As for your M25 comparison, absolute bull $h!t! On a motorway it is a public road, you are not earning your living trying to get to the end of it faster than every other car on it...

 

 

 

1)Alonso had a c**p exit out of the previous corner

 

2) Hamilton had a very good run out of the previous corner

 

3) Alonso was being very defensive and tried to block by moving to the inside

 

4) Hamilton kept his foot on the throttle even though he was closing in very rapidly

 

5) Hamilton is unable to find a path around Alonso proceeds to drive up the rear of him because of the differing corner exit speeds from the previous corner

 

Hamilton's fault

 

Which is exactly what happened. Alonso semi screwed up the previous corner, which led to what happened as Alonso was completely within his rights to shut the door on Hamilton which led to Hamilton's race being effectively over. The telemetry results have been revealed and there was nothing untoward about Alonso as he was on full throttle when Hamilton went into the back of him, as Alonso had screwed up on the previous bend and was therefore under his normal level of horse power & speed when coming to the next corner.

 

All in all a wretched day to be a British F1 fan, what with Coultard & Button also tagging, and Brundle, Blundell & Allen looking like complete xenophobic biased muppets on ITV's Grand Prix coverage Hamilton is the new messiah F1 love in coverage, and add to that Lewis Hamilton hit the wrong button at the start.

 

At least Lewis Hamilton had the decency to admit his weekend was "a disaster", and he had "an awful drive" today, and to immediately rubbish Alonso of any blame BEFORE the telemetry results were released.

 

As this race again proved today Ferrari are in a class of their own and should easily run away with both Constructors & Drivers Championships. However, I would expect Lewis Hamilton to finish first out of the rest of the field, but with him being romantically linked with Dannii Minogue (who did for Jacques Villeneuve what Delilah did for Samson), then for the first time I'm starting to fear that Lewis Hamilton is nearer to being the new Jenson Button instead of the new Ayrton Senna.

he didnt miss a corner and go straight on it was a tactical move to turn left, he should have just stayed on the track and if he 22nd at the end there thats just tough, the rules are if you gain places on track by cutting off the track then you have to let them through again so Hamilton should have done that

 

I doubt Alonso did that deliberately as his car is damaged too, Lewis just got too close

 

I waited until I could see this again on the highlights before I replied incase you were right, but somewhat unsurprisingly, you're not. Hamilton went off into the RUN-OFF AREA (that's what it's for!) placed behind Mark Webber and returned the track in exactly the same place, behind Mark Webber, he wasn't anywhere near enough to any other cars for him to be at fault for anything!

I like Hamilton as a racing driver, but the coverage on ITV is so biased towards him. Coulthard and Button never got this much attention when they were higher up the grid in previous years, almost an afterthought now. Also why do they always show pics of his father in the garage , they don't do that with any of the other drivers. It's not as if Lewis is still a kid, he's in his 20's now.

 

It was the same last year, Alonso was the villain of the piece and Lewis could do no wrong.

 

As I said I like Lewis as a driver, but I don't ignore the skills of the other drivers.

 

Kubica and Heidfeld are definately going to give McLaren a run this season.

They used to show John Button ALL the time when Jenson had a good car!

As if my hatred for Alonso grows even more <_< Bloody cheat! :angry:

 

And how exactly did alonso cheat?

 

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/543329/img/543329.gif

can i use that as my sig :rofl:

 

 

Which is exactly what happened. Alonso semi screwed up the previous corner, which led to what happened as Alonso was completely within his rights to shut the door on Hamilton which led to Hamilton's race being effectively over. The telemetry results have been revealed and there was nothing untoward about Alonso as he was on full throttle when Hamilton went into the back of him, as Alonso had screwed up on the previous bend and was therefore under his normal level of horse power & speed when coming to the next corner.

 

All in all a wretched day to be a British F1 fan, what with Coultard & Button also tagging, and Brundle, Blundell & Allen looking like complete xenophobic biased muppets on ITV's Grand Prix coverage Hamilton is the new messiah F1 love in coverage, and add to that Lewis Hamilton hit the wrong button at the start.

 

At least Lewis Hamilton had the decency to admit his weekend was "a disaster", and he had "an awful drive" today, and to immediately rubbish Alonso of any blame BEFORE the telemetry results were released.

 

As this race again proved today Ferrari are in a class of their own and should easily run away with both Constructors & Drivers Championships. However, I would expect Lewis Hamilton to finish first out of the rest of the field, but with him being romantically linked with Dannii Minogue (who did for Jacques Villeneuve what Delilah did for Samson), then for the first time I'm starting to fear that Lewis Hamilton is nearer to being the new Jenson Button instead of the new Ayrton Senna.

 

agreed, agreed, agreed and agreed. great post!

 

They used to show John Button ALL the time when Jenson had a good car!

 

:lol: when exactly did button have a good car

Ok, when nearly everyone else had a car worse than Honda's! :lol: In 2004/5 when he was up there and finished on podiums and had pole positions they spoke to his dad as much as they speak to Anthony Hamilton now, it's nothing new at all...

ah yes. when they finished second.

