They weren't adequately punished though. Should have been locked up and the key thrown away. Sorry but that's my opinion. :angry:

Do you believe all the actions you took at the age of 10 were correct and sensible? Do you think you should have been given a long-term punishment (where warranted) for them even if you would have probably regretted and learned your lesson later in life?

Do you believe all the actions you took at the age of 10 were correct and sensible? Do you think you should have been given a long-term punishment (where warranted) for them even if you would have probably regretted and learned your lesson later in life?

 

 

Well I never murdered anyone though.

 

Yeah a great life Jamie Bulger is having being eaten by worms in a graveyard and a great life Denise Bulger and her partner are having :rolleyes:

 

The fact is he went out and killed a THREE year old boy, he did not go out and kill a 10 year old or a 14 year old or anything, he killed a 3 year old so that shows that he is most danger to toddlers as opposed to teenagers etc ! unless you have access to his psychaitric records you can't prove otherwise

Christ, it's a good job half of you lot aren't running the country - we'd have the death penalty and everything, living in a nanny state! It was over fifteen years ago for god's sake! He's spent eight years in prison! That may not seem much in comparison with other sentences but every single day for eight years of your life spent in prison - can you even begin to imagine what that must have been like? 2922 mornings, afternoons and evenings spent with nothing to think about but what you've done?

 

None of us could even begin to contemplate the hell he must go through every day of his life, which he isn't even a third of the way through. For the past 15 years and next 50 he'll have to suffer that. It's worse than any prison sentence. To take away his rights as a human being is just cold-hearted! If you want to castrate him, not let him marry etc, he may as well have been killed as the punishment for his crime because that would be no kind of life.

I have never ever once had any inclination to kill anyone of any age, the urge has never entered my head

 

Therefore I can't answer that question as I have never had the mindset to kill

TBH I doubt they had intended to kill him. Torture him, probably, while still a sick thing it isn't out of the ordinary for children to do the sorts of things which involve them in positions of power - they relished the feeling of having someone completely at their mercy and under their control, and took advantage of it before it went horribly wrong. That may not have been how it went but IMO I believe that is what probably happened.

Well I doubt he would have been let out if it had been judged he was still a threat to toddlers ;)

 

Probation officers are by and large bearded sandal wearing, lentil eating liberal politically correct do gooders who blame murder on broken homes and upbringing, I suspect that they wanted to give these 2 another chance, if they f*** up then the do gooders are going to be as responsible as Thompson and Venables should one of them reoffend

How the heck is he going through hell now? He's free to do like everyone else, work, have friends, marry, have kids. How is he suffering now? He isn't.

Edited July 22, 200717 yr by Crazychris

TBH I doubt they had intended to kill him. Torture him, probably, while still a sick thing it isn't out of the ordinary for children to do the sorts of things which involve them in positions of power - they relished the feeling of having someone completely at their mercy and under their control, and took advantage of it before it went horribly wrong. That may not have been how it went but IMO I believe that is what probably happened.

 

I honnestly can't beilieve you are trying to justify their actions. I also highly doubt you would feel the same if you were the dad of the boy the murdered

 

Well I never murdered anyone though.

Had you unintentionally murdered someone though (and I doubt they intentionally murdered him) would you consider a lifelong punishment such as castration or not being allowed to marry fair when you already have to live with the terrible consequences of your mistake every day of your life and when you have already had 8 years of regret while imprisoned? Do you not think he has learned his lesson, that he would be allowed out of prison if he was still a threat?

How the heck is he going through hell now? He's free to do like everyone else, work, have friends, marry, have kids. How is he suffering now? He isn't.

Oh, dear god! Do you not think he is guilt-ridden beyond words and utterly horrified at his crime? Do you not think he has shown remorse? You think every day since then has just been 'ooh, nice morning :D what to do today'? Of course the guy bloody well suffers!

I honnestly can't beilieve you are trying to justify their actions. I also highly doubt you would feel the same if you were the dad of the boy the murdered

I am not trying to justify their actions. I am trying to justify why they should not still be punished for something which was probably a mistake (should someone be given a lifelong punishment for manslaughter?) and not be allowed to marry/bear children. People change.

