June 9, 200619 yr Northern Ireland would erupt into more chaos -_- Given our current politicians, that would/may be a big YES!! :unsure: Firstly, the ignorant way Americans constantly refer to anyone from Great Britain as from 'England'.... HOW rude is that? In response, if this happens to me, I ask them if they're Canadian - ALWAYS does the trick. Oh, that really annoys me too, tho for me it's when I get called Irish just because I live in Northern Ireland... which, at the minute, is British!
June 9, 200619 yr I'm interested to hear your opinion on being called Irish Sharon B! One of my closest friends comes and lives in Belfast and he has NO problem with being called Irish.
June 9, 200619 yr It probably depends on whether you're nationalist or loyalist, catholic or protestant....tho that's not always the case! I know/have friends who are catholic and happy being British, and protestant and happy being known as Irish! It's a very personal thing! It's not something that I think about daily to be honest, but I once told someone I came from Belfast, the capital of Northern Ireland and was greeted with 'Oh, I thought Dublin was the capital' :rolleyes:
June 9, 200619 yr What are people's thoughts on what Mayor Ken (I live in London) said about the Scottish the other day? Did anyone hear? No. What has he said now? Ken hates the Scots. :rolleyes: :angry:
June 9, 200619 yr This is in now way my thoughts of opinions. I am only the messenger. He said thus about building the Crossrail: "We need Crossrail to keep London's economy ticking over so that we can continue to pay for the Scottish to live the lifestyle to which they are accustomed." I only quote!
June 9, 200619 yr Firstly, the ignorant way Americans constantly refer to anyone from Great Britain as from 'England'.... HOW rude is that? In response, if this happens to me, I ask them if they're Canadian - ALWAYS does the trick. :rofl: Wales were doing fine until England took them over. We had our own language, a very deep culture and England comes and ruins it all. We almost lost the welsh language. luckily, although the Welsh council mainly focuses on the South, we are viewed as our own country by many, and not just seen as englands neigbour. our sports teams, music stars and events are gerarded as some of the best in the world, and we dont have to be associated with england to make it work. Yes, we do need England for some things. The welsh council would more than likely be useless if they were left to run the whole country on their own. i think its good the way it is now. We have support from other countries, but we have our own identity and heritage
June 10, 200619 yr why wouldn't Wales be able to govern ourselves? Remember - Wales was living independently AND speaking a language when the rest of the British Isles were living in caves and grunting. And also - at least Wales can build a football stadium... and we're even kind enough to let you lot borrow it all the bloody time. If Wales had been free from England, the coal industry, for one thing, wouldn't have been decimated by Thatcher during her dictatorship - and we wouldn't have been forced to live under Tory rule for the whole of the 80s - same with Scotland. The bloody English put her in - not Wales and Scotland, remember. but Wales is a part of England and has been for many years. its the union flag thing.
June 10, 200619 yr Given our current politicians, that would/may be a big YES!! :unsure: Oh, that really annoys me too, tho for me it's when I get called Irish just because I live in Northern Ireland... which, at the minute, is British! well its part of the united kingdom of great britain and nothern ireland. so thats ambigous
June 10, 200619 yr but Wales is a part of England and has been for many years. its the union flag thing. Wales is a part of England? :o Think you better 'duck' Tigerboy. :lol:
June 10, 200619 yr Wales is a part of England? :o Think you better 'duck' Tigerboy. :lol: The term Principality of Wales, in Welsh, Tywysogaeth Cymru, is sometimes used, although the Prince of Wales has no role in the governance of Wales and this term is unpopular among some. Wales has not been a sovereign state since 1282, when King Edward I of England defeated Welsh monarch Llywelyn II in the Battle of Cilmeri, although it was recognised as an independent nation by Spain, France and Ireland during Owain Glyndŵr's War of Liberation between 1400 and 1410.
June 10, 200619 yr so how do you actually pronounce Pobol y Cwm then? :huh: wont be pobbol ee cum will it?
June 10, 200619 yr Wales may not have been a sovereign state for centuries but surely geographically it isn't part of England? :o Or are all my atlases wrong??? :o :o :o Politically I don't know what the status of Wales actually is. It was annexed by England wasn't it? There was no treaty of Union or anything? Maybe legally it is part of England? Yikes.... :o The Tudors were Welsh weren't they? :unsure:
June 10, 200619 yr Wales may not have been a sovereign state for centuries but surely geographically it isn't part of England? :o Or are all my atlases wrong??? :o :o :o Politically I don't know what the status of Wales actually is. It was annexed by England wasn't it? There was no treaty of Union or anything? Maybe legally it is part of England? Yikes.... :o The Tudors were Welsh weren't they? :unsure: Geographicly part of the island of Great Britain. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/UKEngland_and_Wales.png legally: England and Wales are home nations of the United Kingdom and, because they share the same legal system, England and Wales is considered a single unit for the conflict of laws (sometimes termed a single state). The other countries of the United Kingdom, namely Scotland and Northern Ireland, as well as dependencies such as the Isle of Man and the Bailiwicks of Jersey and Guernsey, are also separate states (in this strictly legalistic sense; they are not separate states under public international law), each with their own legal system (see the more complete explanation in English law). As another example, in the sport of cricket, England and Wales field a single representative team in international competition, whereas Scotland is treated as a separate entity. The England and Wales team (usually abbreviated simply as England) is administered by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB). Nonetheless, there is a separate Wales team that occasionally participates in limited-overs domestic competition [1]. Wales was brought under a common monarch with England with the Statute of Rhuddlan in 1284 and annexed to England for legal purposes by the Laws in Wales Acts 1535-1542. However, references in legislation for 'England' were still taken as excluding Wales. The Wales and Berwick Act 1746 meant that in all future laws, 'England' would by default include Wales (and Berwick-upon-Tweed). This was later repealed in 1967 and current laws use "England and Wales" as a single entity.
June 10, 200619 yr not sure, all I know is that England won a war may years ago, which resulted in the welsh language nearly dying. It was never ruled under england until that time. At the moment , it runs its own education and health, but the major things are still under english control
June 10, 200619 yr Well that makes it all clear then. :rofl: Honestly, this UK of ours is such a mess constitutionally. :rolleyes:
June 10, 200619 yr not sure, all I know is that England won a war may years ago, which resulted in the welsh language nearly dying. It was never ruled under england until that time. all you need to know @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_%28terminology%29
June 10, 200619 yr oo thanks, I really should know more about it, but im young so I dont have to :cheer: :lol:
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