Let`s make a start on BBC number 3 records 57 - 69...

12TH OCT 57 TAMMY - DEBBIE REYNOLDS 4wks at 3

14TH NOV 57 I LOVE YOU BABY/TELL ME THAT YOU LOVE ME - PAUL ANKA

11TH JAN 58 MY SPECIAL ANGEL - MALCOM VAUGHAN

01ST FEB 58 OH BOY - CRICKETS

15TH FEB 58 AT THE HOP - DANNY AND THE JUNIORS

29TH MAR 58 NAIROBI - TOMMY STEELE 3wks at 3

19TH APR 58 MAYBE BABY - CRICKETS

05TH JUL 58 TULIPS FROM AMSTERDAM/YOU NEED HANDS - MAX BYGRAVES 4wks at 3

06TH DEC 58 TOM DOOLEY - LONNIE DONEGAN 6wks at 3

21ST FEB 59 DOES YOUR CHEWING GUM LOSE IT`S FLAVOUR - LONNIE DONEGAN

07TH MAR 59 A PUB WITH NO BEER - SLIM DUSTY 3wks at 3

28TH MAR 59 MY HAPPINESS - CONNIE FRANCIS

25TH APR 59 PETITE FLEUR - CHRIS BARBER`S JAZZBAND

09TH MAY 59 DONNA - MARTY WILDE

23RD MAY 59 IT`S LATE/NEVER BE ANYONE ELSE BUT YOU - RICKY NELSON 4wks at 3

27TH JUN 59 A TEENAGER IN LOVE - MARTY WILDE 3wks at 3

29TH AUG 59 LONELY BOY - PAUL ANKA 4wks at 3

24TH OCT 59 TIL` I KISSED YOU - EVERLY BROTHERS

31ST OCT 59 SEA OF LOVE - MARTY WILDE

14TH NOV 59 RED RIVER ROCK - JOHNNY AND THE HURRICANES 3wks at 3

19TH DEC 59 OH CAROL - NEIL SEDAKA 5wks at 3

12TH MAR 60 DELAWARE - PERRY COMO 3wks at 3

04TH JUN 60 HANDY MAN - JIMMY JONES

16TH JUL 60 AIN`T MISBEHAVIN` - TOMMY BRUCE/BRUISERS

01ST OCT 60 NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN - CLIFF RICHARD 3wks at 3

