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Couldn't save you from the start, love you so much it hurts my soul

Can you forgive me for trying again, your silence makes me hold my breath

Oh, time has passed you by

Ooh, for so long i've tried to shield you from the world

Ooh, you couldn't face the freedom on your own

Here I am left in silence, you gave up the fight

You left me behind, all thats done is forgiven

You'll always be mine, I know deep inside

All thats done is forgiven

I watched the clouds drifting away, still the sun can't warm my face

I know it was destined to go wrong, you were looking for the great escape to chase your demons away

I've been so lost since you've gone

Why not me before you

Why did fate deceive me, everything turned out so wrong

Why did you leave me in silence, you gave up the fight

All thats done is forgiven

 

Edited November 19, 200816 yr by ~Katherine~

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Woops thanks Chris

I think this is the weakest song off the "Heart of Everything" album to be honest, is this just coming out now....? Seems very late, the HoE album was released about 18 months ago...

 

"Our Solemn Hour" should've been released as a single if anything, this sure aint gonna break them on an Evanescence level in the UK or US...

I think this is the weakest song off the "Heart of Everything" album to be honest, is this just coming out now....? Seems very late, the HoE album was released about 18 months ago...

 

"Our Solemn Hour" should've been released as a single if anything, this sure aint gonna break them on an Evanescence level in the UK or US...

It probably is their weakest on the album. But the group seems to only stick to countries like Germany, Austria etc and not the UK, US. So it won't really even make a difference. This song is still beautiful. My favourite off 'The Heart Of Everything' is 'The Heart Of Everything'. I reckon if this went properly global, it could have done pretty well. 'Our Solemn Hour' imo is better as an album track than a single.

It probably is their weakest on the album. But the group seems to only stick to countries like Germany, Austria etc and not the UK, US. So it won't really even make a difference. This song is still beautiful. My favourite off 'The Heart Of Everything' is 'The Heart Of Everything'. I reckon if this went properly global, it could have done pretty well. 'Our Solemn Hour' imo is better as an album track than a single.

 

I dunno, they're breaking through a bit here in UK... Their last UK shows were at fair sized venues, I saw them tour the "Heart Of Everything" at the Astoria in London.... Their music is wonderful, but they need to show more ambition, and get out there and play the big arena shows (which their incredibly epic music so desperately cries out for, I know this because I've seen them at the Wacken Festival in Germany, and OH MY GOD what a show they put on...); it's so annoying when you see lesser bands becoming famous (and as much as I may like Evanescence's "Open Door" album I still feel that they are inferior to WT...) while genuinely fantastic ones still reside in the shadows.... Sharon is a fukkin' STAR and she deserves to be as big (if not bigger) than Amy Lee, who is clearly a lesser vocal talent....

 

I dunno, they're breaking through a bit here in UK... Their last UK shows were at fair sized venues, I saw them tour the "Heart Of Everything" at the Astoria in London.... Their music is wonderful, but they need to show more ambition, and get out there and play the big arena shows (which their incredibly epic music so desperately cries out for, I know this because I've seen them at the Wacken Festival in Germany, and OH MY GOD what a show they put on...); it's so annoying when you see lesser bands becoming famous (and as much as I may like Evanescence's "Open Door" album I still feel that they are inferior to WT...) while genuinely fantastic ones still reside in the shadows.... Sharon is a fukkin' STAR and she deserves to be as big (if not bigger) than Amy Lee, who is clearly a lesser vocal talent....

