Cos no one knew it was lining Cowell's pockets. Yes there is gonna be a lot of people that brought it because they love that version, but I'm sure there was a fair amount of people who brought it to spite Simon. No one knows eachothers buying habbits. And The Sun did jump on the bandwagon when it got afloat and I'm sure they've helped a fair amount of sales also. It seems like all good intentions always end up tainted by something

It's got nothing to do with The Scum! It was a Facebook group originally set up the campaign and The Scum didn't jump on the bandwagon until it had nearly 100,000 members!

 

Let's have a look at the description of the group and aims of the campaign!

No where, I repeat, NO WHERE does it say ANYTHING about not lining Cowell's pockets!

 

:manson:

 

I am against the commercialisation of Jeff Buckley as much as I am against what Simon Cowell stands for

 

Buckley has been and should always be a niche artist who should be in the collections of purists of fine music and REAL music fans, now thanks to this campaign and Cowell we are going to have Jeff Buckley in the record collections of Westlife and McFly fans and so on who do not deserve the genius of Buckley in their record collections

 

Does that make me sound a snob ? probably but it is true

"Just as well I've been on the Geraldine McQueen bandwagon & not the Jeff Buckley one."

 

I've been on neither, but I'd definitely rather the former ;)

 

So, in essence, shouldn't everyone who adores Buckley's version be in debt to Cowell? I mean, had he not used Hallelujah as the winner's single, Buckley's version would not have reached #2.

 

You know, I don't know why I'm arguing this. I actually dislike Simon Cowell, so I can't defend him anymore. It's just the logic behind this Hallelujah bandwagon that is so hypocritical. Stick to the "we just wanted another Xmas #1" - it's got a better ring to it...

 

I was just about to say that some of the hatred comes from fans of the Jeff Buckley version, wanting to keep it underground and then i read this:

 

" I am against the commercialisation of Jeff Buckley as much as I am against what Simon Cowell stands for

 

Buckley has been and should always be a niche artist who should be in the collections of purists of fine music and REAL music fans, now thanks to this campaign and Cowell we are going to have Jeff Buckley in the record collections of Westlife and McFly fans and so on who do not deserve the genius of Buckley in their record collections"

 

(sorry, i don't know how to multi-quote)

I am against the commercialisation of Jeff Buckley as much as I am against what Simon Cowell stands for

 

Buckley has been and should always be a niche artist who should be in the collections of purists of fine music and REAL music fans, now thanks to this campaign and Cowell we are going to have Jeff Buckley in the record collections of Westlife and McFly fans and so on who do not deserve the genius of Buckley in their record collections

 

Does that make me sound a snob ? probably but it is true

 

I actually agree with this. I feel like starting a bandwagon against those who initiated the original bandwagon of "Hallelujah". Buckley's version is very good, but I don't even think it's the best on that particular album. Like I said earlier, if it was to raise awareness for a talent like Jeff Buckley, then those people have Simon Cowell to thank for bringing this to the mainstream...

 

"I was just about to say that some of the hatred comes from fans of the Jeff Buckley version, wanting to keep it underground and then i read this:"

 

And you know, I understand that hatred more than anything else.

Edited December 20, 200816 yr by AAC

I am against the commercialisation of Jeff Buckley as much as I am against what Simon Cowell stands for

 

Buckley has been and should always be a niche artist who should be in the collections of purists of fine music and REAL music fans, now thanks to this campaign and Cowell we are going to have Jeff Buckley in the record collections of Westlife and McFly fans and so on who do not deserve the genius of Buckley in their record collections

 

Does that make me sound a snob ? probably but it is true

:manson:

 

Yes, definitely a music snob!

 

Does it matter if Jeff Buckley, or another underground 'niche' (Jeff Buckley, niche?! :lol:) artist reaches a wider audience?! Personally, if I'd manage to get someone who likes the likes of McFly, Westlife or Boyzone to buy an album I truly love from an artist I consider a huge talent (let's say 'Grace' by Jeff Buckley as an example!) then I'd be incredibly pleased. Pleased that I, IMO, have managed to 'improve' someones music taste!

