February 29, 200817 yr So for you what is the difference between Al Gore and them? Is it personality or is there some difference in issue, and if it's issues what issues do you agree with Gore on that you don't with others? Its not a question of issues really its a question of trust and competence, Gore scores highly on competence and trust whereas Hillary I do not trust and Obama is totally unproven so there has to be doubts about his competence I am not a Democrat fan tbh but Gore impresses me
February 29, 200817 yr Do you feel it's a choice between two good candidates or two poor candidates of which you are trying to select the less evil? I feel it's a choice between two good candidates. Both of them support 90% of the issues I support, and that is alot more then the last election. I think I have decided on Obama...but I would support Clinton 100% if she were to win the Democratic ticket.
February 29, 200817 yr Its not a question of issues really its a question of trust and competence, Gore scores highly on competence and trust whereas Hillary I do not trust and Obama is totally unproven so there has to be doubts about his competence I am not a Democrat fan tbh but Gore impresses me You cannot judge politicians by there outer layer. Obama may be unexperienced, but atleast gay rights have some sort of chance if he or Clinton were to get elected. While the Republicans look at it as a plague, if you lived here for 5 minutes you would know that by how homosexuals were treated.
February 29, 200817 yr i remember someone saying that obama would never get elected as he is black.... now here we are, hes on the brink...
February 29, 200817 yr i remember someone saying that obama would never get elected as he is black.... now here we are, hes on the brink... Even if he gets the nomination I still seriously doubt he will get the presidency itself America has a very strong racist underbelly to it and I have no doubt the colour of his skin will be a big factor on polling day
February 29, 200817 yr Even if he gets the nomination I still seriously doubt he will get the presidency itself America has a very strong racist underbelly to it and I have no doubt the colour of his skin will be a big factor on polling day You also have to remember that there are more african americans and minorities then there are white people in itself. In saying that only a small fraction of the caucasion race is "racist".
February 29, 200817 yr You also have to remember that there are more african americans and minorities then there are white people in itself. In saying that only a small fraction of the caucasion race is "racist". There is also quite a lot of dislike of blacks among the Hispanic community as well as a significant number of whites so even if lets say 1-2m don't vote for him on the grounds of his skin colour that would be enough to swing the presidency tbh even if it is a small number of American voters compared with the size of the population And that is if some white supremacist doesn't put a bullet into Obama on the campaign trail
February 29, 200817 yr I have a nasty feeling that even if Obama is made President - some far-right nutter will assassinate him within a short time.... :(
February 29, 200817 yr I have a nasty feeling that even if Obama is made President - some far-right nutter will assassinate him within a short time.... :( i think you are possibly right there m8.
March 1, 200817 yr The bible belt are the most extreme of the conservatives do you really in your wildest dreams see them voting Democrat because McCain is too liberal for them ? anyone who thinks that is totally out of touch with reality, the bible belt would rather eat their own excrement than vote for a democrat so Mc Cain is assured 100% of the bible belt vote albeit in some cases through gritted teeth No, they won't vote Democrat but they mught choose to stay at home. If an Obama candidacy leaads to more young people voting, that could still be costly. OTOH, some of the more liberal-leaning Republicans might stay at home if Huckabee was on the ticket.
March 1, 200817 yr Even if he gets the nomination I still seriously doubt he will get the presidency itself America has a very strong racist underbelly to it and I have no doubt the colour of his skin will be a big factor on polling day I have to disagree. A few months ago BBC2 NewsNight did a lengthy piece from several states in the Deep South of the USA asking the (hypothetical) question whether they'd rather have a Afro Caribbean male as President or a Woman. The overwhelming result (something like 68% to 32%) was they would rather have a Afro Caribbean male than a woman. Arguably proving that the Deep South / Bible belt of America today is more Sexist than Racist.
March 2, 200817 yr Even if he gets the nomination I still seriously doubt he will get the presidency itself America has a very strong racist underbelly to it and I have no doubt the colour of his skin will be a big factor on polling day I can't wait for Obama to be voted President because all you people (none of whom have ever lived in the US) will be proven wrong. EDIT: Made a generalization last night I regret... still, I hope Obama's election will prove America isn't as racist (anymore) as many believe it is. Edited March 2, 200817 yr by Consie
March 2, 200817 yr I can't wait for Obama to be voted President because all you people (none of whom have ever lived in the US) will be proven wrong. EDIT: Made a generalization last night I regret... still, I hope Obama's election will prove America isn't as racist (anymore) as many believe it is. :lol:.... well said!
March 2, 200817 yr Both of them are a million times better than Bush. Would support both but voted for Obama as I feel he could make more of a difference than Hillary.
March 2, 200817 yr No, they won't vote Democrat but they mught choose to stay at home. If an Obama candidacy leaads to more young people voting, that could still be costly. OTOH, some of the more liberal-leaning Republicans might stay at home if Huckabee was on the ticket. A die hard Republican staying at home is the equivalent of a vote for a Democrat, it simply won't happen mate
March 2, 200817 yr A die hard Republican staying at home is the equivalent of a vote for a Democrat, it simply won't happen mate Republication have not been voting so much as democrats in the primaries, starting from the first state. Pres. Bush rating is low among republications, this suggests that the come the election republications will stay at home. Also the voting on the democratic side have been record numbers, which would indicate an plus for the democratic nomination.
March 2, 200817 yr Whilst I'd like to see a woman in power, I'm not convinced Clinton is necessarily the right woman. I guess I'd call myself leaning more towards Conservative than Labour, but I don't think Thatcher was the right woman either for us to have as the first female PM. If there ever is to be a woman as President, I'd want it to be the right one. If I'm honest I don't really know an awful lot about how the US System works - even the basics, and I find it kinda difficult to come by the info without being talked down to like I'm an idiot who should know it all already. But, my assumption on what I've read so far is that the Republican party are similar to our Conservatives, and the Democrats more like labour? Therefore, I think it's strange that I, as someone who'd probably want Conservative power here, wants Democratic power in the USA - I just think it's the right path for them. All I do know is that after the last 8 year long farce of Bush, I couldn't handle another term of Republican's in power with McCain. So right now, I'm leaning towards Obama.
March 3, 200817 yr I can't wait for Obama to be voted President because all you people (none of whom have ever lived in the US) will be proven wrong. Couldn't agree more!
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