To answer the point about who knew the kids were left unattended, someone could have been watching them for days. They'd left them to dine with other Dr. couples apparently for several nights running between the same times. Maybe someone knew their routine. I don't honestly think the parents have done it. Why would they?

 

Well, seeing as how the police are drawing blanks with their normal enquiries, perhaps they should be looking at "other options" start to think the unthinkable.... People dont actually need a reason to kill Chris, they just do it.... And you talk as if this has never ever happened before, it has.. So what is the reason....? Nobody really wants to know, we just lock these people up and forget about them so we dont have to face any difficult questions about ourselves and what we ourselves might be capable of given the right (or wrong, depending on how you look at it) set of circumstances.... Why do parents, relatives, etc abuse their own children, nieces, nephews, etc...? Find an answer to that and you might find an answer as to why a parent might kill one of their own....

 

We cant afford to be naive or innocent about this, this stuff happens mate, as depraved as it is, it is a fact of life.... "Stranger Danger" was one of the biggest lies ever told to my generation, the facts are only a tiny percentage of kids are abused by "strangers".. According to revised, modern law enforcement statistics, kids were only prepared for something like 10% of the possible dangers that do exist by this campaign, the other 90% comes from family friends, relations, parents themselves.....

Could be either/or let's face it Craig, wouldn't exactly be the first time a parent has killed a child, would it....? <_< Of course it certainly could be a member of staff kidnapping the kid to sell to some filthy p****.... Police should be looking at both options as they are by far the most likely. Like I said, just how many people would know that the parents didn;t use the resort's babysitting service....? This is not a crime of opportunity....

 

Yeah its not impossible for sure, it is certainly something the police should be looking into

 

I really do not expect her to be found alive now tbh

Yeah but she could have gone to the supermarket with her parents earlier in the day or previously etc

 

Plus entry to the apartment they were staying at was forced and the girl would not have the strength to do that

 

 

why was entry forced when the parents said they left the door open??

why was entry forced when the parents said they left the door open??

 

I read in one of the papers that the window or was it the door or something was forced open :unsure:

Well, seeing as how the police are drawing blanks with their normal enquiries, perhaps they should be looking at "other options" start to think the unthinkable.... People dont actually need a reason to kill Chris, they just do it.... And you talk as if this has never ever happened before, it has.. So what is the reason....? Nobody really wants to know, we just lock these people up and forget about them so we dont have to face any difficult questions about ourselves and what we ourselves might be capable of given the right (or wrong, depending on how you look at it) set of circumstances.... Why do parents, relatives, etc abuse their own children, nieces, nephews, etc...? Find an answer to that and you might find an answer as to why a parent might kill one of their own....

 

We cant afford to be naive or innocent about this, this stuff happens mate, as depraved as it is, it is a fact of life.... "Stranger Danger" was one of the biggest lies ever told to my generation, the facts are only a tiny percentage of kids are abused by "strangers".. According to revised, modern law enforcement statistics, kids were only prepared for something like 10% of the possible dangers that do exist by this campaign, the other 90% comes from family friends, relations, parents themselves.....

 

 

The father annoys me a lot but don't really know why. Seems rather smug sometimes. Just a hunch Grimley but I don't think they're involved. May be wrong though but I'd be very surprised if they are. There's virtually universal condemnation for them on most of the newspaper site messageboards but suppose they're being shielded from all that. Think they should see it actually.

GMTV angers me a lot too. Again this morning, just after 6.30, not Fiona but another lass "those poor parents, just a small oversight on their part and now maybe a lifetime of torment not knowing" Sorry GMTV but give us a break. Leaving three kids that age is NOT just an oversight. :angry: :angry:

Edited May 14, 200718 yr by coolchris

If a parent would be stupid enough to leave their kids after this then they really don't deserve to have any.

 

but sometimes they are snatched from the apparent safety of their own home...

Disagree partly Rob, there have been many cases of boys being abused, remember Jason Swift for instance ? so I don't think that paedophilia is a purely male on female thing then add all the choirboys abused by catholic priests and even Hindley and Brady killed boys as well as girls so I doubt that if this was the case and it is a p**** that the boys would have been any safer

 

 

oh i agree.... but most paedos are men after girls

Man being questioned and villa 150 yards from complex being searched

 

Robert Murat his name

^ ooo i'v just heard, hope that she is alive

They have him but not her so sounds ominous :(

 

Swimming pool drained so dunno what that is about

Last Updated: Monday, 14 May 2007, 20:00 GMT 21:00 UK

Villa searched in Madeleine hunt

BBC News

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42924000/jpg/_42924815_portugalhouse_pa203b.jpg

The single-storey building is known as Casa Liliana

 

A detailed search is under way at a villa 150 yards from the apartment where Madeleine McCann went missing.