I HAVE THE EXACT SAME opinion! I mean Ice Queen is probably my song of the decade and I don't know how the music industry works these days. As it seems success comes randomly and not deservingly so as good as WT are they probably won't get that real breakthrough in this pop dance age. Even though they've been around for ten odd years. I am a HUUUGE fan and would prostitute just to see them live! But whats great is that WT still have good fan bases and at least ARE getting recognized. Compare a cheap $h!t group like The Saturdays with WT and you'll see what music taste is like these days. f***ing annoying and appalling! Even Evanescence barely lasted, after around 2005, all rockish music barely had any success no matter how good it was and that's just sad especially for WT

I HAVE THE EXACT SAME opinion! I mean Ice Queen is probably my song of the decade and I don't know how the music industry works these days. As it seems success comes randomly and not deservingly so as good as WT are they probably won't get that real breakthrough in this pop dance age. Even though they've been around for ten odd years. I am a HUUUGE fan and would prostitute just to see them live! But whats great is that WT still have good fan bases and at least ARE getting recognized. Compare a cheap $h!t group like The Saturdays with WT and you'll see what music taste is like these days. f***ing annoying and appalling! Even Evanescence barely lasted, after around 2005, all rockish music barely had any success no matter how good it was and that's just sad especially for WT

 

Well, it's easy to say that Evanescence failed, judging purely by the poor performance of singles (which for the most part was BAD choices and poor promotion from their absolutely useless record comapany, there was absolutely NO REASON why "Lithium", a fukkin' BEAUTIFUL contemporary Rock Ballad didn't go absolute SUPERNOVA though....)... BUT, "The Open Door" album has sold over six million copies worldwide and reached Top 10 in just about every territory it was released, according to figures published on Wikipedia.... Hardly a failure now, I mean, considering that Coldplay's "X and Y" sold around 8 million and they are considered a massive success, but the difference is only TWO million albums between the bands, yet "The Open Door" is considered to have failed, explain that one to me, cos I just dont get it :wacko: ....

 

You're spot on about The Saturdays (and the even WORSE Pussycat Dolls....), a cheap, nasty, useless group who really shouldn't even be uttered in the same breath as either Evanescene or Within Temptation if we're being honest..... ;)

Well, it's easy to say that Evanescence failed, judging purely by the poor performance of singles (which for the most part was BAD choices and poor promotion from their absolutely useless record comapany, there was absolutely NO REASON why "Lithium", a fukkin' BEAUTIFUL contemporary Rock Ballad didn't go absolute SUPERNOVA though....)... BUT, "The Open Door" album has sold over six million copies worldwide and reached Top 10 in just about every territory it was released, according to figures published on Wikipedia.... Hardly a failure now, I mean, considering that Coldplay's "X and Y" sold around 8 million and they are considered a massive success, but the difference is only TWO million albums between the bands, yet "The Open Door" is considered to have failed, explain that one to me, cos I just dont get it :wacko: ....

 

You're spot on about The Saturdays (and the even WORSE Pussycat Dolls....), a cheap, nasty, useless group who really shouldn't even be uttered in the same breath as either Evanescene or Within Temptation if we're being honest..... ;)

Fallen sold over 15 million copies and The Open Door 6. Now if you compare the two and consider that Fallen was released a few years before The Open Door.. The age of rock/alternative music is practically over. It is now completely $h!ty pop. I wouldnt compare Coldplay with Evanescence or WT. Coldplay is a really great band, but their sound seems to fit in with the current music trends and WT won't have any gaps to fit into the current trends because The Saturdays, PCD, Alphabeat and $h!t have all got these gaps. VERY RARELY does an actually alternative or metal band do well on the charts and if they do its hardly for even a month. I mean Metallica 'The Day That Never Comes' made great new entries across the globe and then fell like bricks. Then you get Coldplay, The Verve and I suppose you can say KOL were basically the only rock/indie bands that did good this year on the charts. But WT is almost the opposite of them. . Ah I can rant forever but Ev and WT probably know they won't be more successful again and I know that, unfortunately. . Promoting might even be a waste of money

Fallen sold over 15 million copies and The Open Door 6. Now if you compare the two and consider that Fallen was released a few years before The Open Door.. The age of rock/alternative music is practically over. It is now completely $h!ty pop. I wouldnt compare Coldplay with Evanescence or WT. Coldplay is a really great band, but their sound seems to fit in with the current music trends and WT won't have any gaps to fit into the current trends because The Saturdays, PCD, Alphabeat and $h!t have all got these gaps. VERY RARELY does an actually alternative or metal band do well on the charts and if they do its hardly for even a month. I mean Metallica 'The Day That Never Comes' made great new entries across the globe and then fell like bricks. Then you get Coldplay, The Verve and I suppose you can say KOL were basically the only rock/indie bands that did good this year on the charts. But WT is almost the opposite of them. . Ah I can rant forever but Ev and WT probably know they won't be more successful again and I know that, unfortunately. . Promoting might even be a waste of money

