who said anything about playing instruments?

 

amazed anyone can be a Drake stan after Toosie Slide and now the Right Said Fred cover.

I think seeing records broken is cool and interesting. Can't fathom that people follow the charts just to see them carry on in a perfunctory manner where nothing exciting ever happens.

So this Drake takeover is exciting and interesting to you? :/

So this Drake takeover is exciting and interesting to you? :/

Yes? I'll never understand why it works people up so much. If you don't like it, then you get to enjoy seeing it all drop away in the following weeks. I love seeing the extent a new album can break into the chart, and frankly as someone who tends to consume new music, the chart run pattern is much more aligned with how I consume music, rather than say a Glass Animals song that I got bored of literally 12 months ago just now hitting its stride which will continue into 2022. So much of the Hot 100 is controlled by glacial radio chart parabolas that feel so forced and the only reason people tolerate it is because it puts on the illusion of 'organic popularity'.

 

But seeing records broken is cool! It's all arbitrary anyway so no one needs to turn it into a war of generations & eras, just acknowledge it as a statistical mark that serves to potentially be toppled once more in the future. I personally hold over 20+ speedrunning world records and I should hope that no one is discrediting them because they liked the previous record holders more.

For me personally, I couldn't think of anything less exciting and cool than an album of Drake's mediocre, ghost written mumbles occupying the majority of the chart's top 20

Well considering this isn't even the first time that's happened, clearly everyone will move on and be fine once they forget that it happened this time as well

 

(also please don't use the term 'mumble' with regards to rap, it's really grossly loaded)

I don't think people are expecting the charts to carry on in an orderly manner. But there's no denying the mess of what this week's chart looks like. Album bombs are going too far and will only become more frequent until Billboard wake up one day and realize the flaws in this formula.

Well considering this isn't even the first time that's happened, clearly everyone will move on and be fine once they forget that it happened this time as well

 

(also please don't use the term 'mumble' with regards to rap, it's really grossly loaded)

What do you mean grossly loaded? Please don't generalize or put words in my mouth. You don't know me or my life.

What do you mean grossly loaded? Please don't generalize or put words in my mouth. You don't know me or my life.

Grossly loaded in that it's typically used by people who don't understand or see rap music as a subpar form of music, which tends to have bad connotations considering its demographics. You're right that I don't know you, which is why I'm pointing it out so I hopefully don't have to make any judgement.

Hilarious. A hot new album gets arbitrarily called 45,376 singles and the artist gets a new "record" over the real record-holders who achieved the feat with actual physical product. had The Beatles had the same system available then they would of course have done the very same thing every time they released an album, only that would also have been "fake sales" because it's really an album that everybody's just chosen to listen to out of curiosity rather than buy. Except The Beatles also sold bucketloads of albums.

 

Nobody buys Drake stuff, by and large, his listeners prefer not to part with cash to support the new records if they can avoid it and get it for free while doing something more important. Probably. On the shoulders of giants he continues to have a career? Maybe try writing a tune and arrangement and playing instruments by y'self Drakey? Or just release a book of poetry? :P

 

Just a few thoughts.... :teresa:

 

ok, but if you live in the US and talk to anyone under the age of 40, you would understand that drake has a large fanbase and literally no one is listening to his album "out of curiosity"! people listen to his stuff aggressively. weird boomer-y statement to make from someone I always thought of as open-minded

 

also...I don't need to say why "being able to buy physical product from every artist I support is inherently more noble than getting it for free" is a somewhat classist and dated way of thinking

Edited September 16, 20213 yr by dhwhore

Just saying that even if you view these achievements as less 'valid' than the likes of The Beatles' because of them being streaming driven or whatever, Drake's achievements are still notable because if it was so easy for these records to be broken he wouldn't be literally the only person who comes even close to being able to break them. I don't know what it would take for certain people to consider modern chart achievements to be comparable to the old ones (maybe the answer is you just fundamentally can't compare them because of how different the music industry works now but if so I don't really see the value of wading in every time a modern record is broken and bringing up the comparison to the older records, fine if it doesn't interest you, no one is forcing you to join the discussion of them).

Grossly loaded in that it's typically used by people who don't understand or see rap music as a subpar form of music, which tends to have bad connotations considering its demographics. You're right that I don't know you, which is why I'm pointing it out so I hopefully don't have to make any judgement.

OK, but I'm not "people who don't understand or see rap music as subpar". I was commenting on Drake and not rap music in general so don't have a go at me or make out if I'm being offensive or gross to an entire demographic.

 

what bothers me is that Drake is breaking all the records set by musicians that are legends (Michael Jackson, The Beatles to name a few) and I personally just don't see him as iconic nor legendary artist making/setting records in a sense of artistry (it's just my opinion, aight).

 

He basically have fans but how many of these songs are really going to be remembered that broke some sort of records?

 

He did it with his last album, now with his new album and he'll do again with his next album...he's already at 54 Top 10 singles but how many of those people really will know/remember?

 

And that's why for me him breaking all these records feels like some sort of cheating/done way too easily!!!

 

EDIT:

 

And it's not his fault really, anyone would have done the same if they could but it's Billboard who nees to revise and change rules for album bomb releases!!!

 

That's all.

Edited September 16, 20213 yr by addylita

We have the benefit of knowing that The Beatles and Michael Jackson etc. are still relevant and iconic decades after they set their records. Unless you are a time traveller stating that the same won't be true for Drake (at least among his current fanbase - a reminder that The Beatles had a huge teen fanbase as well) is pure guesswork.

 

To be fair this particular Drake album is probably not likely to be remembered too fondly by anyone though lol

We have the benefit of knowing that The Beatles and Michael Jackson etc. are still relevant and iconic decades after they set their records. Unless you are a time traveller stating that the same won't be true for Drake (at least among his current fanbase - a reminder that The Beatles had a huge teen fanbase as well) is pure guesswork.

 

To be fair this particular Drake album is probably not likely to be remembered too fondly by anyone though lol

 

 

I'm not but I'm looking forward to find out lol.

 

Anyways, maybe I am getting old but considering Madonna's staggering 38 Top 10's were done by people listening/requesting her songs on the radio, watching her music videos on TV, buying singles on cassette/cd's, personally it feels it was achieved more rightfully.

 

reminder that popular music in its current form has only been around for 60 odd years, and this expectation that everyone who emerged as icons from the first two or three decades will be venerated until whenever the apocalypse happens is naive

 

also a couple broken chart records won’t hurt them, like I think the MJ and Whitney estates are doing fine lol. like Paul McCartney is still doing pretty well for himself i believe

OK, but I'm not "people who don't understand or see rap music as subpar". I was commenting on Drake and not rap music in general so don't have a go at me or make out if I'm being offensive or gross to an entire demographic.

Yeah it's all good, was just a reminder to avoid language associated with the types of people who are less charitable.

Huge yikes for me with this takeover... I don't think the album is THAT strong to warrant 12 album tracks in the top 14. It is shocking and I believe there are much better songs that should be taking these spots. Glad there is a bit of return to normality in the following week.