26TH NOV 60 ROCKING GOOSE - JOHNNY AND THE HURRICANES

03RD DEC 60 MAN OF MYSTERY/THE STRANGER - SHADOWS

09TH FEB 61 RUBBER BALL - BOBBY VEE

09TH MAR 61 WILL YOU LOVE ME TOMORROW - SHIRELLES

08TH APR 61 THEME FOR A DREAM - CLIFF RICHARD

20TH APR 61 LAZY RIVER - BOBBY DARIN

11TH MAY 61 ON THE REBOUND - FLOYD KRAMER

25TH MAY 61 FRIGHTENED CITY - SHADOWS 4wks at 3

06TH JUL 61 PASADENA - TEMPERENCE SEVEN

13TH JUL 61 A GIRL LIKE YOU - CLIFF RICHARD

31ST AUG 61 REACH FOR THE STARS/CLIMB EV`RY MOUNTAIN - SHIRLEY BASSEY

23RD NOV 61 BIG BAD JOHN - JIMMY DEAN

01ST FEB 61 HAPPY BIRTHDAY SWEET SIXTEEN - NEIL SEDAKA

10TH MAY 62 SPEAK TO ME PRETTY - BRENDA LEE

16TH AUG 62 GUITAR TANGO - SHADOW

30TH AUG 62 ROSES ARE RED - RONNIE CARROLL 3wks at 3

22ND NOV 62 SWISS MAID - DEL SHANNON

13TH DEC 62 SUN ARISE - ROLF HARRIS

31ST JAN 63 GLOBETROTTER - TORNADOS

28TH FEB 63 THE NIGHT HAS A THOUSAND EYES - BOBBY VEE

14TH MAR 63 LIKE I`VE NEVER BEEN GONE - BILLY FURY

21TH MAR 63 THAT`S WHAT LOVE WILL DO - JOE BROWN

18TH APR 63 BROWN-EYED HANDSOME MAN - BUDDY HOLLY

09TH MAY 63 CAN`T GET USED TO LOSING YOU - ANDY WILLIAMS

15TH AUG 63 TWIST AND SHOUT E.P. - BEATLES

26TH SEPT 63 I WANT TO STAY HERE - STEVE AND EYDIE

24TH MAR 64 JUST ONE LOOK - HOLLIES

07TH JUL 64 HOLD ME - P.J. PROBY

21ST JUL 64 I JUST DON`T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MYSELF - DUSTY SPRINGFIELD

11TH AUG 64 CALL UP THE GROUPS - BARRON KNIGHTS

25TH AUG 64 I WON`T FORGET YOU - JIM REEVES

27TH OCT 64 THE WEDDING - JULIE ROGERS

17TH NOV 64 HE`S IN TOWN - ROCKIN` BERRIES

15TH DEC 64 DOWNTOWN - PETULA CLARK 4wks at 3

19TH JAN 65 TERRY - TWINKLE

26TH FEB 65 YOU`VE LOST THAT LOVIN` FEELING - CILLA BLACK (tie with COME TOMORROW - MANFRED MANN

09TH FEB 65 KEEP SEARCHIN` - DEL SHANNON

23RD FEB 65 DON`T LET ME BE MISUNDERSTOOD - ANIMALS

20TH APR 65 HERE COMES THE NIGHT - THEM

29TH JUN 65 LOOKING THROUGH THE EYES OF LOVE - GENE PITNEY

20TH JUN 65 TOSSING AND TURNING - IVY LEAGUE

03RD AUG 65 WE GOTTA GET OUT OF THIS PLACE - ANIMALS

24TH AUG 65 A WALK IN THE BLACK FOREST - HORST JANKOWSKI

18TH JAN 66 SPANISH FLEA - HERB ALPERT

22ND MAR 66 SHAPES OF THINGS - YARDBIRDS

29TH MAR 66 SHAPES OF THINGS (tie with DEDICATED FOLLOWER OF FASHION - KINKS and ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY - BOB LIND

