June 3, 200619 yr The way I look at it is, New York passed the ball, London booted it into the net. We scored the goal, but definitely got the assist from NY.... exactly!.... we took the inspiration for basic sleazy rock out of nyc and in our political climate it found a home, the rest is history. ....... and my point about macclaren stands! :P lol.
June 3, 200619 yr I wouldn't mind watching this. Can someone post the time it's on please? bbc2 tonight at 9.10pm.. :)
June 3, 200619 yr ....... and my point about macclaren stands! :P lol. What point was that? That he was a ginger c**t....? :lol: :lol:
June 3, 200619 yr ok, it could be argued that macclaren was the one to promote punk, and westwood gave the clothing a helping hand, right time, right place n all.. but punk was happening and would have happend with or without them two... Yeah, I'd go along with that, McClaren was a loud-mouthed tw@t who just jumped on a train that had already gone two stops (he had bugger all to do with The Damned's "New Rose", which was the first UK Punk rock single in early '76 and The Pistols were already a going concern before he got his hooks into... them...) I would say the Punk rockers gave Vivienne Westwood the hand she needed, not the other way round.... The music came before the image, and it would've happened regardless....
June 3, 200619 yr I watched the programme, and while it was certainly watchable it suffered from concentrating far too much on the emerging punk scene. Like a lot of documentaries, it does everything based on hindsight. Most people didn't have a clue who the Sex Pistols were, or what punk was in the summer of 1976. Again, like other documentaries it was very London-centric, concentrating on what was happening in London, when again most people in the country didn't care. I'm not sure what the programme was really meant to be - a look back at 1976, from the viewpoint of someone in 1976, or a lookback at 1976 with one eye on what then happened in the years to come (ie with hindsight). The choice of music was quite mixed up too - playing Fernando by Abba (OK, it was mixed in with a piece about forest fires, hence the video for Fernando which has a camp fire in the background) but seemingly ignoring Dancing Queen (I can't remember hearing it). The latter went to #1 near the end of the heatwave, Fernando was #1 months earlier. Did they show Borg? One highlight of that summer was his first win at Wimbledon. They showed enough of the cricket, which probably was the sporting event of the summer (the West Indies beating England) but Borg's win at Wimbledon was memorable too. The one thing that did make me laugh was the bit about the infestation of ladybirds which hit the UK that summer - I'd totally forgotten about that!
June 3, 200619 yr the weather was very hot, year of the last major drought,didn't rain much at all from April to October,same could be said for some decent music as well, a serious void of anything remotely memorable :lol: yeah, 1976 was a bit of a strange year. The music was largely non-descript, though at the time (being young) I did obviously enjoy it. That said, 1977 wasn't that much better. Punk (in 1977) never really affected the charts in the way people imagine, the charts were still dominated by middle of the road pop acts. 1978 was the watershed, when disco and new wave combined to create a more vibrant chart...
June 4, 200619 yr I would say the Punk rockers gave Vivienne Westwood the hand she needed, not the other way round.... The music came before the image, and it would've happened regardless.... good point... hmm.. i thought the programme lacked direction, it was ok for nostalgia, but as has already been mentioned, was too concentrating on the punk scene, which might have been happening in london but the rest of the country had to wait until 77 before it really became well known.. id suggest that 79-81 were the best years (ever?) for variety in the charts... punk, ska, new wave, pop, disco, rock, new romantics, reggae, rockabilly and even fern kinney! :puke2:, lol..
June 4, 200619 yr As im only 22, it was an interesting programme, especially the Notting Hill Riots, as it showed how discracefully the black population was treated at the time :angry: The good thing about Punk is that it was Multi Cultural & anti facist. My dad who used to be a punk fan, said that he & alot of other punks were in the Anti Nazi League & had a few rucks with the National Front lol Personally i think Two Tone/Ska music really helped bring racial harmony to this country. With the black comunity at least. Edited June 4, 200619 yr by Joey Deacon
June 4, 200619 yr As im only 22, it was an interesting programme, especially the Notting Hill Riots, as it showed how discracefully the black population was treated at the time :angry: The good thing about Punk is that it was Multi Cultural & anti facist. My dad who used to be a punk fan, said that he & alot of other punks were in the Anti Nazi League & had a few rucks with the National Front lol Personally i think Two Tone/Ska music really helped bring racial harmony to this country. With the black comunity at least. you're right, as ska was black music anyway itd be hard for the two tone crowd to be racist!..
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