If anyone who deserves what they get are those scumbags who brutally murdered Garry Newlove from Warrington. The teenagers were found guilty but on they day of the attack 1 teenager was released on bail on another charge and was ordered not to go to Warrington. If only he wasn't released then Garry Newlove would still be living his life.

 

What would happen if these teenagers are released in the future? Would OUR lives be safe at all???

Some people in this thread need to take a step back and actually look at what they're typing (particularly those members on the first page.)

 

"She's capable of anything."

"Anyone who covers up a murder is evil and will harm her own child."

 

:rolleyes: If you love someone you will do anything to cover up for them, especially, as it seems in this case, it's a double-edged sword and you're also scared witless. Which member here wouldn't think twice about turning in a loved one? I'm very sure that if someone I loved made it out to be an accident etc. as I'm sure Huntley did to Carr, I would have doubts. As for "I'm paying for the kid etc.", you're also paying for everything else in this country through taxes. Don't get so worked up...

I could say the same thing to you Clare... Who the hell are YOU to decide who's worthy of anonymity and protection.... Thank fukk you dont run the country, you'd have a 'Vigilantes Charter' out there for any dimwitted, simple-minded, ignorant moron to "have a go" at anyone they saw fit wouldn't you...? Most of these "upstanding moral citizens" out there are chav scum who themselves have criminal records longer than John Holmes' pen*s..... -_- She made one silly mistake out of fear, why should she be hounded the rest of her life for it...? She's done her time in prison, she paid her dues to society, time to let it go ffs..... Same with Thomson and Venables...

 

It's pretty fukked up that Maxine Carr seems to be inspiring more hate-filled bile than the scumbag who actually committed the bloody murders..... What a disgusting, amoral, fukked up country this is..... <_<

 

 

I'm being honest here, I'm sorry if you don't like it but no I don't think she is worthy of protection. I do not put her in the rank as people that do! To me yes I see protecting her as money wasted, I'd rather it go to something worth while.

 

So you think it's alright for kids to go around killing toddlers? And call it a stupid mistake? Yes I can see why people would love you running the country, but we already have people like you running it.

 

That poor child :(

Well said. Agree with you. Someone on another forum says there's a rumour she's living 150 yards from him and all the mothers want to give her a good beating. So there obviously IS public hatred of her.

 

Mum's can understand where you are coming from with this. Why didn't she try to stop it from happening? Why didn't she say anything?

Parents these days have no idea how to parent

What a ridiculously sweeping statement! :mellow:

 

Yes but all these incidents show the depth of anger felt towards Maxine Carr and rightly so I say. No I don't agree with the mistaken identity attacks but would give anyone who did get the real Maxine a good pat on the back as I suspect many people would. Doubt me and the earlier poster are in the minority, more like the majority. Earlier posts in this thread saying she was away in Grimsby and only told some lies, well sorry but that's not how most people see it or there wouldn't be the incidents such as above would there?

I don't give a toss how you or anyone else thinks "most people see it". None of us were in court for her trial. The jurors who heard her story and the judge who passed sentence seem to have believed her story. She hasn't killed anyone. She lied on behalf of the man she loved at the time. Huntley had been accused of previous crimes but had never been convicted. So it's hardly surprising that she believed his story that the police were trying to frame him.

Mum's can understand where you are coming from with this. Why didn't she try to stop it from happening? Why didn't she say anything?

Why didn't she try to stop it happening? BECAUSE SHE WASN'T THERE.

What a ridiculously sweeping statement! :mellow:

 

True, but you go many places these days you see more and more of a decline in parental skills and lack of respect from children. True, by far is it not every family in the country, but it's in a far declining state.

I don't think so at all. There were always parents who don't give a toss about their children and always will be. It's just that it's more publicised now because the media has developed some saintly conscience. Neglect and disrespect always happened!

I don't give a toss how you or anyone else thinks "most people see it". None of us were in court for her trial. The jurors who heard her story and the judge who passed sentence seem to have believed her story. She hasn't killed anyone. She lied on behalf of the man she loved at the time. Huntley had been accused of previous crimes but had never been convicted. So it's hardly surprising that she believed his story that the police were trying to frame him.

 

 

I don't give a toss how you see it frankly. Everyone I know hates her just as much if not more than Huntley. Think that's probably the general opinion around the country judging by threads today on other forums.

Edited January 28, 200817 yr by Crazy Chris

I don't give a toss how you see it frankly. Everyone I know hates her just as much if not more than Huntley. Think that's probably the general opinion around the country judging by threads today on other forums.

So given the choice between the opinions of a jury and a judge who heard all the evidence and a few people - who were not in court for any of the evidence - prepared to share their ignorant opinions on the internet, you'd go with the latter? I really do despair sometimes.

I don't give a toss how you see it frankly. Everyone I know hates her just as much if not more than Huntley. Think that's probably the general opinion around the country judging by threads today on other forums.

Do you not post on The Sun and The Mirror forums?

Yes I do, why? In answer to Suedehead2 it's not just a few people who hate Carr and I don't mean just on the Net. I haven't met anyone who doesn't detest her.

Edited January 29, 200817 yr by Crazy Chris

I don't give a toss how you see it frankly. Everyone I know hates her just as much if not more than Huntley. Think that's probably the general opinion around the country judging by threads today on other forums.

 

i think youve just successfully highlighted how utterly MORONIC some people are then, and you do yourself no favours with your argument here...

 

who in the right mind would hate that dimwit over the person who ACTUALLY COMMITTED THE CRIME, and not only that one but others too...

 

i for one dont detest her, but i DO detest 'lynch mob' thickos...

Yes I do, why? In answer to Suedehead2 it's not just a few people who hate Carr and I don't mean just on the Net. I haven't met anyone who doesn't detest her.

 

....pmsl... the sun /mirror forums, a hotbed for intellictual discourse..... NOT!

Why didn't she try to stop it happening? BECAUSE SHE WASN'T THERE.

 

 

And I said the MUM'S you t***!

I don't think so at all. There were always parents who don't give a toss about their children and always will be. It's just that it's more publicised now because the media has developed some saintly conscience. Neglect and disrespect always happened!

 

ill patronise you now sonny...lol

 

trust me, parenting standards HAVE fallen markedly over the 51 years ive been around... disrespect, bad behaviour, neglect, is far more prevailant now then in the 70's when i was a teenager.

Yes but all these incidents show the depth of anger felt towards Maxine Carr and rightly so I say. No I don't agree with the mistaken identity attacks but would give anyone who did get the real Maxine a good pat on the back as I suspect many people would.

 

Sorry, but you my friend are the perfect example of the sort of person I'm talking about - a sanctimonious, self-righteous, hypocritical vigilante goon on some sort of ridiculous crusade.... I bet you'd go around beating up "paediatricians" thinking they were "paedophiles" wouldn't you...? Get this through your skull mate - MAXINE CARR DID NOT COMMIT ANY ACTS OF MURDER, NOR WAS SHE A WILLING ACCOMPLACE BEFORE, DURING OR EVEN AFTER, THE FACT. SHE LIED TO THE POLICE BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN MANIPULATED BY HUNTLEY OR ELSE WAS IN FEAR OF HER LIFE.. You're just symptomatic of how the vast majority of this country believe any old c**p the tabloids tell you hook, line and sinker.... Thank fukk people like you dont run the country that's all I can say, I'd bloody well emigrate to somewhere much more civilised if that ever happened, you'd probably want to put me in prison for having long hair and dressing a "bit weird"..... <_< Does it make you feel like a man to threaten the life of frail little woman...?

 

People like Huntley are as successful as they are (and there is every evidence that he'd been responsible for a string of sexual offences) because they are plausible, because they can manipulate people... He fooled a lot of people, not just Carr - he fooled the police for long enough (on his previous offences as well as the initial investigation), he fooled the media (who gave him an interview ffs!!!!!), he fooled his employers, he fooled the parents of Holly and Jessica to an extent as well, in other words, he managed to fool a LOT of people much smarter than Maxine Carr.... This guy is an out and out evil, twisted, depraved b/astard, and yet the meeeeedjaaahhhhh and fools like you choose to focus instead on Maxine Carr instead of scumbag who is the perfect example of a sociopathic sexual predator, he fits every psychological profile to a T, and yet managed to operate for years without any consequences... No, society is to blame for people like Ian Huntley, society is to blame for not stopping him before he killed Holly and Jessica, and Christ knows the Pigs had plenty of chances to put the b/astard away, they also had the chance to prevent him from even getting that job in the school in the first place just by maintaining effective record keeping, they fukked THAT up as well..... <_<

trust me, parenting standards HAVE fallen markedly over the 51 years ive been around... disrespect, bad behaviour, neglect, is far more prevailant now then in the 70's when i was a teenager.

 

Spot on Rob, I would say they've fallen dramatically in 30 years, never mind 50... But it doesn't exactly help that parents had their rights to smack their kids taken away really....