i dont read the papers, i too trust the bbc are probably the best scource of news.

Tbh I think the police are doing a dam good job, comming down harsh on the McCannes, something that the Uk Police and Government wouldn't do. :rolleyes: I've been "brainwashing" my mates, they all agree with me now. :lol: I do personally think and still do think that the McCannes are responsible or behind this. The blood samples found in the car ARE Madeleine's (100% Proven), It was reported that the McCannes 'dissapeared' for half an hour, Portuguese Police who have bugged McCannes phone calls and emails say that what they heard/read have made their minds change to putting them as suspects etc.

 

Josh, as I said before, DO NOT believe the bloody Sun newspaper. It is a complete and utter JOKE of a paper, that is in no way factual. They claim the BLOOD that was found in the car was 100% Maddie, this has since been accounced as being complete bull$h!t. All that was found was bodily fluids - not blood - matching Madeleine 88%, and that info came from Sky News, so still not yet fully accurate. Now as far as I know these are the very same results the police got last week, and then gave the car back to the McCannes. This is not new evidence, it's the same the police had when they made them suspects. If her blood was 100% found in the car, thend on't you think they would've been arrested or charged, especially if the police are doing such a 'damn good job"?

 

You are letting the Sun influence you opinion, and will seemingly believe anything that is said that makes the parents look guilty. The Sun also, claim that the reason from the Police's U-turn was to to 'Phone-tap evidence'. Now surely, if they somehow were heard in a phonecall admitting to being involved, they would've been arrested/charged stright away? How you can claim the police are doing such a great job, whilst believing what the Sun say happened is beyond me, as clearly if what the Sun were saying was true, then the police clearly are not doing a good job at all?

 

Most of what is said about this entire case is mostly speculation, and if I were to believe any of it, then I would obviously believe the McCanns 100% did it, but I don't, I'm certainly not saying they were 100% definatly not involved, how do I know? How do any of us know? But the fact is that far to many people are jumping to conclusions about all of this, and believing anything they read, and clearly not putting things into perpective. The evidence has now been sent to a judge, my person opinion is, if this evidence is strong enough to be sent to a judge, then why was'nt it strong enough to actually charge them?

...And now we have ELEVEN deluded posters who still believe they are totally "innocent" of any wrongdoing or responsibility despite all the evidence... Christ, I seriously wonder about some people....

 

Tbh mate, I very much doubt people are voting 'no' with the opinion that they are not to blame for leaving her, I recken those who have voted 'no' are doing so because they don't believe they killed her, even though that may not be what the poll was intended for as it was made before they were made suspects.

Tbh mate, I very much doubt people are voting 'no' with the opinion that they are not to blame for leaving her, I recken those who have voted 'no' are doing so because they don't believe they killed her, even though that may not be what the poll was intended for as it was made before they were made suspects.

 

Well, I see the whole "responsibility" angle as being not merely about whether they actually killed her or not.. For me, they are "responsible" in the fact that they were negligent and created the conditions for whatever happened to happen.. I mean, if they aint responsible for their own kid's welfare and well-being, then who is...? So, I find it incredibly insulting when people say they weren't responsible in any way - their kid, their responsibility, simple as....

Considering you can't even spell McCann, I think the fact this post is presumptuous garbage speaks for itself, but I will just say that it has not been any way 100% proven the blood samples were Madeleine's.

 

I think that Josh is spelling it "McCannes" deliberately Danny, as in the Cannes film festival, as in media, glitz, glamour, celebrity. To me, he's making a point about the McCanns high media profile and the way they've deliberately garnered all this press attention and acted like they were film stars or summat... I think Josh is being very deliberate, and actually quite clever. IF he is making this point, then I agree with him, the McCanns are the worst Media Whores imaginable, even Max Clifford's not stepped in yet to try and "represent" them, that should speak volumes in itself, nice to see even he has some standards...

 

Or maybe I'm wrong, and he just cant spell.... :lol:

Well, I see the whole "responsibility" angle as being not merely about whether they actually killed her or not.. For me, they are "responsible" in the fact that they were negligent and created the conditions for whatever happened to happen.. I mean, if they aint responsible for their own kid's welfare and well-being, then who is...? So, I find it incredibly insulting when people say they weren't responsible in any way - their kid, their responsibility, simple as....

 

absolutely.... that is the undisputable fact.

The parents of Madeleine McCann are considering commissioning independent forensic tests on the hire car that they used in Portugal.

A friend of the family says the car is being kept in a "safe place" after it emerged that earlier police tests had uncovered DNA evidence.

 

Kate and Gerry McCann are waiting for a judge to decide if they face charges.

 

A family spokesman said they will not use money raised for the Find Madeleine fund to pay for their legal expenses.

from: bbc news

 

I dunno what i think about this. And from what I have heard about them using the money from the fund, i thought they had to get permission to use it by someone i dunno, so i dunno if they have been told they can't use it or what.

 

I know it may be cynicial but isn't what Gerry does by touching his ear like that A TELL TALE sign of lying? I know its only 30 seconds but...

