obviously I wouldn't give Spice Girls the 12 like I did in BJSCI but I didn't really get the whole concept of the contest back then :heehee: my voting would be all over the place though and so confusing, do I give Tattoo the 12 because it was unknown back then but is known now? or do I give Push The Button the 12 because it's better than Tattoo but was a cheap entry back then? or do I listen again to all the really unknown entries that I would have proabably not given much of a chance to at the time and give them a 12 because they were the only songs that weren't cheap? all I remember about BJSCI is that it was a sea of cheapness and Macedonian songs :rofl:

 

I don't know about the NSC, but I don't think every idea that works well there also works well here :P

Lauren Rose for BJSC I! :cry: But yes, LOL at the sea of Macedonian songs in the early contests :lol: I'd go with the Best of BJSC voting system - vote for what wasn't cheap at the time :o

 

I think it would be an interesting idea personally, maybe not for all of the contests (BJSC V is essentially a 'modern' contest, and I doubt much would be changed...except MIA would be 2nd and Cascadia wouldn't be involved for reasons of retrospect :lol:), but it would be very interesting to see how the first three contests would play out under current circumstances ^_^

I don't get people's logic whatsoever. You hate revotes but are all for the Best Of? The Best Of is based on the same principle. Say a song like Mine All Mine goes and wins the whole thing? People could just say, oh well it should have won in BJSC7.

 

None of these arguments are making sense to me TBH.

I don't get people's logic whatsoever. You hate revotes but are all for the Best Of? The Best Of is based on the same principle. Say a song like Mine All Mine goes and wins the whole thing? People could just say, oh well it should have won in BJSC7.

 

None of these arguments are making sense to me TBH.

 

To be honest I've never been all for the Best Of either.

 

I think it would have been a much better idea to wait until we had 25 or so contests over with so we could have enough winners for an all-winners contest.

 

And Tyron, I'm not implying that it would "tinker" with earlier results in the way that you put it, but it would certainly imply that some of the winners "shouldn't" have won.

 

Alot of countries from the original contests have absolutely no interest any more, David and Rich have already spoken against the idea, and I can't see many of the newer countries being bothered, which surely would be the point of these rematches?

 

If only 10 or so people were to take part surely then it would prove even less as there would be less countries voting than there were originally.

The best of is completely different to just having the same contests over again. The best of will incorporate several songs from ten contests, rather than having the same 24/25 that we had in BJSC I. The best of means we find out the voters' favourite songs from the ten contests... what does re-running individual contests show? Not a lot imo...

I don't get people's logic whatsoever. You hate revotes but are all for the Best Of? The Best Of is based on the same principle. Say a song like Mine All Mine goes and wins the whole thing? People could just say, oh well it should have won in BJSC7.

 

None of these arguments are making sense to me TBH.

 

even if Mine All Mine were to win, that wouldn't prove that it was a better song than I Kissed A Girl, IKAG was definitely a deserving winner because it was the right song at the right time...if it finishes lower in this, it's because people are voting differently because IKAG has been shoved down our throats every day since BSJC7 whereas Mine All Mine, Just Dance and Can't Let Go are still unknown songs in the UK...

 

I don't know about everyone else but I'll be voting entirely based on the song strength in the Best Of, so if I end up voting for mostly winners, so be it! I would hate to see all of our winners trail in right at the bottom of the leaderboard just because they might be seen as cheap now...but if that were to happen, that wouldn't prove that these songs were unjust winners would it!?!

Lauren Rose for BJSC I! :cry: But yes, LOL at the sea of Macedonian songs in the early contests :lol: I'd go with the Best of BJSC voting system - vote for what wasn't cheap at the time :o

 

I think it would be an interesting idea personally, maybe not for all of the contests (BJSC V is essentially a 'modern' contest, and I doubt much would be changed...except MIA would be 2nd and Cascadia wouldn't be involved for reasons of retrospect :lol:), but it would be very interesting to see how the first three contests would play out under current circumstances ^_^

 

we'd have to have a great memory of release dates to remember what was and wasn't cheap at the time of these contests :lol:

 

BJSCV was quite large - 27 countries, so I agree that it wouldn't need replaying...

 

if we really must replay these contests but with retrospective changes (e.g. taking out BWO), please let me swap the live Believe Again video for the proper one :rofl: at the time, I didn't realise that we were allowed to enter songs on picture videos, I thought we had to enter proper music videos or live performances, and at the time, there wasn't a proper music video for Believe Again!

Why must we have these re-run contests anyway? So far I've only seen two people in favour of them...

maybe we should have a vote in a separate thread before anything goes ahead, just to guage the level of interest, a lot of people haven't viewed any opinion at all, so may well be up for doing it :unsure:

that sounds like a good idea.

 

keep all the discussion about it away from TBO odds. as the two really are unrelated.

Eurgh @ the idea of re-voting. Why change something that's already happened?

 

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What I think will probably get through..

 

 

 

BJSC I

 

02: Faztickle - Nelly Furtado - Maneater

03: Kopečka - Jordin Sparks - Tattoo

08: Ashton* - Sugababes - Push the Button

12: Simondly - Spice Girls - Say You'll Be There

 

BJSC II

 

02: Tyronosaurusland - Regina Spektor - Fidelity

05: Cascadia - Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Murder On The Dancefloor

08: United States of Russiatron* - Pink - Just Like A Pill

13: Phlumptopia - September - Satellites

 

BJSC III

 

03: Rivandia - Duffy - Mercy (Live)

04: Angelicland - Robyn - Keep This Fire Burning

07: Mdiče - The Veronicas - Hook Me Up

19: Kopečka - Jordin Sparks - Freeze

 

BJSC IV

 

02: Utopia - Pipettes - Pull Shapes

03: Kopečka - Stefy - Chelsea

04: Frahliso - Serebro - What's Your Problem?

