You're clearly on the old vino again mate, so I'll ignore your petty reply.....

 

 

lol.. maybe... but my point still stands.... how hard is it to read a clearly addressed envelope and count the letters addressed to a house?

 

 

lol.. maybe... but my point still stands.... how hard is it to read a clearly addressed envelope and count the letters addressed to a house?

 

When you're under time constraints and management is breathing down your neck to do the delivery in "good time", mistakes can be made, especially when you're new to the job, I made PLENTY of mistakes in my first few months working for Royal Mail.. Or maybe you think I'm some sort of "thicko" as well.... <_<

 

Taking your comments personally maybe...? Fukkin' right I am......

sorry scott but i too have had to work under time constraints, you either pull your finger out or you dont. sink or swim. you do what you need to do to get the friggin job done.... try being self employed m8... to me reading whats on an envelope and counting (usually whats less then the fingers on one hand...just to make it easy...lol) seems like a relitavely easy task compared to measuring, setting out, and marking an 8 lane 400m running track in 4 hours..

........ by yourself.

sorry scott but i too have had to work under time constraints, you either pull your finger out or you dont. sink or swim. you do what you need to do to get the friggin job done.... try being self employed m8... to me reading whats on an envelope and counting (usually whats less then the fingers on one hand...just to make it easy...lol) seems like a relitavely easy task compared to measuring, setting out, and marking an 8 lane 400m running track in 4 hours..

 

Okay, try doing a mail round in an area full of tenement blocks where the stairwells are poorly lit, and the fukkin' r*t**** who live there a) cant be arsed to change a fukkin' lightbulb (which is bloody dangerous in the winter months because you can easily fall and have an accident, WHICH I DID ONCE AND HAD TO STAY OFF WORK FOR A MONTH WITH A FUKKIN' SPRAINED ANKLE.....) and B, cant be fukkin' arsed to put a name-plate on a door... See if YOU'RE so clever then mate.... <_< <_< And, I think I have said this before, I AM SELF-EMPLOYED!!!!! As an Academic Support Worker, I have to do my own taxes......

Okay, try doing a mail round in an area full of tenement blocks where the stairwells are poorly lit, and the fukkin' r*t**** who live there a) cant be arsed to change a fukkin' lightbulb (which is bloody dangerous in the winter months because you can easily fall and have an accident, WHICH I DID ONCE AND HAD TO STAY OFF WORK FOR A MONTH WITH A FUKKIN' SPRAINED ANKLE.....) and B, cant be fukkin' arsed to put a name-plate on a door... See if YOU'RE so clever then mate.... <_< <_< And, I think I have said this before, I AM SELF-EMPLOYED!!!!! As an Academic Support Worker, I have to do my own taxes......

 

 

but scott... MY postmen work in an average street, where numbers are clearly on the door and the sun shines.. ie daylight... whats their excuse for delivering a letter thats clearly addressed to #46 to #42 ?????? SHEER INCOMPETANCE.

 

if i was injured and off work id get FCUK ALL off the state, the benefits system ive paid into since 1973... yet johnny foreigner who decides to milk this stupid country gets it all... ok im over stating it, but this IS the crux of many an englishmans gripe.

but scott... MY postmen work in an average street, where numbers are clearly on the door and the sun shines.. ie daylight... whats their excuse for delivering a letter thats clearly addressed to #46 to #42 ?????? SHEER INCOMPETANCE.

 

if i was injured and off work id get FCUK ALL off the state, the benefits system ive paid into since 1973... yet johnny foreigner who decides to milk this stupid country gets it all... ok im over stating it, but this IS the crux of many an englishmans gripe.

 

I think you are over-stating the case somewhat dude, seeing as how this thread is actually about ROYAL MAIL.... :lol: :lol:

 

And I'm sorry, but I still think you're being too quick to rush into judgement of the individual Postie themselves.... If you had the same guy doing your round for the past 10 years and he was constantly making mistakes, then I reckon you could argue as to their competance, but if you're getting a different bloke every other week who's had minimal training, then that's not really their fault, it's the fault of the company for cutting corners as far as training goes and not having a regular postie doing the same round every day, which is they way it should be.... Do you actually KNOW who your Postie even is...? My own customers on my route got used to seeing me every day, and actually missed me when I was off sick or on holiday.... THIS is how a Postal Delivery service should be run, and it WAS run that way for bloody decades..... Until THIS Govt came in and totally fukked it all up..... <_<

ill give you that, in as much that you should have a regular postie... but even so, reading and counting is kids stuff m8...

 

if i get a job im unfamiliar with, then i assess it ... surely it aint rocket science to walk down a road and shove letters through the correct door... if theres no numbers, or poorly lit like you say in a tennemant, fair does... but suburbia?

ill give you that, in as much that you should have a regular postie... but even so, reading and counting is kids stuff m8...

 

if i get a job im unfamiliar with, then i assess it ...

 

You probably have the time to "assess" it mate in your line of work... Posties can be shoved onto different delivery areas at a moment's notice, especially if they are temps or "floaters" with no regular route.. How can they possibly assess it if they've never seen the area or know the streets...? Seriously mate, apply for a six month temp contract with Royal Mail, see if you think it's "kid's stuff"...... Bet you couldn't even last a week given the shambolic state of the company these days, I guarantee you wont have any kind of meaningful training or even given the chance to "buddy-up" with a more experienced Postie to get a proper feel of the job, you'll be thrown in at the deep end and expected to just "do it".... If you think that is any kind of way to run an important, vital public service then you are totally off your head mate..... Would you just give a new bus driver an A to Z and say to them "off you pop, and good luck mate"....???

no comparison re buses.

 

it sounds like posties are a thick bunch of whingers tbh...lol. training? what training? sorry but i just dont buy this at all... surely its common sense to walk up and down a street putting the correct letters through the correct doors! that sounds bloody easy to me compared to what i do. i get no 'training', i make all my own decisions, get no sick or holiday pay and deals with different customers daily. i just pull my fcukin finger out and get the job done.

no comparison re buses.

 

it sounds like posties are a thick bunch of whingers tbh...lol. training? what training? sorry but i just dont buy this at all... surely its common sense to walk up and down a street putting the correct letters through the correct doors! that sounds bloody easy to me compared to what i do. i get no 'training', i make all my own decisions, get no sick or holiday pay and deals with different customers daily. i just pull my fcukin finger out and get the job done.

 

I take it you dont have the guts to take up my challenge then.... :P :lol: Seriously, I AM challenging you to do it, to see if you think it's all so bloody easy.... Go on, you chicken or summat......? :lol:

 

You dont know anything about the job, you seem to think it's some sort of fukkin' paper round or summat.... You're just like most of the public out there mate, just making idle assumptions that you think you know what you're talking about, I could just as easily say "all you do is paint a few lines on a track or mow a few lawns, how hard can that be....?" about your job. Bet you dont even know that Posties have to sign the Official Secrets Act. And I bet you don't know that Posties have to actually SORT mail as well when it comes to the delivery office to break it down into the individual delivery sectors and routes (all the "sorting machines" actually do is break up the mail into the correct Delivery Offices, it still has to be broken down even further when it gets to the actual office itself, most sorting still has to be done MANUALLY...), and prepare it for delivery on a special frame which has all the street names and numbers on it.. You probably think that is all done by a machine don't you....? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I just love watching you two bicker.

 

I'd like to add my two pennies worth in that I agree with Grimly (that it is a hard job etc - my aunt did it so i know a bit about it) and I think my postie is very good. Post came at 9 this morning, its rarely later and we always get the right mail.

I just love watching you two bicker.

 

I'd like to add my two pennies worth in that I agree with Grimly (that it is a hard job etc - my aunt did it so i know a bit about it) and I think my postie is very good. Post came at 9 this morning, its rarely later and we always get the right mail.

