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The other day - in her, 'Daily Mirror' Column - Fiona Phillips made out, that 'Class'

has nothing to do with the attention given to Madeleine's case, & the way the Media

treat her Parents. She made out that it would all be the same no matter what

Madeleine's Parents did for a living etc. She said she could not understand the kind

of people who would ever doubt this! (I am TIRED of anyone who sees the TRUTH

in what is going on, being made out to be a bad, or cruel person, & so on!).

 

She works in the Media, she knows damn well that NO previous 'Missing Child' case

has had so much attentiion in the UK, & so much 'Band Wagon' jumping, excuses made

for the Parents, & now we see Gimmick after Gimmick, that - again - shows that this

Case is being treated with far, far more attention than any other UK 'Missing Child'

Case.

 

Do these Media People think that we are all stupid, & that we think that ALL UK

Cases get this attention?

 

Spot on Zeus.... As I have repeated OFTEN in this thread, I've lost count of the amount of posters I've seen on bus shelters and on buses and tubes in London appealing for information on missing kids ageing from 7 to 15.... AND NO BUGGER IN THE SODDING PRESS GIVES A FLYING FUKK ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING CLASS ASIAN AND BLACK KIDS FROM HOUSING ESTATES.... I get so sick of hearing sh!te like this Daily Mirror columnist is spouting that class or race has nothing to do with it.... Do they think we're all bloody stupid or what....? It really makes my blood boil.... :angry: :angry: :angry:

Breaking news. Police are digging in an area not far from where she disappeared, after a Dutch paper received a letter giving details of where Maddy is buried.
Breaking news. Police are digging in an area not far from where she disappeared, after a Dutch paper received a letter giving details of where Maddy is buried.

 

Yeah, read this in yesterdays Sun, it's not even being mentioned on the news though....

Yeah, read this in yesterdays Sun, it's not even being mentioned on the news though....

 

 

 

It's on BBC and ITV Teletext now. :(

It's on BBC and ITV Teletext now. :(

 

Well considering this women who is apperently a physhic told them on Monday I think, so I am suprised it is taking so long to report. I just checked Google news and found nothing. Also, Sky News have'nt mentioned it, and a day rarely goes by when they don't mention her in some way, so hopfully it is not true.

I saw something about this a couple of days ago. I hope it's not the case but to be honest it wouldn't surprise me. I've never been convinced the kid is still alive. :(

YAHOO.CO.UK are reporting it now.. weird how this isn't all over the uk press..

 

 

LISBON (AFP) - Portuguese police Wednesday said they will conduct searches in an area where the body of a four-year-old missing British girl is allegedly hidden, according to an anonymous letter sent to a Dutch newspaper.

 

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The information "has certainly come to the team of investigators," police spokesman Olegario de Sousa told the Lusa news agency, adding that this would be followed up "like all other leads."

 

"If the contents of the letter are sufficient for us to identify the area, we will check it out, as is the case. We will not leave any leads," he told tha Antena 1 radio station from Portimao in southern Portugal.

 

The Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf said Wednesday it had received an anonymous letter giving details of where to find the body of Madeleine McCann, who vanished from the hotel room where she and her two-year-old twin siblings were sleeping in the southern resort town of Praia da Luz on May 3.

 

The daily said the letter was similar to one it received last year which had indicated with some accuracy the site where two missing Belgian girls' bodies were discovered at the end of June.

 

De Telegraaf did not publish the letter, which it handed to Amsterdam police who described it as "important," the paper said. The letter is due to be passed on to Portuguese investigators.

 

Meanwhile, a Norwegian woman who was holidaying in Marrakech when little "Maddie" disappeared in Portugal on Wednesday reaffirmed sighting the child with a man in Morocco.

 

"I am certain it was she (Madeleine) that I saw at a service station in Marrakech," Mari Ollim, 45, who lives in Fuengirola in southern Spain, said in an interview with the newspaper 24 Horas.

 

Ollim claims she saw the girl on May 9, six days after her disappearance, accompanied by a man in the shop of the service station -- a sighting she first reported to authorities on May 22.

 

She described the little girl as "very sweet, blonde, with a pale face, who looked lost. Her eyes were green... she was wearing blue pyjamas," she said.