Police are reportedly questioning more than one person, but no-one has been arrested following the search in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

 

The BBC's correspondent Jane Hill, who is in the Algarve resort, said the villa, known as Casa Liliana, was the first to be sealed off during the hunt.

 

Four-year-old Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared on 3 May.

 

Ms Hill said the single-storey villa was owned by a British woman named Jenny Murat and that her son Robert was a frequent visitor.

Mrs Murat, who is believed to be 71 and a widow, has been running a stall on the seafront in Praia da Luz, appealing for information from the public about Madeleine's disappearance.

 

Local media are reporting that the search has been going on since dawn, she added.

At least one forensic officer has been seen at the property.

Searches had been scaled back in the area immediately around where Madeleine disappeared.

 

The focus had shifted instead to an international child abduction inquiry, amid suggestions she may have been taken out of Portugal.

 

Resilience

 

Earlier, Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann said they would not return home to the UK until she was found safe and well.

 

As the building was being searched, the British ambassador to Portugal, John Buck, spoke outside the resort.

 

He said the McCanns were showing "remarkable resilience and dignity in very distressing circumstances".

He also said there were "impressive resources" being devoted to the investigation by the Portuguese authorities.

"When I spoke to the chief investigating officer today he said that the collaboration between the Portuguese and British police was truly exceptional," Mr Buck added.

Mr McCann said the couple would continue to believe their child was being cared for until they received "concrete evidence to the contrary".

And he said he and his wife had drawn "tremendous strength from the warmth and the spiritual outpouring" the couple had received "here and from all around the world".

 

Fighting fund

 

Rewards of £2.5m have been offered to anyone with information leading to the four-year-old's safe return

 

A "fighting fund" to which members of the public can donate to help in the search for Madeleine is also being set up by her family's lawyers.

The legal team, which has flown out to Portugal, will reveal details of the fund within the next few days.

Foreign Minister Margaret Beckett said her Portuguese counterpart was "very concerned" about the "difficult and terrible situation" the McCanns are facing.

"I think we're all very conscious, what we want is to get as much as attention to Madeleine's case as possible because what we want is to get her back," she said.

 

In the UK, a text message urging mothers to pray for Madeleine's safe return to her family is being passed on by mobile phone and in internet forums.

 

Portuguese police have declined to confirm or deny reports about any possible leads, citing judicial secrecy law.

The international number for Crime stoppers is +44 1883 731 336. People with information about Madeleine can call anonymously.

He has a glass eye. :blink:

 

 

Do you know, I was just talking to a work colleague today about the case. I said that if she had been abducted I reckoned it was someone who lived very close. Either in an adjacent apartment or in a nearby house. That's always the way of it.... <_<

According to Sky News he is divorced with a 4 year old daughter who looks very similar to Madelaine :|

Probably be a false alarm. <_<

Madeleine Case: Who Is Bob Murat?

Updated: 21:03, Monday May 14, 2007

 

Robert Murat is a well known figure among journalists.

He worked as a translator for the local police and was on good terms with them.

 

Robert MuratHe told reporters he had been in the McCann's apartment in the aftermath of the abduction, translating for the police.

 

Mr Murat, who is believed to have a four-year-old daughter in Norfolk, also worked as a fixer for Sky News for several days.

 

But among journalists he was regarded with suspicion.

 

A joke began spreading among the press pack that he was the "prime suspect".

 

And the joke spread to Mr Murat as well, with him introducing himself as the chief suspect, Sky's Ian Woods said in Portugal.

 

Woods took him aside and pressed him as to why he was so involved in the case.

 

"He told me he had an estranged wife and a daughter and he was upset because Madeleine reminded him of his daughter," Woods said.

 

"People began to ask who he was. After a few days people were getting a bit suspicious as to who he was and why he was around so much.

 

"I asked him to do an interview but he refused, which was unusual because everyone was happy to do an interview."

 

Woods asked twice if Murat could do an interview for Sky News.

 

Woods said Murat left the area a few days ago because he had become concerned about the attention he was receiving.

 

"He became very spooked by the news photographers who were taking pictures of him," Woods said.

 

"He became uncomfortable with the amount of attention he was getting.

 

"He told me he was going to withdraw from the scene because he felt he was becoming a distraction."

