnc probably had a hand in it. His supporters are alnost evenly split between Biden and Bernie, but that may change ig more moderates drop out. However, it means Biden will hit 15% in more locations, basically confirming a split convention.