 

i laughed so much that season, the amount of times iTV asked Button if he thought he could win, and he replied "Well, were in a strong position and we have a good strategy underneath us"

 

it was so funny that he thought could beat a ferrari

Kimi Raikkonen denied crowd hero Fernando Alonso claiming a hugely unexpected pole position for his home Spanish Grand Prix with a brilliant final lap at Barcelona. The world champion was on course for a disappointing grid slot until he uncorked a 1m21.813s lap on his final run to beat his resurgent Renault rival to pole by under a tenth of a second. For a few moments before that point, it had looked as though Alonso would take one of the most unlikely poles for some time after a stunning final lap of his own that pushed the then quickest man Felipe Massa into second place. The double world champion punched in air the delight after crossing the line in his heavily upgraded R28, which just three weeks ago struggled to get into Q3. But Raikkonen was coming up fast in the final sector at Catalunya and ultimately took his first pole of the season, and just his fourth for Ferrari overall. Whether Alonso’s front-row slot is a result of a crowd-pleasing low-fuel run will be seen in Sunday’s race, but what is in no doubt is the former champions are much more of a force here than they have been for some time. The top two’s improvements pushed Massa down to third after the Brazilian couldn’t improve his original benchmark time on his own second run. However it was even worse for the McLarens, who will start behind BMW’s Robert Kubica in fifth and sixth. The two MP4-23s had looked closer to the Ferraris throughout qualifying than free practice had suggested, but Lewis Hamilton and Heikki Kovalainen still couldn’t do better than the third row. Red Bull’s Mark Webber was a fine seventh, ahead of his fellow qualifying specialist Jarno Trulli in the Toyota. Nick Heidfeld was pushed down to ninth, although the half a second gap to his BMW team-mate Kubica suggests he may be fairly heavy on fuel. Renault’s impressive day was rounded off by its rookie ace Nelson Piquet Jr who will start from a career-high 10th after making Q3 for the first time.

 

Qualifying 2

 

Massa needed two fast laps to set the pace in Q2, although Ferrari still wasn’t enjoying the superiority its Friday from suggested it may have. The Brazilian’s time of 1m20.584s was just 0.01s faster than Kubica as BMW continued to threaten with Raikkonen two tenths back in third. A world away from his Bahrain struggles, Alonso comfortably made Q3 this time as his R28 showed more promise to put him ahead of potential pole-chasers Heidfeld, Kovalainen and Hamilton. Piquet Jr backed up the Spaniard’s pace to take his first place in the final phase, with regular Q3 runners Trulli and Webber joining him. Honda had been looking to get at least one of its cars into the final phase, but missed out on bumping Webber out by just 0.06s with Rubens Barrichello. Williams also failed to make the cut, although Kazuki Nakajima (12th) outqualified team-mate Nico Rosberg (15th) for the first time by a healthy two tenths margin. Button was outqualified by Barrichello again and will start 13th, ahead of the second Toyota of Timo Glock. And Sebastien Bourdais completed another encouraging qualifying session by making it into Q2 unlike his Toro Rosso team-mate Sebastian Vettel.

 

Qualifying 1

 

Raikkonen fired a warning shot to the rest of the field by taking the early advantage in qualifying. The world champion set an impressive best lap time of 1m20.701s to head the times by over 0.4s. However it took the world champion three fast laps to get to that benchmark, as he took the unusual step of completing two separate runs on the hard tyres despite being already comfortably assured a place in Q1. Trulli made a late improvement to end up second, with Alonso continuing to lead give his home crowd something to cheer with third. Hamilton had led the way for most of Q1 after a solid run and ended up fourth, with Piquet Jr and Kubica fifth and sixth respectively. The big shock of the first phase was David Coulthard’s failure to make the cut for the second successive grand prix, despite the Red Bull driver’s fine form throughout free practice. RBR thought it would have enough pace to make the second phase without using the softer rubber, but the gamble backfired as Coulthard hit traffic on his out lap and couldn’t warm the tyres up to the optimum temperature for his ultimately slow last effort. Vettel couldn’t match his Toro Rosso team-mate’s qualifying exploits once again and will start 18th, ahead of the Force Indias who’s practice promise didn’t materialise into a Q2 berth. Super Aguri was predictably at the back, but Anthony Davidson can take some pleasure from outqualifying team-mate Takuma Sato and lapping just a tenth of a second behind Adrian Sutil’s Force India.

 

Provisional starting grid for the Spanish GP

 

1. RAIKKONEN Ferrari

2. ALONSO Renault

3. MASSA Ferrari

4. KUBICA BMW

5. HAMILTON McLaren

6. KOVALAINEN McLaren

7. WEBBER Red Bull

8. TRULLI Toyota

9. HEIDFELD BMW

10. PIQUET Renault

11. BARRICHELLO Honda

12. NAKAJIMA Williams

13. BUTTON Honda

14. GLOCK Toyota

15. ROSBERG Williams

16. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso

17. COULTHARD Red Bull

18. VETTEL Toro Rosso

19. FISICHELLA Force India

20. SUTIL Force India

21. DAVIDSON Super Aguri

22. SATO Super Aguri

 

 

 

 

Renault have confirmed that Alonso is light, BUT Piquet isn't.