 

Well, I've got serious issues with Coldplay anyway... LOL, cant stand em tbh, and Lord knows I've tried.... :lol: I only mentioned Coldplay cos the sales figures for Coldplay "X and Y" and Ev "Open Door" aren't really all that dis-similar, and yet Ev are branded a "failure" somehow and Coldplay just get totally bummed by the media.... I was never a big fan of "Fallen" either, the production was just far too Poppy for me, I preferred the demo versions of most of the "Fallen" tracks that I downloaded from their "Origin" and "Not For Your Ears" era, before the signed to Wind Up... "The Open Door" is a more awkward, less straight-forward 'Poppy' sounding album than "Fallen" was and I frankly dont believe that Wind Up had the slightest clue how to promote it, the singles they chose were just odd for the most part ("Call Me When You're Sober" - okay but nothing special; "Sweet Sacrifice" - worked better as an album track IMO; "Good Enough" - fukkin' TERRIBLE, like Lloyd Webber gone wrong, I just cant listen to this song; "Lithium" - the one they got 100% spot on, but somehow it just didn't happen).... Ev should ditch Wind Up and maybe sign up with a proper Metal/Hard Rock label like Roadrunner or maybe even team up with someone like Rick Rubin, Andy Sneap (member of Black Metal band Sabbat and seriously talented producer..) or Ross Robinson for their next album... I think it proves that bands like Evanescence really should just concentrate more on selling albums and touring and leave the singles charts to the cack, that sort of ethos did no harm for the likes of Led Zeppelin or 70s Pink Floyd really, and they were two of the greatest bands of all time....

Well, I've got serious issues with Coldplay anyway... LOL, cant stand em tbh, and Lord knows I've tried.... :lol: I only mentioned Coldplay cos the sales figures for Coldplay "X and Y" and Ev "Open Door" aren't really all that dis-similar, and yet Ev are branded a "failure" somehow and Coldplay just get totally bummed by the media.... I was never a big fan of "Fallen" either, the production was just far too Poppy for me, I preferred the demo versions of most of the "Fallen" tracks that I downloaded from their "Origin" and "Not For Your Ears" era, before the signed to Wind Up... "The Open Door" is a more awkward, less straight-forward 'Poppy' sounding album than "Fallen" was and I frankly dont believe that Wind Up had the slightest clue how to promote it, the singles they chose were just odd for the most part ("Call Me When You're Sober" - okay but nothing special; "Sweet Sacrifice" - worked better as an album track IMO; "Good Enough" - fukkin' TERRIBLE, like Lloyd Webber gone wrong, I just cant listen to this song; "Lithium" - the one they got 100% spot on, but somehow it just didn't happen).... Ev should ditch Wind Up and maybe sign up with a proper Metal/Hard Rock label like Roadrunner or maybe even team up with someone like Rick Rubin, Andy Sneap (member of Black Metal band Sabbat and seriously talented producer..) or Ross Robinson for their next album... I think it proves that bands like Evanescence really should just concentrate more on selling albums and touring and leave the singles charts to the cack, that sort of ethos did no harm for the likes of Led Zeppelin or 70s Pink Floyd really, and they were two of the greatest bands of all time....

