October 5, 200717 yr Sack the lot of them I say and bring the army in to do the job. They'll be back to work like a shot. They make me sick. Want want want. Me Me Me. What about the public they're inconveniencing. Oh and I have worked as a postman in the 80's. Easy job, finish at 12. *sits back to await scotts reply! lol *
October 5, 200717 yr Easy job, finish at 12. ..and start at 4am.... Still an eight hour day innit....? Pillock.... I was a postie from '97 - 2002, totally different job to the one YOU did in the 80s.. As all the "old hands" who'd been there a hell of a lot longer than me informed me of.... You were a postie when it still actually was a real Public Service... As usual, another ill-informed post..... -_- I wont even dignify the rest of your ridiculous post with a response.....
October 5, 200717 yr I'm waiting for my Hollyoaks Hunks calender the silly buggers. Well, somehow I think you will manage to get it before 1st Jan 2008, so dont panic..... :lol:
October 5, 200717 yr If I was prime minister I would bring in legislation banning members of essential services (rail workers, transport/logistics workers, dustnmen, fuel depot workers, nuclear facilities workers, police, prison officers, postmen, airline staff, army, firemen, doctors, nurses etc etc) from striking, the smooth running of the economy and the infrastructure of this country is essential I am sick of people working in areas that are essential for the smooth running of the economy thinking they have everyone over a barrel and therefore use the public as pawns in their little games (not all the industries listed above behave that way I am not singling them out just giving examples of people who should be banned from striking for the greater good of the smooth running of this country) Edited October 5, 200717 yr by Vic Vega
October 5, 200717 yr If I was prime minister I would bring in legislation banning members of essential services (rail workers, transport/logistics workers, dustnmen, fuel depot workers, nuclear facilities workers, police, prison officers, postmen, airline staff, army, firemen, doctors, nurses etc etc) from striking, the smooth running of the economy and the infrastructure of this country is essential I am sick of people working in areas that are essential for the smooth running of the economy thinking they have everyone over a barrel and therefore use the public as pawns in their little games (not all the industries listed above behave that way I am not singling them out just giving examples of people who should be banned from striking for the greater good of the smooth running of this country) whilst i broadly agree with you on this craig, it would leave the workers open to exploitation, changes that are unfair could then be imposed on them. eg... the employers could change their pension plan cutting what money they had been promised.... so whilst people in the public service, or in essential jobs as you discribe shouldnt be allowed to hold the country to ransom, the employers MUST be accountable and employ fairly.
October 5, 200717 yr If I was prime minister I would bring in legislation banning members of essential services (rail workers, transport/logistics workers, dustnmen, fuel depot workers, nuclear facilities workers, police, prison officers, postmen, airline staff, army, firemen, doctors, nurses etc etc) from striking, the smooth running of the economy and the infrastructure of this country is essential Dont be ridiculous Craig... If you do that, then you're opening up these workers for the worst kinds of abuse imaginable.... The example of the firemen is an obvious one where you are totally wrong... How is it in the public interest to have relief firemen living so far from the centre of a major city like London because they cant even afford a mortgage or to rent a flat because the wages are so p***-poor.. God forbid a 9/11 ever happened here, it would take two fukkin' hours for them to get into the centre of London from their homes in Surrey or Kent.....
October 5, 200717 yr whilst i broadly agree with you on this craig, it would leave the workers open to exploitation, changes that are unfair could then be imposed on them. eg... the employers could change their pension plan cutting what money they had been promised.... so whilst people in the public service, or in essential jobs as you discribe shouldnt be allowed to hold the country to ransom, the employers MUST be accountable and employ fairly. Dont be ridiculous Craig... If you do that, then you're opening up these workers for the worst kinds of abuse imaginable.... The example of the firemen is an obvious one where you are totally wrong... How is it in the public interest to have relief firemen living so far from the centre of a major city like London because they cant even afford a mortgage or to rent a flat because the wages are so p***-poor.. God forbid a 9/11 ever happened here, it would take two fukkin' hours for them to get into the centre of London from their homes in Surrey or Kent..... Nothing much to add to those two posts. You can't just unilaterally remove the right to strike without reducing the likelihood that people in essential services would want to strike.
