I have important letters coming, the postal strike really is getting on my t*ts <_< I don't usually mind these sorts of things, freedom to protest etc., but I want my POST :angry:

Oh if they do even more strikes then it's really taking the biscuit. Yes okay, I understand where they're coming from but the general UK public are the ones who suffer!

 

I'm gonna have a birthday without any birthday cards and presents from a good proportion of my family come Friday and i'm waiting for some very important stuff in the post too, so they best not strike again in the near future.

 

They're striking again on Monday.

 

are they on strike for another week now?

are they on strike for another week now?

 

another 48 hours starting on Monday

 

and some workers have taken it upon themselves in London and other areas to go on unofficial strike today :angry:

I got mail this morning, was talking to my postman this morning, he is rather a bit pi$$ed off with the postal strike, he has been getting abused from people who are not receving mail, some postmen want to actually work rather than going on strike.

another 48 hours starting on Monday

 

and some workers have taken it upon themselves in London and other areas to go on unofficial strike today :angry:

 

oh ok i was getting confused as i saw them all working today ;) hopefully next week is the last one.....

The news report on "Spanish practices" tonight throws a little different light on the postal workers 'plight'

 

but then not altogether convinced wasn't a bit too biased to be plausible.

 

I heard an interview with the Chief Executive yesterday. Some of the practices he desribed did sound somewhat dated. However, he wasn't asked to justify his £1 million pound per year salary. He wasn't asked to asked whether it was right that he got paid in one year more than a postman will get paid in their entire career. He said that the change in the pension scheme applied to him as well. However, I think it's fair to assume that his pension (from the Royal Mail and his previous jobs) will be many times a postman's salary.

I heard an interview with the Chief Executive yesterday. Some of the practices he desribed did sound somewhat dated. However, he wasn't asked to justify his £1 million pound per year salary. He wasn't asked to asked whether it was right that he got paid in one year more than a postman will get paid in their entire career. He said that the change in the pension scheme applied to him as well. However, I think it's fair to assume that his pension (from the Royal Mail and his previous jobs) will be many times a postman's salary.

 

 

Of course a £1m salary is too high, but what would you pay the head of the Royal Mail, the same as a postie, get real these jobs pay high salaries to attract the best managers, now I am not saying he is the best in this case but he was appointed and is in charge until he is sacked or resigns. Maybe I should apply if a vacancy comes up :lol:

From what I've heard today they're well on the way to sorting out their pension. There stiking as well because they want to get paid for work they aren't actually doing, like for say if a guy goes in at 6 to get his work done and he's off duty for 3 hours he still wants to get paid for it. If your off duty you don't get paid, I wouldn't and no one else would.

Of course a £1m salary is too high, but what would you pay the head of the Royal Mail, the same as a postie, get real these jobs pay high salaries to attract the best managers, now I am not saying he is the best in this case but he was appointed and is in charge until he is sacked or resigns. Maybe I should apply if a vacancy comes up :lol:

 

I'm not suggesting for a moment that he should be paid the same as a postie. But the ratio between top pay and average pay in organisations has rocketed over the last twenty years or so. The ratio used to be around 10 or 20 to 1. In some organisations now, it's 100 to 1.

From what I've heard today they're well on the way to sorting out their pension. There stiking as well because they want to get paid for work they aren't actually doing, like for say if a guy goes in at 6 to get his work done and he's off duty for 3 hours he still wants to get paid for it. If your off duty you don't get paid, I wouldn't and no one else would.

 

 

ahhhh so they want paying for 8 hours but are working 5? well thats not very efficient is it! :lol: no wonder they are up in arms... pmsl...

I heard an interview with the Chief Executive yesterday. Some of the practices he desribed did sound somewhat dated. However, he wasn't asked to justify his £1 million pound per year salary. He wasn't asked to asked whether it was right that he got paid in one year more than a postman will get paid in their entire career. He said that the change in the pension scheme applied to him as well. However, I think it's fair to assume that his pension (from the Royal Mail and his previous jobs) will be many times a postman's salary.

 

That's totally outrageous tbh... And frankly, with a bloody million quid salary what the hell would he even need a Royal Mail pension for anyway ffs..... <_< <_< <_< <_< I would imagine someone like him has a nice, secure, private pension scheme that his workers certainly wouldn't be able to afford....

 

See, this is what totally gets me, these bloody managers banging on about "modernization", needing to make "cut backs", blah, blah, blah, etc; and then they go off and award themselves totally outrageous salaries, bonuses, etc like this when the business itself is clearly fukked, "modernization" clearly means "we'll award ourselves big bonuses and you lot get nowt but a reduced penions which'll be virtually worthless in real terms or your P45s".... :angry: Well, fukk it, now that I have this information about this two-faced hypocrite, I'm 100% behind the posties now... Strike away lads.....

 

It's about time these bloody managers started leading by example and took pay cuts when a business is failing instead of just creaming off the top for themselves....

From what I've heard today they're well on the way to sorting out their pension. There stiking as well because they want to get paid for work they aren't actually doing, like for say if a guy goes in at 6 to get his work done and he's off duty for 3 hours he still wants to get paid for it. If your off duty you don't get paid, I wouldn't and no one else would.

 

You dont really know the facts surrounding this issue Clare... Speaking for myself, I would usually work through my breaks, eating while I was sorting so I could get finished quicker, as many of my colleagues did, so frankly if that's what people are doing, I dont see what the big deal is....

 

You dont really know the facts surrounding this issue Clare... Speaking for myself, I would usually work through my breaks, eating while I was sorting so I could get finished quicker, as many of my colleagues did, so frankly if that's what people are doing, I dont see what the big deal is....

 

I'll tell our local post lady that.