Yes, but do you see chance for Ev reforming? I mean they only have 3 current members and they're probably only socially associated with each other and not musically. I think there were some really really good tracks on both albums. Did you know- 'Imaginary' and 'Weight Of The World' were released as singles but only in countries like Portugal WTF :hithead: those are definitely amongst my fav Ev songs along with Lithium, GU, Snow White Queen, Whisper, Lose Control etc etc. . Maybe WITHIN TEMPTATION should go to Roadrunner (very unlikely) they certainly are more talented and committed to music. Sure charts don't mean much but they probably are the best promo. . Basically you have to promo to get on the charts for promo LOL and WT tour extensively and are still not the success that they should be, talk about a prick in the foot and I love them so much. Im even considering to change my avvie to the Ice Queen cover

Well i see why they don't get amazing success with THIS. Its not commercial or repetitive enough no matter how good it is it'll never win over the Evanescence crowd or be majorly successful. No casual music fan would sit and listen to this imo :( . That was What Have You Done?'s job but it failed :( :P . Heavier rock is fading away on a commercial basis maybe because its a genre where everyone will use P2P software. Also now people at school the rap/hip hop group is way bigger than the metal group, who wouldn't consider liking this and just bum Thrash, Death and Black metal with those awful growling vocals and blast beats. Those 3 genres that i mentioned really are the worst sort of music ever. It makes my ears bleed and is only popular because it sounds like very loud and deeper white noise or when a radio isn't tuned into a station :lol:

Yes, but do you see chance for Ev reforming? I mean they only have 3 current members and they're probably only socially associated with each other and not musically. I think there were some really really good tracks on both albums. Did you know- 'Imaginary' and 'Weight Of The World' were released as singles but only in countries like Portugal WTF :hithead: those are definitely amongst my fav Ev songs along with Lithium, GU, Snow White Queen, Whisper, Lose Control etc etc. . Maybe WITHIN TEMPTATION should go to Roadrunner (very unlikely) they certainly are more talented and committed to music. Sure charts don't mean much but they probably are the best promo. . Basically you have to promo to get on the charts for promo LOL and WT tour extensively and are still not the success that they should be, talk about a prick in the foot and I love them so much. Im even considering to change my avvie to the Ice Queen cover

Correction. Within Temptation are with Roadrunner

Well i see why they don't get amazing success with THIS. Its not commercial or repetitive enough no matter how good it is it'll never win over the Evanescence crowd or be majorly successful. No casual music fan would sit and listen to this imo :( . That was What Have You Done?'s job but it failed :( :P . Heavier rock is fading away on a commercial basis maybe because its a genre where everyone will use P2P software. Also now people at school the rap/hip hop group is way bigger than the metal group, who wouldn't consider liking this and just bum Thrash, Death and Black metal with those awful growling vocals and blast beats. Those 3 genres that i mentioned really are the worst sort of music ever. It makes my ears bleed and is only popular because it sounds like very loud and deeper white noise or when a radio isn't tuned into a station :lol:

True, but are you saying WT fit under your least favourite genres or under which music type would WT exactly fall under. I reckon they're a music type on their own atm, nothing out there (Evanescence no longer) is like them. That's what I love about the band, but it probably is their downfall

True, but are you saying WT fit under your least favourite genres or under which music type would WT exactly fall under. I reckon they're a music type on their own atm, nothing out there (Evanescence no longer) is like them. That's what I love about the band, but it probably is their downfall

No i worded that post wrong sorry. I mean that no-one i know likes the genre WT are in, including Evanescence when they were there. They aren't Trash or Death metal obviously

No i worded that post wrong sorry. I mean that no-one i know likes the genre WT are in, including Evanescence when they were there. They aren't Trash or Death metal obviously

That's not good WT are one of very few groups/artists these days that actually are quality music. Sharon is definitely up there with history's best vocalists and if people can't recognize that, then Kylie Minogue really got to their heads

No i worded that post wrong sorry. I mean that no-one i know likes the genre WT are in, including Evanescence when they were there. They aren't Trash or Death metal obviously

 

Within Temptation probably fall into either the Gothic or Symphonic Rock categories, along with Nightwish, Theatre Of Tragedy, After Forever and Tristania whom musically they more closely resemble rather than Evanescence; if you listen to WT's earlier stuff they contrast Sharon with more gruff Male vocals.... Not all Thrash/Death is bad... Listen to the 80s stuff especially, the likes of Anthrax, Celtic Frost, Testament and Exodus, who tended to use cleaner vocals, most of these guys are still around actually, Celtic Frost released a frankly amazing album last year, "Monotheist".. Also, a band nowadays which fit loosely into the Death category are Opeth, but they are a highly complex and intricate band who mix in all sorts of other musical influences including Acoustic/Folk music, Prog Rock, etc... Arch Enemy are also a great band, more straightforward Thrash Metal, but they have female lead singer and it seriously works for them...

