October 1, 200717 yr All sorts of things can be distractions Matt in cars Children fighting or arguing on the back seats, MASSIVE distraction to the driver Crying baby in the back, again MASSIVE disctraction to the driver Sat nav's, cd's, radio's, bars of chocolate, drinks are no more of a distraction to the driver than cigarettes are Talking is a distraction too Maybe if we are going to ban smoking in cars (I am a non smoker) then ban food, music, children, talking and so on as they are all just as big a distractions as smoking are Edited October 1, 200717 yr by Vic Vega
October 1, 200717 yr All sorts of things can be distractions Matt in cars Children fighting or arguing on the back seats, MASSIVE distraction to the driver Crying baby in the back, again MASSIVE disctraction to the driver Sat nav's, cd's, radio's, bars of chocolate, drinks are no more of a distraction to the driver than cigarettes are Talking is a distraction too Maybe if we are going to ban smoking in cars (I am a non smoker) then ban food, music, children, talking and so on as they are all just as big a distractions as smoking are :lol: if you ever run for PM and thats a policy you have my vote :P
October 1, 200717 yr I drive with 1 hand on the wheel at all times, the other hand is permanantly on the gear stick as that is the most comfortable driving style for me and I have had 1 accident in 24 years of driving and that was caused by a deer so I dispute the fact that you need 2 hands on the wheel at all times, only time I have 2 hands on the wheel (25-2/3 position) is if there is wet weather and I might have to use some opposite lock or if there is cross winds again might have to use some opposite lock. I would call myself an above average to exceptional driver and I totally dispute the need to keep 2 hands on the wheel at all times, never have since I been driving Over 70% of drivers think they are "better than average". By definition, a lot of them are wrong. If you drive the way you do in a test, you will fail.
October 1, 200717 yr Over 70% of drivers think they are "better than average". By definition, a lot of them are wrong. If you drive the way you do in a test, you will fail. Tests are the equivalent of performing seals jumping through hoops, not a benchmark of driver ability Its quite horrifying that a 17 year old can pass their test and then go unsupervised on a motorway, dual carriageway, in extreme weather conditions and so on, don't confuse passing a test with someone who does being a better driver than a long term driver just because they use the "10 to 2" position on a steering wheel ;)
October 1, 200717 yr Many distractions whilst driving but am sure read research ages ago into how having things like music & food kept you more alert as having to think about more than the white lines on the road. (will attempt to find said research ....) Have been driving 20 years and only had 1 crash and it wasn't my fault. I also drive with hands at 10 to 2 ..... very reminiscent of a little old lady :blush: but nearest come to causing a crash was when toddler hoody escaped car seat in back and jumped on me :o ...... so am tempted to agree with banning kids :P Having said that dropping a lit fag in your lap could be VERY distracting. Would it be so unreasonable to expect drivers to use their common sense?
October 2, 200717 yr In the event of a blowout it is again safer to use 1 hand, if you have 1 hand on the gearstick engage neutral or 1st gear, apply the handbrake 2 or 3 times to scrub off speed without locking the wheels and steer into the skids with 1 hand, don't need 2 hands in that situation really id then suggest that you have never been in a situation where one side of the car is suddenly slowed, be it blow out or hitting something. the violant pull on the steering wheel would have you rolling long before you had time to even think about changing gear, one hand certainly isnt enough. wether you do it or not, its not as safe as using 2 hands. id also suggest that your attitude would be different if you ever had your kids in the car. my attitude towards driving changed when i was responsable for my kids safety, quite rightly so too.
October 2, 200717 yr As any racing driver would tell you Rob and they are by far the world's best drivers the #1 priority in the event of a sudden car failure is to scrub off as much speed as possible, yes steering control is extremely important but scrubbing off speed is by far the biggest priority as have to prepare for the possibility of an impact for instance with the central reservation or another vehicle. A racing driver's instinct in the event of a blowout is scrubbing speed hence my point about working the gearstick and the handbrake to slow the car down as much as possible.
October 2, 200717 yr I fukking learning that it's already gone up to 50 fukking questions. I haven't actually read the thread, just the title. Edited October 2, 200717 yr by Daylight Dancer
October 2, 200717 yr As any racing driver would tell you Rob and they are by far the world's best drivers the #1 priority in the event of a sudden car failure is to scrub off as much speed as possible, yes steering control is extremely important but scrubbing off speed is by far the biggest priority as have to prepare for the possibility of an impact for instance with the central reservation or another vehicle. A racing driver's instinct in the event of a blowout is scrubbing speed hence my point about working the gearstick and the handbrake to slow the car down as much as possible. and therein lies the problem testosterone fuel males thinking they are 'racing drivers' on the countries roads. there is a well researched REASON why after nearly 100 years of motoring the experts suggest that two hands are better then one.... craig, if your wheel hits something at speed you havnt got time to change down gear, even if your hand is ready on the stick, the wheel is removed from your hand in an instant and your vehicle is already out of control. yes using your gears is the correct way to slow down, but that only works IF you are in full control (which you arnt if you hit something), and you have time to think.
October 2, 200717 yr Well smoking allows you to relax and you shouldn't relax when you're driving, so it makes sense really. Plus it'll reduce the amount of occurances where people's fag buts don't go out of the window properly :lol:
October 3, 200717 yr I haven't actually read the thread, just the title. at the risk of sounding rude - this line seems to feature in all your posts in this forum? Why come here if you aren't going to bother read the thread? but then I am sure anyone, other than you, posting such a comment would get very short shrift :rolleyes:
October 3, 200717 yr at the risk of sounding rude - this line seems to feature in all your posts in this forum? Why come here if you aren't going to bother read the thread? but then I am sure anyone, other than you, posting such a comment would get very short shrift :rolleyes: yep, they probably would :P if scott or a gm want to say owt its up to them...
October 3, 200717 yr at the risk of sounding rude - this line seems to feature in all your posts in this forum? Why come here if you aren't going to bother read the thread? but then I am sure anyone, other than you, posting such a comment would get very short shrift :rolleyes: Omg I am so sorry. Please hold on while I go into a corner and cry.
October 3, 200717 yr I think it's necessary. Very necessary actually. It IS a distraction, your mind is on something OTHER than the road for two seconds. When smoking, your focus is on getting the cigarette in your mouth, not what's on the road. =/ Like someone else mentioned, it makes you relaxed and when driving you need to be very alert and cautious. I can only think of good things coming from this.
October 4, 200717 yr I'd like to see them try and police this one :| no more difficult then policing the moby ban....
October 4, 200717 yr Author Well smoking allows you to relax and you shouldn't relax when you're driving, so it makes sense really. :blink: :blink: :blink: who told you that? Smoking, far from relaxing you, actually makes the smoker more alert (that's the whole idea of nicotine :rolleyes: ) - wherever did you hear that it's 'relaxing'? :huh: :huh:
October 4, 200717 yr :blink: :blink: :blink: who told you that? Smoking, far from relaxing you, actually makes the smoker more alert (that's the whole idea of nicotine :rolleyes: ) - wherever did you hear that it's 'relaxing'? :huh: :huh: When I used to smoke I found it very relaxing, I wouldn't say I found myself more alert from smoking while reading lets say if anything it did put me off. It's only down to getting the fag out of the pack and finding your lighter, that's all I'd say was distracting.
October 4, 200717 yr Author tbh russ i was under the impression that you smoke to relax, not to wake up! nicotine is a stimulant - subconsciously, the satisfying of the craving can 'relax' the smoker - but the actual nicotine 'buzz' is an 'upper' if you like....
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