 

The man with her was about 1.78 metres (five-foot eight inches) tall, thin, between 35 to 40 years old, with short brown hair and a long face, and could have been English or German, according to Ollim.

 

She also claimed the girl asked the man when she could see her mother again and that he murmured to her "soon."

 

Ollim complained that when she returned to Spain and first heard about the girl disappearing from a resort in southern Portugal, she had a hard time getting the attention of authorities in Spain and Britain, and finally was able to send a written report to Portuguese police.

 

Madeleine McCann disappeared from the hotel room while her parents were dining in a restaurant nearby.

 

Kate and Gerry McCann have waged a media campaign to keep attention on their missing daughter and were in Morocco on Monday and Tuesday.

 

 

 

 

Last Updated: Wednesday, 13 June 2007, 20:38 GMT 21:38 UK

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Police probing Madeleine letter

 

Police in Portugal are investigating an anonymous letter and a map claiming to show where missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann's body is buried.

The letter, sent to Dutch paper De Telegraaf, identifies an area 15km (9.3 miles) from where Madeleine vanished.

 

It strongly resembles another letter sent to the same newspaper last year, accurately pinpointing where two missing Belgian girls were buried.

 

Ch Insp Olegario de Sousa said officers were "checking the information".

 

'Everything necessary'

 

The Madeleine letter pinpoints a dirt track north of Odiaxere in the Algarve, according to De Telegraaf.

 

The paper said that the letter claims Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, is buried "north of the road under branches and rocks, around six to seven metres off the road".

 

Beside a cross and two question marks, the sender has written "vermoedelijke vindplaats Madeleine" - the place where Madeleine can probably be found.

 

Portuguese police would not confirm whether they had begun searching the area.

 

But Mr Sousa confirmed Portuguese police were aware of the map and were doing "everything necessary".

 

He said: "There have been exchanges between Dutch police and us.

 

"The information indicated an area 15km from the place of the disappearance of the little child. It is not far from Praia da Luz. We are checking the information like we check everything in this case for importance."

 

Asked if a search would include digging, he replied: "If the information gives us a precise location where we can look, we will do it."

 

Tip-off letter

 

The BBC's Caroline Hawley said it was difficult to assess the reliability of the map, given that Portuguese detectives had received hundreds of tip-offs which have not proved useful in the course of the investigation.

 

Officers also reported that the map was vague, she added.

 

Dutch police are studying similarities between the new letter and one received by De Telegraaf pointing to the whereabouts of Belgian step-sisters Stacey Lemmens, seven, and Nathalie Mahy, 10.

 

The girls were murdered in June 2006 after they disappeared from a late-night fair in the town of Liege.

 

On the day that the letter was received, police found their bodies at the spot indicated on an enclosed map.

 

A convicted paedophile, Abdullah Ait Oud, is now on remand awaiting trial for murder.

 

The Telegraaf believes the letter comes from the same sender because the phrase "vermoedelijke vindplaats" was also used in the tip-off letter last year about Stacey and Nathalie, BBC correspondent Alix Kroeger added.

 

Madeleine disappeared while on holiday with her parents in Praia da Luz on 3 May.

 

It is believed she was abducted from a holiday apartment while her parents ate at a nearby restaurant.

 

Her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, have travelled across Europe in an effort to find her.

 

The couple were also featured in an appeal for information on BBC One's Crimewatch.

 

 

I'm really sorry but I can't be arsed to read all of this thread, I just have to say that I really hope you all arn't feeling sorry for the parents! For two well off people that was a fukking stupid thing to do, if they was chav's you'd all be calling them all sorts of names for acting irresponsible, but 'cos one of them is a surgeon and the other a doctor we feel sorry for them? No, no, no! No parent in their right mind would leave their children alone in a foreign place or even at home! They are to blame for her going missing, not the person that took her, 'cos if they didn't leave her she wouldn't have gone missing! It's all fine and good saying 'well she was only 50 yards away in our site the whole time', well clearly she wasn't was she if she's gone missing!

 

Don't want to say it but.........she ain't alive, if they was being parents she'd still be here now!

 

Lets face it if the police over there would have been any good they would have found her by now....even they said they didn't have the first idea where to start.

I'm really sorry but I can't be arsed to read all of this thread, I just have to say that I really hope you all arn't feeling sorry for the parents! For two well off people that was a fukking stupid thing to do, if they was chav's you'd all be calling them all sorts of names for acting irresponsible, but 'cos one of them is a surgeon and the other a doctor we feel sorry for them? No, no, no! No parent in their right mind would leave their children alone in a foreign place or even at home! They are to blame for her going missing, not the person that took her, 'cos if they didn't leave her she wouldn't have gone missing! It's all fine and good saying 'well she was only 50 yards away in our site the whole time', well clearly she wasn't was she if she's gone missing!

 

Don't want to say it but.........she ain't alive, if they was being parents she'd still be here now!

 

Lets face it if the police over there would have been any good they would have found her by now....even they said they didn't have the first idea where to start.

 

well if you could be arsed you would find 90% of the thread agrees with you ;)

well if you could be arsed you would find 90% of the thread agrees with you ;)

 

Trust me honey I don't think anyone has time for 16 pages.

 

Only 90%....... Well it's better than 10%.

I'm really sorry but I can't be arsed to read all of this thread, I just have to say that I really hope you all arn't feeling sorry for the parents! For two well off people that was a fukking stupid thing to do, if they was chav's you'd all be calling them all sorts of names for acting irresponsible, but 'cos one of them is a surgeon and the other a doctor we feel sorry for them? No, no, no! No parent in their right mind would leave their children alone in a foreign place or even at home! They are to blame for her going missing, not the person that took her, 'cos if they didn't leave her she wouldn't have gone missing! It's all fine and good saying 'well she was only 50 yards away in our site the whole time', well clearly she wasn't was she if she's gone missing!

 

Don't want to say it but.........she ain't alive, if they was being parents she'd still be here now!

 

Lets face it if the police over there would have been any good they would have found her by now....even they said they didn't have the first idea where to start.

 

Spot on Clare....

 

Basically the thrust of the argument is -

 

- These two so-called "parents" were going off and leaving the kids on a more or less regular basis, it certainly was NOT the first time they went to dinner and left the kids alone in the room... Christ, ANYONE watching them would know exactly what their pattern was and how much time they would have to grab Maddie...

- There was an on-site babysitting service that they almost certainly could have used.. Okay, might cost a bit extra, but for two upper middle class doctors who can afford to travel with their three kids to a posh resort it really shouldn't present much of an extra financial burden... Besides, money should be no object when it comes to protecting your kids

- The hypocrisy of the press is astounding, if this had been some working class single mum on a housing estate leaving her kids to nip across the road to the local pub, there would be absolutely no gushy, outpourings of sympathy or suppor, in fact, police or social services would be in there like a shot to take the other kids away into protection; middle-class doctors on the other hand cannot be criticised for their parenting skills it seems.... <_<

- The fact that they're jetting around all over Europe (and I really dont give a sh!t what the fukkin' reasons are....), having tea and biscuits with the sodding Pope AND TOTALLY IGNORING THEIR OTHER TWO KIDS, seems to be utterly disgusting behaviour IMO.... What kind of parent does this.....?

- The Press hysteria surrounding this is something else that disgusts most of us as well.... Why are we focussing so much attention on a girl going missing in Portugal when over a thousand kids between the ages of 6 and 14 have gone missing off the streets of Britain in the past year...? The only time I ever see or hear anything about those other kids is when I see posters on bus shelters, tubes, etc appealing for information - NOT plastered all over the press, NOT on TV news progs, NOT on sodding "Crimewatch"...... Cant have anything to do with the fact that most of these other kids are Asian, black and from poor, disadvantaged backgrounds, could it....Naaaaaaaaaah..... <_< <_<

 

Spot on Clare....

 

Basically the thrust of the argument is -

 

- These two so-called "parents" were going off and leaving the kids on a more or less regular basis, it certainly was NOT the first time they went to dinner and left the kids alone in the room... Christ, ANYONE watching them would know exactly what their pattern was and how much time they would have to grab Maddie...

- There was an on-site babysitting service that they almost certainly could have used.. Okay, might cost a bit extra, but for two upper middle class doctors who can afford to travel with their three kids to a posh resort it really shouldn't present much of an extra financial burden... Besides, money should be no object when it comes to protecting your kids

- The hypocrisy of the press is astounding, if this had been some working class single mum on a housing estate leaving her kids to nip across the road to the local pub, there would be absolutely no gushy, outpourings of sympathy or suppor, in fact, police or social services would be in there like a shot to take the other kids away into protection; middle-class doctors on the other hand cannot be criticised for their parenting skills it seems.... <_<

- The fact that they're jetting around all over Europe (and I really dont give a sh!t what the fukkin' reasons are....), having tea and biscuits with the sodding Pope AND TOTALLY IGNORING THEIR OTHER TWO KIDS, seems to be utterly disgusting behaviour IMO.... What kind of parent does this.....?

- The Press hysteria surrounding this is something else that disgusts most of us as well.... Why are we focussing so much attention on a girl going missing in Portugal when over a thousand kids between the ages of 6 and 14 have gone missing off the streets of Britain in the past year...? The only time I ever see or hear anything about those other kids is when I see posters on bus shelters, tubes, etc appealing for information - NOT plastered all over the press, NOT on TV news progs, NOT on sodding "Crimewatch"...... Cant have anything to do with the fact that most of these other kids are Asian, black and from poor, disadvantaged backgrounds, could it....Naaaaaaaaaah..... <_< <_<

 

What really p!ssed me off about these parents as well was the happy photo they had taken looking all happy and looking like they counldn't give a sh!t she's gone, that was a front page photo, how wrong does that look!?

 

It's only high profile cos of the parents having money, it has nothing to do with colour, age yes.

 

It's only high profile cos of the parents having money, it has nothing to do with colour, age yes.

 

I certainly believe that it's a Social Class thing, that surely cannot be questioned... And I'm not fully convinced that race doesn't play a part in it either.... Like I say, the vast majority of the kids that I've seen Police posters for around the areas that I lived in were Asian or Black (and mostly Estate kids as well...), and not a single one of them so much as made the inside of a large circulation newspaper or a spot on the BBC London News progs, let alone the sort of blanket coverage Maddie's getting.... Sure, we can look to the cases of Damilola Taylor and Victoria Climbie, but those are different - those were actual MURDER cases (the press always love a good murder let's face it....), this is Missing Persons.... Totally different circumstances.....

 

I certainly believe that it's a Social Class thing, that surely cannot be questioned... And I'm not fully convinced that race doesn't play a part in it either.... Like I say, the vast majority of the kids that I've seen Police posters for around the areas that I lived in were Asian or Black (and mostly Estate kids as well...), and not a single one of them so much as made the inside of a large circulation newspaper or a spot on the BBC London News progs, let alone the sort of blanket coverage Maddie's getting.... Sure, we can look to the cases of Damilola Taylor and Victoria Climbie, but those are different - those were actual MURDER cases (the press always love a good murder let's face it....), this is Missing Persons.... Totally different circumstances.....

 

 

dunno scott... kids off estates have always gone missing, this little girl was taken from the sanctity of her bed whilst on holiday,and thats the difference and why its newsworthy.... if she was black then im sure it would have the same coverage...

I certainly believe that it's a Social Class thing, that surely cannot be questioned... And I'm not fully convinced that race doesn't play a part in it either.... Like I say, the vast majority of the kids that I've seen Police posters for around the areas that I lived in were Asian or Black (and mostly Estate kids as well...), and not a single one of them so much as made the inside of a large circulation newspaper or a spot on the BBC London News progs, let alone the sort of blanket coverage Maddie's getting.... Sure, we can look to the cases of Damilola Taylor and Victoria Climbie, but those are different - those were actual MURDER cases (the press always love a good murder let's face it....), this is Missing Persons.... Totally different circumstances.....

 

 

Children go missing everyday, hundreds in London they can't keep tabs on them all. So you're telling me that all white kids that go missing end up the paper everyday where you are? You're going off Holly and Jessica, and now Madeleine, who are all white...As Rob said if Madeleine was black she'd be all over the news.........

 

 

Disagree, the reason why Madeleine's face is splashed all over the papers every day is because she is angelic and reminds grandparents about their grandkids etc, if it was a black kid or an asian kid or even an ugly white kid then this story would have long since disappeared off the tickers it is because Madeleine is blonde, blue eyed and angelic that it has remained such a big story in The Sun and the Daily Mail and so on
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