October 5, 200717 yr God forbid a 9/11 ever happened here, it would take two fukkin' hours for them to get into the centre of London from their homes in Surrey or Kent..... God forbid a 9/11 happening while they are on strike The police are in the same boat mate and they are not allowed to strike and accomodation in London is just as expensive for a police officer as it is for a fireman
October 5, 200717 yr The police are in the same boat mate and they are not allowed to strike and accomodation in London is just as expensive for a police officer as it is for a fireman Coppers get paid more than a fireman though, they should both be on the same wage as they are in very risky, life-threatening occupations....
October 5, 200717 yr God forbid a 9/11 happening while they are on strike If it DID happen, then I reckon the whole strike thing would be kinda forgotten about and they would pitch in, dont you think...? Or maybe you think that all trade unionists are evil gits who dont care about the public..... I reckon firemen care a hell of a lot more about the public than the Govt do, it aint the firemen's unions trying to close down fire-stations in the centre of London and other major metropolitan centres.... <_<
October 5, 200717 yr If it DID happen, then I reckon the whole strike thing would be kinda forgotten about and they would pitch in, dont you think...? Or maybe you think that all trade unionists are evil gits who dont care about the public..... I reckon firemen care a hell of a lot more about the public than the Govt do, it aint the firemen's unions trying to close down fire-stations in the centre of London and other major metropolitan centres.... <_< Course they would but what use are they using your scenario of them being at home in Surrey and Kent ? if they are on strike and a 747 hits Canary Wharf then by the time they get into London and get to the scene everyone is dead, that is my point, I was deliberately twisting it about to counter your original point Edited October 5, 200717 yr by Vic Vega
October 5, 200717 yr Course they would but what use are they using your scenario of them being at home in Surrey and Kent ? if they are on strike and a 747 hits Canary Wharf then by the time they get into London and get to the scene everyone is dead, that is my point, I was deliberately twisting it about to counter your original point Actually, most of them would be on picket lines at their appointed stations...... :P
October 5, 200717 yr If I was prime minister I would bring in legislation banning members of essential services (rail workers, transport/logistics workers, dustnmen, fuel depot workers, nuclear facilities workers, police, prison officers, postmen, airline staff, army, firemen, doctors, nurses etc etc) from striking, the smooth running of the economy and the infrastructure of this country is essential I am sick of people working in areas that are essential for the smooth running of the economy thinking they have everyone over a barrel and therefore use the public as pawns in their little games (not all the industries listed above behave that way I am not singling them out just giving examples of people who should be banned from striking for the greater good of the smooth running of this country) Agree totally with that. They shouldn't be allowed to strike.
October 5, 200717 yr I object to being called a pillock by Grimley. :angry: Can't people debate without childish name calling? :angry: Edited October 5, 200717 yr by Crazy Chris
October 5, 200717 yr its annoying cos im waitin for a new pin number to come, until then no spends for me :cry:
October 6, 200717 yr its annoying cos im waitin for a new pin number to come, until then no spends for me :cry: Well, you could just go into your bank with some ID and one of your statements, I'm sure your bank would allow you to withdraw funds over the counter....
October 6, 200717 yr I object to being called a pillock by Grimley. :angry: Can't people debate without childish name calling? :angry: Well, dont act like a pillock and put up ridiculous posts designed purely for some sort of shock value which bear no resemblance to reality.... That sort of thing's for "The Lounge" mate....
October 6, 200717 yr Well, dont act like a pillock and put up ridiculous posts designed purely for some sort of shock value which bear no resemblance to reality.... That sort of thing's for "The Lounge" mate.... Thought Perspectives was about debate though. Or is it only allowed so long as it agrees with your views? Aren't I entitled to my opinions too on this dispute? Fair enough, disagree with my post but without inane name calling. I left that behind in the playground. Edited October 6, 200717 yr by Crazy Chris
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