 

It's not about working through breaks it's about getting paid while you're off duty, the two are completley different.

I'll tell our local post lady that.

 

It's not about working through breaks it's about getting paid while you're off duty, the two are completley different.

 

I dunno how things work nowadays tbh, but when I was a Postie, I'd do a delivery in the morning early on, then it would be back to the office to sort the mail for the next day and put it into the delivery frames, and if we sorted through our breaks we could finish an hour or so early, pretty good trade-off... Seems to me that Posties dont do that anymore, they do all the sorting for three or four hours and then go out on the delivery and finish... Your Postlady is probably lucky enough to manage to get round her delivery fairly quickly, but for many of her colleagues I'm betting they routinely go over their time. It's just different people coping with it in different ways....

That's totally outrageous tbh... And frankly, with a bloody million quid salary what the hell would he even need a Royal Mail pension for anyway ffs..... <_< <_< <_< <_< I would imagine someone like him has a nice, secure, private pension scheme that his workers certainly wouldn't be able to afford....

 

See, this is what totally gets me, these bloody managers banging on about "modernization", needing to make "cut backs", blah, blah, blah, etc; and then they go off and award themselves totally outrageous salaries, bonuses, etc like this when the business itself is clearly fukked, "modernization" clearly means "we'll award ourselves big bonuses and you lot get nowt but a reduced penions which'll be virtually worthless in real terms or your P45s".... :angry: Well, fukk it, now that I have this information about this two-faced hypocrite, I'm 100% behind the posties now... Strike away lads.....

 

It's about time these bloody managers started leading by example and took pay cuts when a business is failing instead of just creaming off the top for themselves....

 

You have to pay the best to attract the best Scott

 

I have no problem with this guy getting £1m a year, EVERY football manager in the Premiership gets more than that, in the case of the very top ones 4 or 5 times that as a basic with bonuses added on top of that, the likes of Mourinho, Wenger, Ferguson clear £6m a year if their teams have good results I have far more problem with a guy getting £6m for picking 11 players and sorting a few tactics than I do a man getting £1m for running a business that probably has 100,000 employees and is facing competition from other firms

You have to pay the best to attract the best Scott

Are they "the best" though...?? Remember that whole "Consignia" farrago a few years back...?? This idiot comes up with a "reimagining" of Royal Mail's "Corporate Image", and what a totally unmitigated disaster it was.... And this t*** still manages to walk away with a "golden handshake" to the tune of almost a quarter of a million quid of taxpayers money (never mind a sodding "golden handshake", I'd've given the c/unt a bloody golden shower if I'd got my hands on him).... <_< <_< . You call that a good use of public funds do you...?

 

Mate, you're prattling on about bloody Premiership football, I'm talking about a sodding PUBLIC SERVICE here, THERE SHOULD BE NO "COMPETITION", ROYAL MAIL SHOULD HAVE ITS MONOPOLY RESTORED.

 

To even try to compare the two is frankly ludicrous.... And when these managers come into a team, do they sack about a quarter of the players...??? I dont think so....

I dunno how things work nowadays tbh, but when I was a Postie, I'd do a delivery in the morning early on, then it would be back to the office to sort the mail for the next day and put it into the delivery frames, and if we sorted through our breaks we could finish an hour or so early, pretty good trade-off... Seems to me that Posties dont do that anymore, they do all the sorting for three or four hours and then go out on the delivery and finish... Your Postlady is probably lucky enough to manage to get round her delivery fairly quickly, but for many of her colleagues I'm betting they routinely go over their time. It's just different people coping with it in different ways....

 

She has a long day, I don't think anyone who starts early mornings and clocks off at 6pm wants to stay any longer than she'd have to. That's a long day, I think I do two hours less than her, and I'm sat on my bum all time and at the end of the week I'm fukked can't imagine how she feels lol.

 

I can always say I have two jobs that might just make it even lol.

Edited October 12, 200717 yr by Daylight Dancer

Mate, you're prattling on about bloody Premiership football, I'm talking about a sodding PUBLIC SERVICE here, THERE SHOULD BE NO "COMPETITION", ROYAL MAIL SHOULD HAVE ITS MONOPOLY RESTORED.

 

To even try to compare the two is frankly ludicrous.... And when these managers come into a team, do they sack about a quarter of the players...??? I dont think so....

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Sorry that made me laugh, people in the office will think I'm wierd now...

Are they "the best" though...?? Remember that whole "Consignia" farrago a few years back...?? This idiot comes up with a "reimagining" of Royal Mail's "Corporate Image", and what a totally unmitigated disaster it was.... And this t*** still manages to walk away with a "golden handshake" to the tune of almost a quarter of a million quid of taxpayers money (never mind a sodding "golden handshake", I'd've given the c/unt a bloody golden shower if I'd got my hands on him).... <_< <_< . You call that a good use of public funds do you...?

 

Mate, you're prattling on about bloody Premiership football, I'm talking about a sodding PUBLIC SERVICE here, THERE SHOULD BE NO "COMPETITION", ROYAL MAIL SHOULD HAVE ITS MONOPOLY RESTORED.

 

To even try to compare the two is frankly ludicrous.... And when these managers come into a team, do they sack about a quarter of the players...??? I dont think so....

 

The chairman is Allan Leighton who single handedly transformed Asda from virtually a couple of corner shops in Leeds into the 3rd biggest supermarket chain in the country, the guy knows business he is not some wet behind the ears 20 something Management Consultant, ok mail is different from food but the guy is a very good businessman so if he is getting this sort of money I bet he could get more than that elsewhere

 

The chief executive Adam Crozier is a bit of a tit but again he did manage to turn Saatchi and Saatchi into a global force

 

Royal Mail's monopoly is a matter for the government