None of us could even begin to contemplate the hell he must go through every day of his life, which he isn't even a third of the way through. For the past 15 years and next 50 he'll have to suffer that. It's worse than any prison sentence. To take away his rights as a human being is just cold-hearted! If you want to castrate him, not let him marry etc, he may as well have been killed as the punishment for his crime because that would be no kind of life.

 

I am anti death penalty ;)

 

 

What about the hell Mr and Mrs Bulger have to go through for the rest of their lives ? I am far more concerned about their hell than Venables or Thompson's hell, they have to suffer every second for the rest of their lives so the wellbeing and rights of Thompson and Venables is of minor importance for me, and you bang on about human rights, what about the rights of Jamie Bulger to have lived ? what about the rights of Mr and Mrs Bulger ? they had a right to watch their child grow up and have a healthy life and celebrate birthdays and christmas' and so on with him and for him to live to a ripe old age, the human rights of the Bulger family far outweigh those of Jamie Bulger's killers

 

 

 

How is he suffering now? He isn't.

So do you think he doesn't feel any remorse, any regret for his stupid actions? He has to live knowing that he was responsible for the death of another person. I doubt it sits easily on his conscience or that a day goes by without him remembering and regretting what he has done.

Oh, dear god! Do you not think he is guilt-ridden beyond words and utterly horrified at his crime? Do you not think he has shown remorse? You think every day since then has just been 'ooh, nice morning :D what to do today'? Of course the guy bloody well suffers!

 

 

Oh give me a break. How do you know he's been suffering? He may have but I bet he hasn't been. I'd bet my house that he's never given James a second thought.

Edited July 22, 200717 yr by Crazychris

Oh give me a break. How do you know he's been suffering? He may have but I bet he hasn't been. I'd bet my house that he he's never given James a second thought.

I bet i've never read 4 sentences more ridiculous than that.

I bet i've never read 4 sentences more ridiculous than that.

 

 

Why ridiculous? If they'd had any remorse they'd have both topped themselves after being released. Done society a service. They should have been banged up until the day they died. Simple as that.

Edited July 22, 200717 yr by Crazychris

Probation officers are by and large bearded sandal wearing, lentil eating liberal politically correct do gooders who blame murder on broken homes and upbringing

Is it not often shown that bullies often pick up their dirty habits from being bullied themselves? I don't know exactly what happened to them in their broken homes, but if they were abused I have no doubt whatsoever they were only re-enacting their abuse on someone else and that it went horribly wrong. I'm not trying to justify the murder, I believe that the bullying and behaviour which led to Bulger's death was despicable, but for all you know the fact they were from a broken home may have contributed to the murder.

I'd bet my house that he's never given James a second thought.

You would lose it :rolleyes: You don't think that he didn't at all think about James while he was in prison?

Why ridiculous? If they'd had any remorse they'd have both topped themselves after being released. Done society a service. They should have been banged up until the day they died. Simple as that.

One can show remorse without killing oneself -_-

Why ridiculous? If they'd had any remorse they'd have both topped themselves after being released. Done society a service. They should have been banged up until the day they died. Simple as that.

If they'd topped themselves there'd be people saying 'they've taken the easy way out', blah blah. The point of a sentence in prison is to learn remorse for your crime so simply to take the shortcut out and top themselves would be beyond daft.

 

You clearly underestimate the hell they must go through like I said, every single damn day. Im not saying I pity them, but that remorse they feel is a worse punishment than any spell in jail.

So do you think he doesn't feel any remorse, any regret for his stupid actions? He has to live knowing that he was responsible for the death of another person. I doubt it sits easily on his conscience or that a day goes by without him remembering and regretting what he has done.

 

As a few trusted friends on here know I caused the death of someone very dear to me by an act of negligence, there isn't a fukkin day that goes by where I don't analyse everything that lead to that death in great detail and wish I could turn back the clock and do things differently, I have to live with what happened and the fact I was negligent and could have changed things and maybe the person had not died but I have a CONSCIENCE and I have never MURDERED anyone, I very much doubt any murderer has a moral conscience and I very much doubt that Thompson and Venables think much about what they did as they have no conscience if they were capable of murder