07: Mdiče - Wynter Gordon - Surveillance

 

BJSC V

 

03: FSR Farahtyn - Girls Aloud - Je Ne Parle Pas Francais

04=: Ashton - Sugababes - Hole In The Head (Live)

04=: Kylienips - Kosheen - Catch

09: United States of Russiatron* - M.I.A - Paper Planes

 

 

BJSC VI

 

02: Ashton - Lily Allen - I Don't Know

05: FSR Rontvia - Untouched - Smack Me

07: Bhangra - Fragma - Toca's Miracle

11=: ELEDAN - Adele - Hometown Glory

 

BJSC VII

 

02: M.K.L. - Lady GaGa - Just Dance

03: FSR Rontvia - Maria Haukaas Storeng; Mira Craig - Mine All Mine

06: United States of Russiatron* - Keri Hilson - Energy

08: United States of Jack - Solange - Sandcastle Disco

 

BJSC VIII

 

02: United States of Jack - Little Jackie – The World Should Revolve Around Me

03: Angelicland - Ladyhawke – Paris Is Burning

06: United States of Russiatron - Kate Ryan – Elle Elle L’a

08: Faztickle - Alphabeat – Boyfriend

 

BJSC IX

 

02: Simondly - Pink - So What

03: NONSUCH - Cyndi Lauper - Into The Nightlife

04: FSR Rontvia - Sanna Nielsen - Nobody Without You

07: Kopečka - Ashlee Simpson - Little Miss Obsessive

 

25: B.a.N.G. - Bjork – Joga we live in hope :wub:

 

BJSC X

 

02: Torchwood - Lady GaGa - Paparazzi

03: Allecian - The Saturdays - Up

05: Utopia - PNAU feat Ladyhawke - Embrace

08: Kopečka - Camille - Money Note

 

06: B.a.N.G. - The Knife - Heartbeats Although i really do hope this gets through :wub:

 

 

 

:D Tbh, I am hoping some of these don't get through as there are FAR better songs!

Eurgh @ the idea of re-voting. Why change something that's already happened?

 

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It wouldn't be changing it, it would be to see how the contests would fare in today's BJSC environment ;)

It wouldn't be changing it, it would be to see how the contests would fare in today's BJSC environment ;)

 

but we were all so naive back then :lol: we wouldn't pick some of those entries now...I'm willing to bet Faztickle wouldn't pick Maneater again :heehee: it was a stroke of luck that I picked Believe Again (even though it flopped hugely), I almost picked something very cheap and awful, Headlines by Spice Girls, luckily Simon had already picked Say You'll Be There as his entry...imagine how awful that would have looked on FSR Rontvia's entries history :rofl: at least Believe Again is half respectable, even if nobody liked it!

 

I'm not sure that I would ever pick Glorious by Andreas Johnson in the current era BJSC, just because Rontvia is more about supporting unknown music now rather than reminding people of old hits...

i don't know if i would pick Push The Button again.

 

I probs would have picked an album track or b-side.

It wouldn't be changing it, it would be to see how the contests would fare in today's BJSC environment ;)

 

But we all talk about that anyway. It's a good thing to speculate on, without having to conduct a scientific experiment to prove anything.

I don't regret about any song i've entered :D Even this "terrible" first entry of mine in BJSCIV :kink:

I don't regret sending anything, I just wouldn't necessarily send some of those songs now

 

I don't regret Headhunted because it caused the most controversy a song ever has done in the BJSC! and I don't regret Thermostatic because it was something a bit different from FSR Rontvia, even though only Kingdom of Shadow and Utopia particularly appreciated it :heehee:

but we were all so naive back then :lol: we wouldn't pick some of those entries now...I'm willing to bet Faztickle wouldn't pick Maneater again :heehee: it was a stroke of luck that I picked Believe Again (even though it flopped hugely), I almost picked something very cheap and awful, Headlines by Spice Girls, luckily Simon had already picked Say You'll Be There as his entry...imagine how awful that would have looked on FSR Rontvia's entries history :rofl: at least Believe Again is half respectable, even if nobody liked it!

 

I'm not sure that I would ever pick Glorious by Andreas Johnson in the current era BJSC, just because Rontvia is more about supporting unknown music now rather than reminding people of old hits...

Hmmm, I was going to pick Battle or What's Your Problem for BJSC I before I picked up on Jordin :o I probably wouldn't send Vanessa Williams for the same reason as yours now...and I wouldn't have sent Rachel Stevens to BJSC VII :heehee: I should've sent Jennifer then! :(

Hmmm, I was going to pick Battle or What's Your Problem for BJSC I before I picked up on Jordin :o I probably wouldn't send Vanessa Williams for the same reason as yours now...and I wouldn't have sent Rachel Stevens to BJSC VII :heehee: I should've sent Jennifer then! :(

 

I found Rachel to be a particularly odd choice, even though I gave it points and it finished top ten, it just stuck out as the sort of thing Kopecka are usually against :lol:

 

I bet you're glad you picked Tattoo and not Battle for BJSCI :P

I found Rachel to be a particularly odd choice, even though I gave it points and it finished top ten, it just stuck out as the sort of thing Kopecka are usually against :lol:

 

I bet you're glad you picked Tattoo and not Battle for BJSCI :P

I'm damn glad I didn't choose Battle for BJSC I! :heehee: And Rachel came as a result of it being the stand-out song in a national final filled with ridiculously cheap or below par songs :( Again, I should've sent Jennifer! :heehee: