Posted August 24, 200717 yr Courses like .....drama, media studies, sociology and golf course management. And any other nonsense degrees that bring no benefit to humanity. Maths, chemistry, physics,biology,engineering....they're the real degrees. If scrapping these courses is too harsh then downgrade them to a modular level. Want to learn horse psychology? Then get a vetinary degree and do an extra module in this. Anyone agree with this?
August 24, 200717 yr What tosh :lol: I agree there are some ridiculous degrees, but surely the point is people are doing SOMETHING to try and better themselves. There are so many no-hopers and losers in this country, I commend anyone who goes out there to try and get a degree in anything to try and improve their quality of life. And why is media studies nonsense? Could you imagine the world today without the media? You may not like it, but if EVERYONE who graduated did do with a scientific-sort of degree, there'd be NO jobs available.
August 25, 200717 yr Media studies and sociology aren't the big jokes they're made out to be...and a course in drama may be seen as a joke but can you imagine a world without the theatre or film?
August 25, 200717 yr What tosh :lol: I agree there are some ridiculous degrees, but surely the point is people are doing SOMETHING to try and better themselves. There are so many no-hopers and losers in this country, I commend anyone who goes out there to try and get a degree in anything to try and improve their quality of life. And why is media studies nonsense? Could you imagine the world today without the media? You may not like it, but if EVERYONE who graduated did do with a scientific-sort of degree, there'd be NO jobs available. hmm... does the qualification have to be a 'degree' though? maybe this qualification is being 'dumbed down'? i agree about bettering themselves.
August 25, 200717 yr I disagree totally about media studies that is a valuable course and I do think you are being a bit snobbish and elitist here Brian. What good is a degree in engineering or chemistry if you want to be a journalist or actor or golf course greenkeeper for instance ? I would rather someone was spending 3 or 4 years studying a subject that you consider low standard and apply themselves than to see them sit around on the dole or whatever. Let them study what they want, it is them that are getting into thousands of pounds of student debt etc so I don't see the problem here, I really do think you are being a snob here Brian Edited August 25, 200717 yr by Vic Vega
August 25, 200717 yr I don't think media studies and sociology are pointless, and as for the other things they can't be that pointless.
August 25, 200717 yr Wow, you take the view that uneducated people who think media studies is prancing around watching TV would take. How is Maths any better than Media? There's probably more jobs to be had out of the latter...
August 25, 200717 yr It's ridiculous to say some of those courses should be scrapped. As people have already said here, someone wanting to be a journalist would be much better served taking a media course than a maths course.
August 25, 200717 yr Yeah sociology is a barmy degree, which is why many goverment policies are best on socilogical research. To be honnest some university degress are silly, but most of the ones you mentioned should be scrapped are worthwhile degrees.
August 25, 200717 yr Frankly, I think you're targetting the wrong courses here... What about those rather pointless "classical" courses they teach at Oxford and Cambridge...? Ancient Greek Philosophy?? Roman Architecture?? And then these chinless, upper middle class tw@ts go out and get jobs at the BBC or as Journalists when what they studied has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH THE JOB, but they get the job, well, simply because they went to sodding Oxford or Cambridge.... <_< <_< And then, some working class kid with a First in Media Studies can only get a job at bloody McDonalds because they didn't go to the "right university" because mummy and daddy aren't rich enough...... No, I think THIS is what we should be much more scandalised by, not particular courses........
August 25, 200717 yr The more courses the better. As people's lifes are more diverse it seems appropriate that education should be in line with that.
August 25, 200717 yr Frankly, I think you're targetting the wrong courses here... What about those rather pointless "classical" courses they teach at Oxford and Cambridge...? Ancient Greek Philosophy?? Roman Architecture?? And then these chinless, upper middle class tw@ts go out and get jobs at the BBC or as Journalists when what they studied has absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH THE JOB, but they get the job, well, simply because they went to sodding Oxford or Cambridge.... <_< <_< And then, some working class kid with a First in Media Studies can only get a job at bloody McDonalds because they didn't go to the "right university" because mummy and daddy aren't rich enough...... No, I think THIS is what we should be much more scandalised by, not particular courses........ I agree with most of what you say but I disagree with the Rich/Poor thing Universities seem to be coming more and more like inner London councils in the sense that upper middle class students are being rejected by uni's in favour of ethnic minorities or those from poor backgrounds like there is some sort of quota system in place so poor and ethnic students have far more opportunities to get into uni than ever before
August 25, 200717 yr Courses like .....drama, media studies, sociology i find that insulting. those are the subjects i am/want to study.
August 25, 200717 yr I get your point, but you've highlighted the completely wrong courses. :wacko: Drama and Sociology are by no means "tosh". Golf management or whatever it is, maybe, but drama and Sociology are taught to secondary school goers and at A Level, so they're certainly not pointless degrees. -_-
August 25, 200717 yr Drama isn't a ''barmy'' degree it all, neither is Music, they are just as academic as english, science etc. perhaps Sociology/Media is less so, but if people want to persue degree's in those then good on them. Degrees such as ''golf management'' and others you mentioned may best be suited to becomming ceritifications instead of degrees, but to say a subject like drama is ''barmy'' is quite baffling imo, considering it's been taught and practiced for how many hundreds/thousands of years?
August 25, 200717 yr Frankly, I think you're targetting the wrong courses here... What about those rather pointless "classical" courses they teach at Oxford and Cambridge...? Ancient Greek Philosophy?? Roman Architecture?? EXCELLENT point. I've also found it odd that the media snobs who complain about uselessness of media studies and the like have never stopped to consider what precisely philosophy and classics add to society and the economy. It's like they just assume because it's traditional it's automatically worth keeping, and anything new must immediately be frowned upon as "dumbing down".
August 25, 200717 yr Yeah our very own future king studied "History of Art" at uni, I mean wtf ? way less important than media studies in the job market, don't see you mentioning that course anywhere Brian Edited August 25, 200717 yr by Vic Vega
August 25, 200717 yr Author Yeah our very own future king studied "History of Art" at uni, I mean wtf ? way less important than media studies in the job market, don't see you mentioning that course anywhere Brian I only picked a few at random, didn't do a scientific study -_- , maybe picked the wrong ones but the point is still valid, too many courses don't lead to worthwhile productive jobs at the end, we can't have everyone doing the soft option courses,or we will just have media graduates and nothing else. ps I am no snob -_- Anyway University is not the only road to success, most of us never go there and still succeed if we try hard enough
August 25, 200717 yr I was present when a top lecturer from one of the Universities came to speak to A Level students thinking about what courses to do and he said that if anyone was considering Journalism as a career, it would be better for them if they didn't take Media Studies, but one of the more 'traditional' subjects. He mentioned engineering as an example and said that a prospective employer would look more highly on that and it would be more useful.
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