Sure charts don't mean much but they probably are the best promo. .

 

I would argue the Internet is the best Promo these days... Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails.... I rest my case... :lol: Metal/Rock Bands need the charts like a hole in the head if you ask me, both genres have always done better with album sales than singles; I mean, put it this way, will The Saturdays' debut album even come close to matching the 15 million sales of "Fallen" or the 6 million sales of "Open Door", I very, very much doubt it, and for all her success, there is not a case of one of Kylie's individual album sales matching Evanescence either, or even coming close, not to my knowledge anyway....

 

The Internet is really ideal for bands like Within Temptation or Evanescence, put out a few samplers for the album on websites, or put the whole thing on the internet or in viral campaigns, look how many hits NIN and Radiohead got when they did this, it was massively successful...

 

Within Temptation probably fall into either the Gothic or Symphonic Rock categories, along with Nightwish, Theatre Of Tragedy, After Forever and Tristania whom musically they more closely resemble rather than Evanescence; if you listen to WT's earlier stuff they contrast Sharon with more gruff Male vocals.... Not all Thrash/Death is bad... Listen to the 80s stuff especially, the likes of Anthrax, Celtic Frost, Testament and Exodus, who tended to use cleaner vocals, most of these guys are still around actually, Celtic Frost released a frankly amazing album last year, "Monotheist".. Also, a band nowadays which fit loosely into the Death category are Opeth, but they are a highly complex and intricate band who mix in all sorts of other musical influences including Acoustic/Folk music, Prog Rock, etc... Arch Enemy are also a great band, more straightforward Thrash Metal, but they have female lead singer and it seriously works for them...

Yes! I love Nightwish and Celtic Frost. :heart: strangely enough I haven't even heard that CF even released an album last year. So I better get searching for that? Have you heard Flyleaf? They are pretty new on the seen and I looove them. People say they're a Christian band but none of their songs are really. . I mean when you get those grr growls surely that isn't respectable when singing about Christianity? I love bands with female leads, its so much more easier to relate to for me. Even Paramore, not that they rock or anything but I like them too. I also think that the whole female solo thing should be working way better for WT because seems like most people that listen to music these days are way more bias to female artists than to male artists. Have you heard WT's song 'A Rose For The Dead' when the male vocals came in and male growling it totally f***ed up the song. . Her vocals are soo good I'd like to see Mariah Carey sing 'Ice Queen'

I would argue the Internet is the best Promo these days... Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails.... I rest my case... :lol: Metal/Rock Bands need the charts like a hole in the head if you ask me, both genres have always done better with album sales than singles; I mean, put it this way, will The Saturdays' debut album even come close to matching the 15 million sales of "Fallen" or the 6 million sales of "Open Door", I very, very much doubt it, and for all her success, there is not a case of one of Kylie's individual album sales matching Evanescence either, or even coming close, not to my knowledge anyway....

 

The Internet is really ideal for bands like Within Temptation or Evanescence, put out a few samplers for the album on websites, or put the whole thing on the internet or in viral campaigns, look how many hits NIN and Radiohead got when they did this, it was massively successful...

Yep very true. But a few singles breaking through on the charts would be nice as well. I bet you half the forum probably don't know WT and if they hit the UK charts with a song like Frozen or something then they'd have won over some more fans just from that. People think if a single didnt make the chart it isnt worth listening to. But, WT did have quite some success on the Modern Rock Charts, so they are doing pretty well with album sales etc. . Could have been better if their was just a new turn in direction somewhere