05TH APR 66 ELUSIVE BUTTERFLY - BOB LIND

12TH APR 66 HOLD TIGHT - DAVE DEE DOZY BEAKY MICK AND TICH

07TH JUN 66 MONDAY MONDAY - MAMAS AND PAPAS 3wks at 3

20TH SEP 66 TOO SOON TO KNOW - ROY ORBISON

27TH SEPT 66 YOU CAN`T HURRY LOVE - SUPREMES

17TH JAN 67 HAPPY JACK - WHO

24TH JAN 67 NIGHT OF FEAR - MOVE

18TH APR 67 A LITTLE BIT YOU A LITTLE BIT ME - MONKEES 3wks at 3

20TH JUN 67 CARRIE-ANNE - HOLLIES

18TH JUL 67 IT MUST BE HIM - VIKKI CARR 3wks at 3

08TH AUG 67 DEATH OF A CLOWN - DAVE DAVIES

22ND AUG 67 I WAS MADE TO LOVE HER - STEVIE WONDER

03RD OCT 67 HOLE IN MY SHOE - TRAFFIC 4wks at 3

19TH DEC 67 I`M COMING HOME - TOM JONES 3wks at 3

09TH JAN 68 DAYDREAM BELIEVER - MONKEES

13TH FEB 68 BEND ME SHAPE ME - AMEN CORNER

20TH FEB 68 SHE WEARS MY RING - SOLOMAN KING

05TH MAR 68 FIRE BRIGADE - MOVE

12TH MAR 68 ROSIE - DON PARTRIDGE

16TH APR 68 IF I ONLY HAD TIME - JOHN ROWLES

14TH MAY 68 A MAN WITHOUT LOVE - ENGLEBERT HUMPERDINCK 4wks at 3

18TH JUN 68 BLUE EYES - DON PARTRIDGE

06TH AUG 68 MRS ROBINSON - SIMON AND GARFUNKEL

20TH AUG 68 HELP YOURSELF - TOM JONES

08TH OCT 68 LITTLE ARROWS - LEAPY LEE

19TH NOV 68 THIS OLD HEART OF MINE - ISLEY BROTHERS

10TH DEC 68 1-2-3 O`LEARY - DES O`CONNER 3wks at 3

21ST JAN 69 FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE - STEVIE WONDER 3wks at 3

 

That`s it for the number 3s, in the BBC chart.

Edited October 3, 200915 yr by Dave Taylor

Hi Trevs, really interesting topic!

 

Could you please clarify something - you say that "From 31st Dec 1963, the chart was compiled on a Tuesday" - does that mean it was announced on a tuesday lunchtime in 1964, or did that only start in Sept 67?

 

Also in the event of tied points (and both fell/climbed), does it matter which was a bigger faller or climber in terms of separating positions, or would it be a tied position?

 

Many Thanks!

Hi Trevs, really interesting topic!

 

Could you please clarify something - you say that "From 31st Dec 1963, the chart was compiled on a Tuesday" - does that mean it was announced on a tuesday lunchtime in 1964, or did that only start in Sept 67?

 

Also in the event of tied points (and both fell/climbed), does it matter which was a bigger faller or climber in terms of separating positions, or would it be a tied position?

 

Many Thanks!

From memory (as Trevs didn`t clarify), although Derek Chinnery compiled the chart on the Tuesday...it wasn`t actually seen until Top Of The Pops on the Wednesday. I believe TOTP got it`s regular Thursday show in 1965, so again the chart wasn`t actually seen by the public until the Thursday night. The Tuesday rundown began on Tuesday 3rd Oct 1967 (when Radio One recorded a rundown with Alan Freeman, for 12.30pm broadcast). At that point, Alan was doing the rundown to "Quite Beside The Point", by The Harry Roberts Sound (Slightly nicked these days, by Colin Berry on Saturday nights on various local BBC Radio Stations). Alan Freeman (from April 1970), used a new version of "At The Sign Of The Swinging Cymbal", by Brass Incorporated. Both the themes, were of course used on Pick Of The Pops. The Tuesday rundowns were done by Tony Blackburn (from Sept 72), followed by Dave Lee Travis, Johnny Walker (1973/6), Paul Burnett (1976-82), DLT (again, 1982), Mike Smith (1983), and lastly from 1984-87 by Gary Davies. In July 1972 (during a live rundown), DLT set fire to Alan`s rundown sheet with a lighter, as Alan read it out! A situation, that was looked on as a major hazard at Radio One...

 

Tied positions were always messy, and it was only in the earlier years that 2 songs going down were involved in a joint position. Certainly after 1965, Derek Chinnery seperated them.

"During TOM BROWNE`s run of the TOP 20 on Sundays, PAUL BURNETT sat in for him for a week in June 74, and JOHNNIE WALKER did the Sunday TOP 20, for a week in early Sept 73."

 

 

So in Tom Browne's years as Top 20 host, which I remember well, did he only take two Sundays off? :o

Edited October 2, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris

"During TOM BROWNE`s run of the TOP 20 on Sundays, PAUL BURNETT sat in for him for a week in June 74, and JOHNNIE WALKER did the Sunday TOP 20, for a week in early Sept 73."

So in Tom Browne's years as Top 20 host, which I remember well, did he only take two Sundays off? :o

No, Chris...Tom was off in Sept 73, June 74, May 76 (Simon Bates 1wk), Sept 76 (Simon Bates 3wks), July 77 (Simon Bates), and Sept 77 (Simon Bates). 9 weeks in total, I believe. Though, some of Tom`s shows were pre-recorded. On Sunday 20th Dec 1975, Tom did the show live with the most terrible cold I ever heard...but he soldiered on. What a great host he was, with such a silky voice too.