 

He's finally learned how to drive :D

Maybe in qualifying but he was $h!te in the race! :lol: Alonso blew up too, would've been racing Webber/Heidfeld though, still nowhere near the top 3. Good that Kovy seems ok... Decent race with losts of incidents, they HAVE to get rid of that pit-stop rule though, absolutely ridiculous that Heidfeld was leading and then had to finish 9th purely because he got a penalty for something he could never have helped! :manson:

Terrible race. :angry:

i haven't seen it yet, actually i haven't seen a single race so far this year.

 

they are all on dvd for me to watch after my exams.

 

but piquet <_< what a stupid decision

After six race, state in Championchip is:

 

Driver:

 

Pos Driver Nationality Team Points

1 Lewis Hamilton British McLaren-Mercedes 38

2 Kimi Räikkönen Finnish Ferrari 35

3 Felipe Massa Brazilian Ferrari 34

4 Robert Kubica Polish BMW Sauber 32

5 Nick Heidfeld German BMW Sauber 20 :( (Very bad luck this season)

6 Heikki Kovalainen Finnish McLaren-Mercedes 15

7 Mark Webber Australian Red Bull-Renault 15

8 Fernando Alonso Spanish Renault 9

9 Jarno Trulli Italian Toyota 9

10 Nico Rosberg German Williams-Toyota 8

11 Kazuki Nakajima Japanese Williams-Toyota 7

12 Sebastian Vettel German STR-Ferrari 4

13 Jenson Button British Honda 3

14 Rubens Barrichello Brazilian Honda 3

15 Sebastien Bourdais French STR-Ferrari 2

16 David Coulthard British Red Bull-Renault 0

17 Timo Glock German Toyota 0

18 Giancarlo Fisichella Italian Force India-Ferrari 0

19 Nelsinho Piquet Brazilian Renault 0

20 Takuma Sato Japanese Super Aguri-Honda 0

21 Anthony Davidson British Super Aguri-Honda 0

22 Adrian Sutil German Force India-Ferrari 0

 

Team:

 

1 Ferrari 69

2 McLaren-Mercedes 53

3 BMW Sauber 52 :cheer:

4 Williams-Toyota 15

5 Red Bull-Renault 15

6 Toyota 9

7 Renault 9

8 STR-Ferrari 6

9 Honda 6

10 Force India-Ferrari 0

11 Super Aguri-Honda 0

 

I hope can BMW beat this year McLaren in construction championchip, and Heidfeld back in TOP! Goo BMW & Nick! :cheer:

 

 

Thanks for the Update Nick F1

 

Go on Lewis and Robert

 

Unlucky for Heidfeld

np Andy ;) , very unlucky Heidfeld in this 6 race, but I think can she in Canada GP back in top, with great Kubica, BMW will be second team in championchip. :D

What a race!! Brilliant by DC almost matching Heidfeld is simply amazing, he thoroughly deserved that result after this pig of start to his season. I'm happy for Kubica but I can't help but feel Nick could've have kept him at bay and taken the win had the team orders not come in to play.

 

Hopefully that idiotic action by Hamilton will bring him down a peg or two and make him realise he's not that special, unlucky for Kimi it cost him dearly

It was a case of what goes around, comes around for Kimi. I like him but he did exactly the same thing in the last race...

 

I didn't really see all the race, was there really team orders? That sucks for Nick though I'm really pleased Kubica's got a win, he's been great all year.

It was a case of what goes around, comes around for Kimi. I like him but he did exactly the same thing in the last race...

 

I didn't really see all the race, was there really team orders? That sucks for Nick though I'm really pleased Kubica's got a win, he's been great all year.

 

I think Kimi losing control of his car at 200 mph on a damp circuit is more understandable than lewis just forgetting to stop at the end of the pitlane at 50 mph...

 

With regards to 'team orders' we didn't hear any radio transmissions but Nick did let Robert passed very easily into turn one. He was able to keep Alonso behind him for another 20 laps (until Fernando reitred) on a similar strategy so I think Nick could have held Robert too the team were just worried about the threat from Renault

Renault? Threat?

 

Not likely.

 

that retarded mongrel should have done as his team suggested and let Alonso past, he wouldn't have missed out on his 2nd place

It was a case of what goes around, comes around for Kimi. I like him but he did exactly the same thing in the last race...

 

I didn't really see all the race, was there really team orders? That sucks for Nick though I'm really pleased Kubica's got a win, he's been great all year.

 

Can't compare the 2

 

Kimi lost control at 200kmh with graining tyres and lost it when he tried to correct a slide in the wet

 

Hamilton didn't see a red light and when he did and knew he was going to crash he turned sharp left to deliberately take out Kimi as taking out Kimi was more benificial to him than taking out Kubica who he would have hit had he stayed on his then trajectory

 

Most blatant piece of cheating since Jerez 97

 

My hatred of Hamilton increased significantly after Canada