The thing is i don't get is that they have questioned Kate and Gerry McCann and they are suspects, yet they are still able to come back to England, surely this is bad policing or not actually enough evidence to back their claims, which to me the whole thing is confusing in itself and something isn't right, that's why i haven't got involved with any of the discussions before.

The thing is i don't get is that they have questioned Kate and Gerry McCann and they are suspects, yet they are still able to come back to England, surely this is bad policing or not actually enough evidence to back their claims, which to me the whole thing is confusing in itself and something isn't right, that's why i haven't got involved with any of the discussions before.

 

the Portuguese legal system is quite different though, it just seems that the police over there for the time being anyway, used the arguido status of them both to ask more questions that they were forbidden to do so beforehand. It also gives the McCann's legal rights to, to have representation, and the right to remain silent.

 

I don't think body language is anything to go by :P Just as DNA alone cannot be used as evidence in a case.

 

The Portuguese police seem to have a rather large net, but don't quite know where to sling it, in the off chance they're wrong :unsure: God forbid that, with the way the British media have protrayed them so far.

as much as i wish this is false, i do have to say that it is a bit weird that they found her hair in the boot of the car that they hired 25 days AFTER she went missing

MORE evidence found, hair has been found in the boot. There's so much evidence saying they did it and hardly any saying they didn't. And it's about bloody time the media has 'turnt against them'. :lol:

as much as i wish this is false, i do have to say that it is a bit weird that they found her hair in the boot of the car that they hired 25 days AFTER she went missing

... and also a bit weird how blood samples have been found, the strange/fishy behaviour of the parents, how no one saw them for half an hour at that night, and how a 3 year old child if kidnapped would do it's best to alarm everyone and be heard, yet she wasn't (which is to WHY I think the parents sedated her).

the Portuguese legal system is quite different though, it just seems that the police over there for the time being anyway, used the arguido status of them both to ask more questions that they were forbidden to do so beforehand. It also gives the McCann's legal rights to, to have representation, and the right to remain silent.

 

I don't think body language is anything to go by :P Just as DNA alone cannot be used as evidence in a case.

 

The Portuguese police seem to have a rather large net, but don't quite know where to sling it, in the off chance they're wrong :unsure: God forbid that, with the way the British media have protrayed them so far.

 

wow! thanks for explaining that to me, i reckon this will end up being an unsolved case.

again..... hair or blood in the car is not evidence that maddy was there. she was part of a family that all will have traces of maddy on them. this could easily be secondary deposit, especially hair, brought in by any of the family.

Tbh Josh, I'm finding your posts a little bit disturbing. You seem to be hoping that it was the McCanns that did, meaning you're effectively hoping that Madeleine is definitely dead.

 

There's so much evidence saying they did it and hardly any saying they didn't.

I think this actually is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Unless the committer of a crime has been confirmed, it's pretty damn hard for there to be evidence stating that someone DIDN'T do it! Technically, there's no evidence stating YOU didn't do it, or that I didn't do it. I guess by your logic, the whole world should be named suspects.

Tbh Josh, I'm finding your posts a little bit disturbing. You seem to be hoping that it was the McCanns that did, meaning you're effectively hoping that Madeleine is definitely dead.

I think this actually is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Unless the committer of a crime has been confirmed, it's pretty damn hard for there to be evidence stating that someone DIDN'T do it! Technically, there's no evidence stating YOU didn't do it, or that I didn't do it. I guess by your logic, the whole world should be named suspects.

 

well said!

Tbh Josh, I'm finding your posts a little bit disturbing. You seem to be hoping that it was the McCanns that did, meaning you're effectively hoping that Madeleine is definitely dead.

WHY would I want or hope that the McCanns did it? :rolleyes: My theory is is that they DID do it, just like your theory's and thoughts is that they didn't. :rolleyes: It's also a bit stupid in saying that Im hoping for a 3 year old girl I've never met and never will meet for her to be dead. Tbh I couldn't care if she was found dead or alive, it's not going to affect my personal life. :rolleyes:

Tbh I couldn't care if she was found dead or alive, it's not going to affect my personal life. :rolleyes:

Well, I think that says it all. And don't think I'm saying you should spend every waking hour mourning her, because obviously that's just stupid, but to say you're really not bothered either way is pretty strange tbh. If I woke up one day and it was on the news she'd been found safe (the chances of which are obviously slim to non), I'd be a little bit happier for the rest of the day. OK, I wouldn't exactly throw a party or anything, but to say "it's not going to affect my personal life" just looks very selfish.

Well, I think that says it all. And don't think I'm saying you should spend every waking hour mourning her, because obviously that's just stupid, but to say you're really not bothered either way is pretty strange tbh. If I woke up one day and it was on the news she'd been found safe (the chances of which are obviously slim to non), I'd be a little bit happier for the rest of the day. OK, I wouldn't exactly throw a party or anything, but to say "it's not going to affect my personal life" just looks very selfish.

Sorry but is the world supose to give emotions to overhyped media story's?

 

Ok if she was found ALIVE then of course I'd be like, "Few but dam Hey, I was wrong afterall" but if she was found dead then it really wouldn't come as a shock to me.