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Do they $h!te.

 

Santander never sponsored Alonso at Renault. Telefonica threw the strop when Alonso left Renault, McLaren obtained Santander because of Alonso moving there

 

It looks like you are the one who has to eat "$hite". :lol:

 

If you'd checked your facts you'd have known both Santander originally Banco Central Hispano (Banking) & Telefonica (Telecommunications) were both owned by the Franco Spanish Government until they were privatised (1991 & 1997) in the 1990s. The Spanish Government still owns a substantial minority share in both, to stop it falling out of Spanish hands. (At least they are not as stupid as Margaret Thatcher's UK Conservative Government in the 1980s then!).

 

In short what you have said is like saying that News International (The Sun, The Times, News Of The World) & BSkyB (Sky Television & Digital) are two different companies when they are owned by the same person (Rupert Murdoch)

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I'm not looking forward to Hungary, I think it'll be another Hamilton win :( Infact I can see him winning 5 more races this season but I hope I'm wrong...

 

Go Felipe and Ferrari :D

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It looks like you are the one who has to eat "$hite". :lol:

 

If you'd checked your facts you'd have known both Santander originally Banco Central Hispano (Banking) & Telefonica (Telecommunications) were both owned by the Franco Spanish Government until they were privatised (1991 & 1997) in the 1990s. The Spanish Government still owns a substantial minority share in both, to stop it falling out of Spanish hands. (At least they are not as stupid as Margaret Thatcher's UK Conservative Government in the 1980s then!).

 

In short what you have said is like saying that News International (The Sun, The Times, News Of The World) & BSkyB (Sky Television & Digital) are two different companies when they are owned by the same person (Rupert Murdoch)

but they are two different companies :unsure:

 

just like Renault and Nissan are two different companies even though Renault own 45%+ of Nissan and Nissan own 15%+ of Renault.

 

just because the same person owns them doesn't make them the same. and i knew that Telefonica were Telecoms and Santander is a bank ;)

I'm not looking forward to Hungary, I think it'll be another Hamilton win :( Infact I can see him winning 5 more races this season but I hope I'm wrong...

 

Go Felipe and Ferrari :D

 

 

Ferrari is very weak last two race, I think that Hamilton will be winner in championchip. Hungary is verry slow race, she have many slowly curve, what conforms to Hamilton and BMW. :D

Ferrari and Kimi have been doing a lot of work at the factory the last couple of days and Kimi is confident they have found the solution to the recent slowness of the Ferrari so hopefully these improvements will be apparent at Hungary

 

 

FRIDAY PRACTICE 1

 

1 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:20.981 19

2 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:21.345 0.364 21

3 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.410 0.429 17

4 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:21.535 0.554 18

5 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:21.802 0.821 18

6 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:21.931 0.950 22

7 4 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:22.267 1.286 18

8 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:22.326 1.345 19

9 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:22.370 1.389 22

10 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:22.457 1.476 25

11 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:22.654 1.673 23

12 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:22.700 1.719 16

13 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:22.900 1.919 26

14 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:22.917 1.936 27

15 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:23.093 2.112 26

16 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:23.147 2.166 21

17 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:23.274 2.293 22

18 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:23.353 2.372 25

19 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:23.459 2.478 28

20 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:23.923 2.942 4

Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps

1 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.376 1:19.473 1:20.899 12

2 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:19.945 1:19.480 1:21.140 16

3 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:19.578 1:19.068 1:21.191 16

4 4 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:20.053 1:19.776 1:21.281 19

5 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:19.980 1:19.246 1:21.326 24

6 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:20.006 1:19.546 1:21.516 19

7 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:20.229 1:19.816 1:21.698 15

8 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:20.073 1:20.046 1:21.732 18

9 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:19.942 1:19.486 1:21.767 20

10 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:20.583 1:20.131 1:22.371 19

11 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:20.157 1:20.144 17

12 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:20.888 1:20.332 15

13 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:20.505 1:20.502 16

14 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:20.640 1:20.963 16

15 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:20.748 10

16 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:21.045 7

17 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:21.085 9

18 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:21.332 8

19 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:21.670 9

20 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:22.113 10

 

Not happy with Nick's 16th place. She and his team made same mistake like in German. Nick again last got out in race and happen this. Realy understand why hi always go out last. I know in race will be better, because Nick is maestro for overtakes.

FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2008

 

Results:

 

Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts

1 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 70 Winner 2 10

2 12 Timo Glock Toyota 70 +11.0 secs 5 8

3 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 70 +16.8 secs 6 6

4 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 70 +21.6 secs 7 5

5 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 70 +23.0 secs 1 4

6 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 70 +32.2 secs 10 3

7 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 70 +36.4 secs 9 2

8 4 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 70 +48.3 secs 4 1

9 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 70 +58.8 secs 8

10 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 70 +67.7 secs 15

11 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 70 +70.4 secs 13

12 16 Jenson Button Honda 69 +1 Lap 12

13 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 69 +1 Lap 16

14 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 69 +1 Lap 14

15 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 69 +1 Lap 18

16 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 68 +2 Laps 17

17 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 67 +3 Laps 3

18 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 67 +3 Laps 19

Ret 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 62 +8 Laps 20

Ret 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 22 +48 Laps 11

 

One word for BMW - catastrophe. This time Nick and Robert not guilty because of bad results, this time is guilty team BMW Sauber. Terrible race. Congrats to Heiki and Glock.

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Massa was really unlucky with his engine blowing 3 laps from the finish. Up until then he had driven a great race.

Gutted for Massa, that has almost certainly cost him the WDC and he didn't deserve such cruel misfortune

 

God sure is a fully paid up member of the Lewis Hamilton fan club :(

FORMULA 1 ING MAGYAR NAGYDIJ 2008

 

Results:

 

 

One word for BMW - catastrophe. This time Nick and Robert not guilty because of bad results, this time is guilty team BMW Sauber. Terrible race. Congrats to Heiki and Glock.

I think BMW know that they've got third in the constructors and two top 6 Drivers finshes wrapped up and they're not going to improve. They've done the potentially sensible move by starting to concentrate on making a car for next year which will be closer to McLaren and Ferrari.

Awful for Massa he was doing so well and could have been leading the world championship.

 

However glad Kimi caught up a little on that t*** Hamilton.

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yay for kovy!!!

 

shame he signed the extension and won't be back for us :cry:

 

but luckily both Renaults finished again and Alonso beat w*n**rboy

I think McLaren just signed Kovalainen again because he is quick enough to get points but not quick enough to be a threat to Hamilton (like Alonso was!).

 

Renault did well today.

 

Do they have to have a 3 week break. I'll miss my F1 fix. At least when it does return at the end of the month it will be with a brand new race in a brand new track.

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2008 FORMULA 1 TELEFONICA GRAND PRIX OF EUROPE

 

1 2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:38.176 1:37.859 1:38.989 19

2 22 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:38.464 1:37.954 1:39.199 15

3 4 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber 1:38.347 1:38.050 1:39.392 18

4 1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:38.703 1:38.229 1:39.488 21

5 23 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:38.656 1:38.120 1:39.937 18

6 15 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari 1:38.141 1:37.842 1:40.142 19

7 11 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:37.948 1:37.928 1:40.309 21

8 3 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:38.738 1:37.859 1:40.631 19

9 7 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:38.595 1:38.336 1:40.721 18

10 14 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari 1:38.622 1:38.417 1:40.750 18

11 8 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:38.667 1:38.428 15

12 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:38.268 1:38.435 12

13 12 Timo Glock Toyota 1:38.532 1:38.499 14

14 10 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:38.559 1:38.515 15

15 6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault 1:38.787 1:38.744 15

16 16 Jenson Button Honda 1:38.880 6

17 9 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:39.235 9

18 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:39.268 10

19 17 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:39.811 10

20 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:39.943 9

 

Good results for BMW's drivers, Kubica is third (but she isn't full fuel), Nick is 8th, in second part she have third position, same time like Massa. But in third part she have strategy full fuel and finsih in 8th. That is good. In race Nick make great job. Go Nick! :cheer:

what the hell happened to the Renaults???

 

Alonso was 4th yesterday!!!!!

 

A little drop , and Alonso make mistake in curve after bridge.

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