In July 1972 (during a live rundown), DLT set fire to Alan`s rundown sheet with a lighter, as Alan read it out! A situation, that was looked on as a major hazard at Radio One...

 

This appeared on a "bloopers" tape which came with a "25 Years of Radio 1" souvenir book/magazine back in 1992.

 

BTW going back to the initial post the Independent Radio chart show expanded to a Top 40 when Neil Fox took over from David Jensen in August 93.

BTW going back to the initial post the Independent Radio chart show expanded to a Top 40 when Neil Fox took over from David Jensen in August 93.

The actual size of the chart depended where you lived...From the begininng of 1986, in the London Area (and Capital FM) David Jensen also played new entries/risers in the 31-75 part between 4 and 5pm. From 1991 in this first hour, the 31-40 was played in full. From which, some other stations (as well as Capital) joined early.

No, Chris...Tom was off in Sept 73, June 74, May 76 (Simon Bates 1wk), Sept 76 (Simon Bates 3wks), July 77 (Simon Bates), and Sept 77 (Simon Bates). 9 weeks in total, I believe. Though, some of Tom`s shows were pre-recorded. On Sunday 20th Dec 1975, Tom did the show live with the most terrible cold I ever heard...but he soldiered on. What a great host he was, with such a silky voice too.

 

 

Agreed. For me the best chart show host ever and fab voice. Though I listened every week I can't remember how he fitted 20 songs in to an hour though! Did he fade some songs out? I mean Bohemian Rhapsody was almost 6 minutes and he had 3 minutes for each. Did he skip one or two songs most weeks?

Edited October 2, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris

Thanks :D

Agreed. For me the best chart show host ever and fab voice. Though I listened every week I can't remember how he fitted 20 songs in to an hour though! Did he fade some songs out? I mean Bohemian Rhapsody was almost 6 minutes and he had 3 minutes for each. Did he skip one or two songs most weeks?

The only songs ever skipped were the banned ones from Judge Dread/Donna Summer/Sex Pistols et al. Though in 1976, he didn`t play the M & O Band because it was practically a nicked backing track from the original "Latin Hustle" from Eddie Drennon. Also in January 1977, "Bionic Santa" was skipped. They were the only occasions. The trick applied was...if a single was going down between 11-20, then it was faded early. This allowed 10 records in 25 minutes, and the complete top 10 at 6.25! Allowing the full versions of the top 3, just ahead of 6.50. No time for lots of chat...just artist name followed by "while next it`s...." Actually the only major chat in the show was the rundown ahead of the number one, and the odd traffic report. Remember between Oct 1972, and Mar 1974, Tom played 60 records in 3 hours in the "Solid Gold Sixty". Possibly a forerunner of Independant Radio`s later airplay shows...Solid Gold Sixty, played the Top 20 Sales chart at 6pm, and between 4 - 6pm, played the Radio One playlist records, that didn`t feature in the sales top 20. That disappeared in Mar 1974, when Radio One launched the Sunday morning show "All There Is Too Hear" with Paul Burnett, playing the Radio One airplay chart. While Tom Browne continued to do the top 20 at 6pm, for just the solitary hour.

 

By the way, if anyone wants to see a complete list of full BBC Charts prior to 1969, get in touch and i`ll send one to you.

Just to add though often new entries in the bottom half of the Top 20 were faded early . eg Trammps's Disco Inferno faded just beofre that record's third tune!

Going back to how the BBC complied their charts pre-69, interesting how in the infamous week of the 3 way tie that they'd put the Bee Gees at joint 1 before it reached number 1 in any of the music papers charts, effectively anticipating it - if only it hadn't made it, there would have been a case of the averaging producing a number 1 from a record not actually rated number 1 anywhere!