Edited December 20, 200816 yr by RabbitFurCoat

Cos no one knew it was lining Cowell's pockets. Yes there is gonna be a lot of people that brought it because they love that version, but I'm sure there was a fair amount of people who brought it to spite Simon. No one knows eachothers buying habbits. And The Sun did jump on the bandwagon when it got afloat and I'm sure they've helped a fair amount of sales also. It seems like all good intentions always end up tainted by something

Even if people have bought it for reasons other than originally intended I don't think it really matters, every sale still helps the campaigns original aims, to get Jeff Buckley heard by more people!

Even if people have bought it for reasons other than originally intended I don't think it really matters, every sale still helps the campaigns original aims, to get Jeff Buckley heard by more people!

 

But again, this is the hypocrisy of the original campaign! If this was about showing Buckley material to the wider audience, surely you have Simon Cowell to thank for this? Without X-Factor using "Hallelujah" as the winner's song, the campaign wouldn't be a fraction of the success it is.

But again, this is the hypocrisy of the original campaign! If this was about showing Buckley material to the wider audience, surely you have Simon Cowell to thank for this? Without X-Factor using "Hallelujah" as the winner's song, the campaign wouldn't be a fraction of the success it is.

 

Would there even be a campaign?

I couldn't help but laugh when i was on the train last night coming home from work, cos i grabbed the London Lite paper and began reading through it - and it said that Simon Cowell had brought the rights to the Halleuljah song, which means not only is he making money out of Alexandra's version, but also Jeff Buckley and the other one floating around. So all those people that have brought Jeff Buckley as a two fingers at Simon - have gone and made him even richer!

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: This will probably make him more money than any other XF release then!

:manson:

 

Yes, definitely a music snob!

 

Does it matter if Jeff Buckley, or another underground 'niche' (Jeff Buckley, niche?! :lol:) artist reaches a wider audience?! Personally, if I'd manage to get someone who likes the likes of McFly, Westlife or Boyzone to buy an album I truly love from an artist I consider a huge talent (let's say 'Grace' by Jeff Buckley as an example!) then I'd be incredibly pleased. Pleased that I, IMO, have managed to 'improve' someones music taste!

 

What I meant by "niche" was non commercial / non aimed at the chart more aimed at conniseurs of decent music and purists /underground as opposed to chart music

This was posted on DS (thanks to dejavue) and is a bit tongue in cheek but makes for interesting reading:

How the X Factor influenced the Xmas top 10

 

1. Hallelujah - Alexandra Burke - This year's X-Factor winner's song

2. Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley - Driven by a campaign against the X-Factor

3. Run - Leona - The most successful X-Factor winner

4. Like a Boy - Beyonce - Performed this song on the X-Factor

5. Once upon a Christmas - Geraldine McQueen - Winner of an X-Factor parody and also driven by a campaign against the X-Factor

6. Broken Strings - J.Morrisson N. Furtado - Performed on the Girls Aloud Christmas Party between the two X-Factor shows last week

7. Knew Somebody - Kings of Leon - Leon Jackson won last year's X-Factor ( OK, I'm stretching this one )

8. Listen - Beyonce - A memorable duet of this song between Beyonce and Alexandra Burke was performed on the X-Factor final.

9. Greatest Day - Take That - Mentored the acts and performed this song on the X-Factor

10. Womanizer - Britney - Didn't mentor the acts and mimed this song on the X-Factor.

I couldn't help but laugh when i was on the train last night coming home from work, cos i grabbed the London Lite paper and began reading through it - and it said that Simon Cowell had brought the rights to the Halleuljah song, which means not only is he making money out of Alexandra's version, but also Jeff Buckley and the other one floating around. So all those people that have brought Jeff Buckley as a two fingers at Simon - have gone and made him even richer!

 

:rofl: