Twas only on TV about 20 mins ago :lol: I doubt it's online yet

The difference is that GA have performed live for weeks and weeks on Popstars before getting into the band, so people kind of knew what they were able to do or not.

 

but some people are raving about their vocal abilities when actually we have no proof of it since they did one live TV performance (and that was not good lol) and two mimed TV performances.

The Saturdays HAVE performed live for weeks too, so we do have proof that they can perform live - every night on the Tangled Up tour. I'll experience it again at Pop In The Park on 3rd August.

The Saturdays HAVE performed live for weeks too, so we do have proof that they can perform live - every night on the Tangled Up tour. I'll experience it again at Pop In The Park on 3rd August.

 

Yeah but the whole UK don't attend GA tour unfortunately.

And it's easier to sing live at gigs when you have the crowd and everything than on a TV stage when there's no noise at all and just the acts and the mic.

I'm sure the little "big" girl and the brunette with long hair can sing though, they have strong voices, however the two blondes sound awful to me from what I've heard (and looks like idiots).

Btw, could someone send me their HQ songs from the album?

Bit gutted that they mimed but on the plus side they look amazing. Glad they've styled up a little bit (except Mollie) :heehee:

 

I thought you didn't like them Bertie? :/ There are no HQs of the album tracks, just If This Is Love and Set Me Off.

Btw, could someone send me their HQ songs from the album?

Their arent any available. Just a megamix of 4 30 second clips from the album on youtube.

Peyton, dear...calm down - you'll be melting your Cheeky Girl 12"s....

 

You've obviously Googled the Yazoo lyrics (I'd hardly expect you to know them... or to even have heard the song before The Saturdays ransacked it :lol: )... you could have chosen the verses... or would just picking the lyrically unchallenging chorus somehow add strength to your (supposed) argument? Hmm...

 

blue eyed dressed for every situation

moving through the doorway of a nation

pick me up and shake the doubt

baby i can't do without

 

chorus

move out, don't mess around

move out, you bring me down

move out, how you get about

don't make a sound just move out

 

i remember only for an hour

move right through me can you feel the power

i don't know what's going on

it scares me but it won't take long

 

repeat chorus

 

now he's in control he is my lover

nations stand against him he's your brother

been a long time, been a long time now

i'll get to you somehow

 

If you're looking for a great lyricist - you really shouldn't need to look much further than Alison Moyet, actually (not the Yazoo stuff - Yazoo were primarily a dance act... just to let you know)... then again... perhaps her lyrics may not err... 'speak' to you.

 

Yes, I googled the lyrics. Just like you did there.

If you look again at my post, I said it was 12 lines and that chorus, after I'd posted the lyrics to the chorus.

And I don't know why you're arguing that I should've posted the verses, because they're far from extraordinary.

Yazoo are the act that The Saturday's sampled, not Alison Moyet.

Yes, I get that she was in the band, but her solo material is not part of the argument.

You're making out that this original song is this big huge frickin' masterpiece.

Yeah, it's good, but the lyrics are rubbish.

"They were primarily a dance act" is no excuse to have rubbish lyrics.

If she's so wonderful at writing them, why aren't all of the songs she's been involved with immaculately written?

I thought you didn't like them Bertie? :/

 

As usual you thought wrong then :lol: I think 3 of them have no talent at all but I've always said ITIL is a cool pop song ^_^

Plus I was one of the most excited guys in the audience when they performed at the O2 Arena, so they should be thankful for that :lol:

 

Yes, I googled the lyrics. Just like you did there.

If you look again at my post, I said it was 12 lines and that chorus, after I'd posted the lyrics to the chorus.

 

So why not put the full lyric on instead of the chorus? As I said - did only putting the throwaway part of the Situation lyrics somehow make your 'argument' stronger? :D Of course not. As for Googling the lyrics - of course, I couldn't be arsed to type them - but surely everyone knows the lyrics to Situation anyway. Apart from you, of course.

 

Yazoo are the act that The Saturday's sampled, not Alison Moyet.

Yes, I get that she was in the band, but her solo material is not part of the argument.

We were talking about lyrics, remember? And Moyet wrote the lyrics to Situation. When she was 14.....

 

 

You're making out that this original song is this big huge frickin' masterpiece.

 

It is a masterpiece - and recognised as one, too. In fact, it's probably the most sampled record of all time..... and was one of the first true 'electropop' songs (it was only ever a b-side in the UK, bizarrely, until it was re-released in 1990 - it was also a massive American club hit and still gets played to this day - in fact, Groove Armada played it as the last song on their most recent DJ outings and at their weekender gig recently. Wikipedia it - it's a pretty awesome song with an even more impressive history.

 

"They were primarily a dance act" is no excuse to have rubbish lyrics.

If she's so wonderful at writing them, why aren't all of the songs she's been involved with immaculately written?

 

I pointed you to Moyet's lyrical greatness - it's up to you to discover just how great she is if you can be arsed - unlikely, I know. And as I said - Situation, alongwith Yazoo's Ode to Boy and Winter Kills.... all written when Moyet was 14 - quite an achievement by anyone's standards.

 

So why not put the full lyric on instead of the chorus? As I said - did only putting the throwaway part of the Situation lyrics somehow make your 'argument' stronger? :D Of course not. As for Googling the lyrics - of course, I couldn't be arsed to type them - but surely everyone knows the lyrics to Situation anyway. Apart from you, of course.

We were talking about lyrics, remember? And Moyet wrote the lyrics to Situation. When she was 14.....

It is a masterpiece - and recognised as one, too. In fact, it's probably the most sampled record of all time..... and was one of the first true 'electropop' songs (it was only ever a b-side in the UK, bizarrely, until it was re-released in 1990 - it was also a massive American club hit and still gets played to this day - in fact, Groove Armada played it as the last song on their most recent DJ outings and at their weekender gig recently. Wikipedia it - it's a pretty awesome song with an even more impressive history.

I pointed you to Moyet's lyrical greatness - it's up to you to discover just how great she is if you can be arsed - unlikely, I know. And as I said - Situation, alongwith Yazoo's Ode to Boy and Winter Kills.... all written when Moyet was 14 - quite an achievement by anyone's standards.

 

I didn't want to post the full set of lyrics because I didn't want to spam up the thread.

There's already so much arguing and negativity, I didn't want to add even more than necessary.

As I said, the lyrics don't really get much better in the verses.

 

I doubt that everyone knows "Situation".

You'd be quite right in thinking that I had never heard it before The Saturdays had sampled it.

Well if it's one of the most sampled records of all times, how come I've never heard it?

I own nearly 700 CDs (674 to be exact) and I'm 19. I've heard quite a lot of music...

 

Yes, writing a song at 14 is very good. But it's lyrically quite pants.

Kelly Clarkson wrote "Because Of You" around the same age and that's one hundred times better than "Situation".

 

Kelly Clarkson wrote "Because Of You" around the same age and that's one hundred times better than "Situation".

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: and with that phrase, possibly the most unintentionally funny line I've read on this site ever... this conversation definitely has to come to an end.

 

One more thing, though - if you don't even know the original... how do you know if you've heard it sampled or not? Even Moyet's laugh on the song has been sampled oodles.

Well if "If This Is Love" is so much like it, surely I've heard it?

 

And if you really think that Situation's lyrics are better than Because Of You's, then your obsession with that band has clearly left you demented.

Wow, this is catty. But that last line from Peyton was rather amusing (and on-point).

 

To sum up, Situation has sh!t lyrics (and vocals) but a stunning instrumental.

Is this one of the cattiest threads ever on Buzzjack? or is it quite chilled compared to some that you've seen in the past? :o

There's already so much arguing and negativity, I didn't want to add even more than necessary.

 

oh lord.... still some dont understand what tf an internet FORUM is about <_<

 

the discussion here has been largely respectful and both sides have been discussion the merits and detriments of this track. this is exactly what a forum should be doing...

 

as for the first time (?) in bj's history 4 old buggers have ALL ripped into this track, maybe some here ought to take note. as we are here to talk music, not to bum lick this puppet pop act.... and thats what they are, an ACT.

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Well if it's one of the most sampled records of all times, how come I've never heard it?

 

erm... that highlights your lack of musical knowlege :lol:

the discussion here has been largely respectful and both sides have been discussion the merits and detriments of this track. this is exactly what a forum should be doing...

That is the biggest load of cr@p I've read in the whole thread and you bloody well know it. There's no respect; you guys who don't like the track don't respect our opinions. When we post positively you pick fault with everything we're saying; there's debate and there's sheer negativity, and when you get the likes of that Russt creature offending people with his cringing tone of superiority, the line has been crossed.

That is the biggest load of cr@p I've read in the whole thread and you bloody well know it. There's no respect; you guys who don't like the track don't respect our opinions. When we post positively you pick fault with everything we're saying; there's debate and there's sheer negativity, and when you get the likes of that Russt creature offending people with his cringing tone of superiority, the line has been crossed.

 

thats largely nonsense, there been very little personal attacks on this thread. there is some truth in the fact that 'us oldies' dont respect your views though. because like it or not, you aint equal! you are debating here with people who have been part of and witnesed the evolution of popular music since the 60's... so accept it or not, our perspective aint the same as some spotty kids! :P lol.. the overriding message here that us oldies are saying is that the shyte-adays are p*** poor, they are confetti.. cheap, pretty, pop puppets that offer nothing then a shallow 3 minute no brainer.. ok that sort of music does have its place, but music ... real music offers so much more. thats why ive been saying 'dont think they are something they arnt'..

 

the 'negetivity' you talk off is what id call realism, dont believe the hype, see them for what they are and not as some new supergroup.. because they will never be anything more then a unit shifting production line.

Who are you to tell us not to 'believe the hype'?! We've formed our own opinions. I don't say 'Ooh, Radio 1 are playing this and Popjustice like it so it MUST be good. I like it too!'. I like the songs I've heard and can freely admit they're manufactured and lack artistry - but then that is exactly what Girls Aloud were at their career stage. I can also admit not every song sounds that good (Keep Her sounds c**p actually) but I do happen to love If This Is Love and Set Me Off - both just great pop songs. That's my opinion, and no amount of slagging off the use of the sample in ITIL is going to change that.

 

And there have been personal attacks, although not from you because you're largely good at keeping things on-topic, but I can't say the same for everyone...

 

And really, even if they are just 'pop puppets' (though that's debatable - they do write their own lyrics, which is more than can be said for other popstars who get the 'puppet' accusation, such as Rachel Stevens) why should that stop anybody from enjoying them to the fullest? It's brilliant to enjoy musical artists who write, produce, sing excellently, have a real sense of artistry - but good old-fashioned pure pop shouldn't be overlooked either.