 

Thank you Jark... The people who do actually know what it really entails don't tend to come on and start mouthing off about how "easy" they imagine the job is... And that's all it is, assumptions and imagination on their part ("oh, it's just sticking a few letters through a door", yeah, course it is...), not based on any reality of the job itself or knowledge of it... People like yourself who do know more about what it entails dont tend to make such blase statements about it....

 

Would I be right in assuming your Postie is probably the same person who's been delivering mail to your door for years....?

 

Indeed ^_^ For as long as I can recall!

Delivering thousands of letters to thousands of addresses daily, which all have to be collected, sorted, swung from coast to coast is far from easy, and mistakes will happen. I mean come on people get more tax credits than they should because someone doing a far EASIER job of typing in a few numbers to a screen messed up ^_^.

 

So therefore we need to rise up and applaud Postman Pat and the Royal Mail :cheer:

 

(P.S. I still HATE the ideas of strikes though - just thought I'd slip that one in)

training?... surely all they need to do is READ what address is actually on the fcukin letter! i see no excuse for my neighbour getting my mail when a letter is properly addressed.

 

 

I've heard rumours that if you complain here in East London and the supervisor rollicks them and mentions your adress then they get revenge and bin some of your mail for a few days. So is it worth complaining if some are devious like that? :angry:

Edited July 9, 200718 yr by coolchris

Delivering thousands of letters to thousands of addresses daily, which all have to be collected, sorted, swung from coast to coast is far from easy, and mistakes will happen. I mean come on people get more tax credits than they should because someone doing a far EASIER job of typing in a few numbers to a screen messed up ^_^.

 

So therefore we need to rise up and applaud Postman Pat and the Royal Mail :cheer:

 

(P.S. I still HATE the ideas of strikes though - just thought I'd slip that one in)

 

 

Yeah but come on, going down our street putting No 2's letters in 4, theirs in No. 6 and so on all the way down our road. Is that acceptable? That's not on by anyone's standards,even for rookie postmen with little or no training. How much training do they need to read a number and put it in the right numbered house. Surely it's common sense? I caught him one day and he asked me to give my neighbour his mail then. :angry: WTF. That's not my job. It's his. :angry: :angry: Some people may not pass them to their neighbour but just bin them instead. Luckily ours both sides do. Some of that could be important mail too. There's just no excuse for it. We had a great guy called Peter for years but he had an accident so works inside now. This never ever happened with him.I spoke to him when I went for a parcel and he says they take the phone off the hook some mornings as it's ringing non-stop with complaints. I know the job's hard as I was a postie once. The bags are heavy but still I used to do it right and they should. There are obviously sorting problems too as our road is the same name as one in North London but different postcode obviously. We keep getting their mail.

Edited July 9, 200718 yr by coolchris

I've heard rumours that if you complain here in East London and the supervisor rollicks them and mentions your adress then they get revenge and bin some of your mail for a few days. So is it worth complaining if some are devious like that? :angry:

 

Would that be the Bethnal Green delivery office by any chance...? I had serious problems with them when I lived in Hackney (me and my flatmate and the Turkish guys who owned the shop next door to us were having mail and packages go missing...), and, as is often the case, it was TEMP Posties on short-term contracts with little or no training causing all of the grief.... I don't even remember seeing the same Postie on my street from one week to the next... I live in Camden now, no probs whatsoever with deliveries and it's the same guy been doing the job round here since I moved in 18 months ago.....

scott..... i wasnt on about sorting, although how hard can that be? as coolchris highlighted, its about clearly addressed evelopes in the wrong friggin door! THAT for all your eloquent spouting is the salient point that you have NOT yet addressed! yes a bloody kid COULD do that! its sheer incompetance, its unprofessional and you have still yet to tell me something i didnt know!... my point stands.

There was a few cases recently in this area where some posties were hiding the mail in their houses cause they couldn't be bothered delivering it. I mean come on, if you can't hack this complex job then get a simpler one like collecting trolleys for a supermarket. There was even a case where one guy actually reposted them in a pillar box cause he couldn't be bothered. :lol:

 

Not mine I may add. Current person is fine but previous ones have been terrible.