 

Murat lived in an apartment with his mother Jennifer, who is a long-time Algarve resident.

 

She had set up a stall near on the sea front and asked people who did not want to give information to police to come to her.

 

"She cut a slightly pathetic figure," said Sky News crime correspondent Martin Brunt.

 

 

Sky Breaking News

Briton's Villa Searched In Madeleine Case

Updated: 21:14, Monday May 14, 2007

 

The home of a British man is being searched by police looking for missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann, who disappeared in Portugal on May 3.

 

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1535716.jpg

The man, Robert Murat (pictured), has been taken to a police station.

 

His mother has told Sky News that he has not been arrested. She said no trace of Madeleine had been found at the villa.

Portuguese police said that more than one person was being questioned but that no one had been formally arrested.

 

The property is just 150 yards from the apartment where Madeleine's family were staying, in the southern Portuguese resort of Praia Da Luz.

The house, known as Casa Liliana, was sealed off with tape by police while men in white suits and masks began a search inside. They are believed to have drained the villa's swimming pool.

 

Police guards were on the doors outside.

 

Sky News Correspondent Ian Woods said the property being searched belonged to British woman Jennifer Murat and her son Robert Murat.

Mr Murat has been assisting journalists in their coverage of the disappearance of the four-year-old British girl.

 

He was pictured on Sky News during the search for Madeleine wearing a light-coloured shirt and dark glasses. Sunday Mirror journalist Lori Campbell alerted police over her suspicions about him.

Woods said: "Robert Murat has been very well known to the media from day one because I have been asking for anyone who was a good Portuguese speaker to come to the scene.

"He had been acting for three or four days as an interpreter and a go-between with the police."

 

Woods added that Mr Murat had joked about how he had become the prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

 

 

Ms Campbell told Sky: "It was just very reminiscent of the Soham murders, that was my first thought. He was hanging around, asking us questions and maybe trying to find out what we knew."

She said that when she alerted Portuguese police that a man had raised her suspicions, they said "we know who you are talking about" before she had mentioned his name.

Mr Murat is believed to have a good relationship with local police and has been seen laughing and joking with them. He told journalists that he was interested in the case of the missing girl because he has a four-year-old daughter of his own who looks similar to Madeleine.

 

He is believed to be separated from his wife, who is thought to live in Norfolk with their daughter.

 

Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt described how he had spoken to Mr Murat's mother about the search.

Brunt said: "She's obviously very shaken. She says her son hasn't been arrested but has been taken to the main police station."

She said that no trace of Madeleine had been found and that she expected police to make a statement confirming this.

 

Gaynor De Jesus, who has been working as a translator for Sky News, went to school with Mr Murat and played with him as a child, but had not seen him for years until last week.

She said: "I do know that he has been the official translator for the police. All witness accounts, everything that's been coming into them, he has had first-hand information."

 

Madeleine was taken from the apartment where her family had been staying while on holiday, sparking a massive police investigation and a worldwide media appeal.

 

Sky news are just unbelievable when it comes to exadurating things. When this news first broke, the jorunalist seemed shocked as to why they would be searching this man's house, now suddenly he is saying how many people have been suspcious of this man and how he seemed strange etc. Anything to make things more dramatic. :rolleyes:

 

Sadly if this man did take her, then she's most most likley dead, but hopefully not.

 

At least there is some progress finally though. What happened with the story about the couple who were seen taking pics of kids on a beach and then later spotted in a shop with a little girl who looked like Maddy? :unsure:

Doesn't look like she is in the villa anyway. :(

Agree in general with what you say Kelly but short of having a kid on a lead like a dog it is hard to keep an eye on them 24/7, look at supermarkets for instance, kids are always running around and running off in supermarkets and can end up seperated from their mum, likewise kids are away from their parents at school and so on, yes the parents in this case were irresponsible and stupid but if Madeleine had run off from the parents in Asda and got snatched would that make them bad parents ?

I agree with the notion that it's difficult to keep track of them 24/7, as anyone with kids will testify to, but there's a HUGE difference between going out a for a meal and leaving THREE of your toddler children in your apartment to your child wandering into the frozen food section of ASDA.

 

So in short, no if she had of ran off in a Supermarket they wouldn't be bad parents, but then again the second they noticed the child was missing they would inform staff and there would be a complete lockdown on the entire place. -_-

 

Someone told me that there are rumours circulating that she it was all premeditated and she was actually "made to order" on some paedophile site or something? :unsure: