Will his arrest have any affect on Liverpool's best season in the premiership to date? Will it make them more likely to succeed or fail?

 

How will opposing fans treat him, bearing in mind the receptions other footballers who got into serious trouble received?

 

Should he be disciplined by the club at the very least?

 

Is he a good role model for kids?

well firstly innocent until PROVEN guilty.

 

ANd I do think inevitably it will effect the Liverpool team, and probably scupper their bast chance of the league title.

Don't think it will affect the clubs chances at all. The only people that are making a big deal out it are the press, who are the same press will be licking his arse the next plays for England. :manson:

 

So what, he potentially attacked a guy? Happens every night on the town. I don't believe he was the one who threw the glass, but i'm in doubt that he was provoked by the DJ in my mind. Most that will happen to Gerrard is a fine, and community service, but i'd expect a slap on the wrist to be honest as he's got a clean record and will be able to afford the ebst lawyers possible.

 

Opposing fans will make small time chants up, the same happened for Barton so it'll be no different to Gerrard. I've already seen some of Preston's attempts (laughable to say the least). I hope fans sing it, the last time Gerrard properly got stick he showed Everton who was boss. :lol: I don't think he'll be disciplined by the club either. They won't be happy, but i'm very sure Gerrard will have been allowed out to celebrate because he wasn't going to play on Saturday.

I will wait until he is tried and convicted or cleared before passing comment

 

It is inappropriate for anyone to comment without being aware of the full facts

 

 

I will wait until he is tried and convicted or cleared before passing comment

 

It is inappropriate for anyone to comment without being aware of the full facts

 

I totally agree.

 

But as a former legendary servant of Manchester United said on Radio 5 Live this afternoon:

 

If a (cover) club DJ (for the regular DJ) who was a Liverpool supporter refused to play a record that the Manchester United captain wanted playing at a regular Manchester United watering hole full of associates of the club and instead played You'll Never Walk Alone, then when asked he was playing that track made some derogatory remark about the 1958 Munich Air Disaster .... then he would have suffered a damn sight more than one lost tooth and a few cuts and grazes.....

 

I totally agree.

 

But as a former legendary servant of Manchester United said on Radio 5 Live this afternoon:

 

If a (cover) club DJ (for the regular DJ) who was a Liverpool supporter refused to play a record that the Manchester United captain wanted playing at a regular Manchester United watering hole full of associates of the club and instead played You'll Never Walk Alone, then when asked he was playing that track made some derogatory remark about the 1958 Munich Air Disaster .... then he would have suffered a damn sight more than one lost tooth and a few cuts and grazes.....

 

Exactly. The news that the DJ is a Man Utd supporter comes of no suprise tbh. Is wrong to make judgements on Man Utd fans, but Gerrard certainly isn't the type to go looking for trouble. If someone's said something about LFC (especially a Man Utd fan) to Gerrard and his friends, then they've retaliated it will make him even more a hero with the Liverpool fans. :lol:

I do think it's probably nothing, it'll have been overblown to the max. However I couldn't help laugh at receiving the following text:

 

Carlsberg don't do stereotypes... but Steven Gerrard does. :lol:

I do think it's probably nothing, it'll have been overblown to the max. However I couldn't help laugh at receiving the following text:

 

Carlsberg don't do stereotypes... but Steven Gerrard does. :lol:

 

:lol:

 

Indeed two nights ago on BBC3 they had their annual most annoying people of the year list:

 

At #10 was Joey Barton, and as the talking head on the show: "You'll never ever see Steven Gerrard get into these sort of trouble do you...."

I agree, he's innocent until proven guilty. I just find this all really strange and think it's just really out of character for him really :unsure:

he's scouse.. enough said, really

It's a little early to sanctify Steven Gerrard

 

by Barbara Ellen

 

Interesting to behold the canonisation of Liverpool and England player Steven Gerrard, as he awaits trial for ABH and affray, after an alleged incident in a Merseyside bar, involving several others, which left a part-time DJ with a tooth missing.

 

Gerrard faces a maximum five year sentence if convicted, but there is support for his innocence and good character everywhere. Liverpool manager Rafa Benítez is standing by him. England players David Beckham, Wayne Rooney and Rio Ferdinand are all said to have sent messages of support. The Football Association has no plans to bar Gerrard from the England squad.

 

Then there are the headlines ("You'll never walk alone!"), with quotes ranging from "He's so nice" to "He's really nice". OK, we get it - Gerrard is nice. Shortly before the incident, he was organising charity work with Kenny Dalglish. One wonders what Gerrard was doing at a bar in the first place - couldn't he have turned water into wine at home? And so we come to the "sick parrot" hanging upside down in the aviary of national reaction. On what actual grounds has Gerrard been tried by the media and the public and granted what amounts of a full, unofficial pardon?

 

I'd be as amazed and disappointed as anyone if it turns out that Gerrard is guilty. I am also aware that this Mexican wave of sympathy could amount to nothing more complicated than not wanting to lose a decent England player mere months before World Cup qualifiers. Still, you've got to admit, this impromptu anointing of Saint Steven of Huyton, straight after an alleged bar ruck, represents a pendulum swing in public perception of the national game.

 

It wasn't so long ago that Premier League footballers couldn't stub their toes on a nightclub bar stool without being condemned as multimillionaire thugs, social pariahs, touch papers of moral decline etc. For a time, our press could have amalgamated into the "Daily Roast", so numerous seemed the stories of love and respect movingly expressed between young ladies and their footballer lovers, as well as the other footballers who mysteriously appeared halfway through, presumably eager to "express their love and respect" too.

 

Only a few years ago, this was the public face of off-duty Premier League football: drunken, violent, sexually predatory pond-life, good only for vomiting into ashtrays and keeping Gucci in business, a lot of which was class-biased codswallop. However, the avalanche of bad press never managed to wound British football mortally. And that's because, while other sports (cricket, tennis, rugby) are important, football is the UK's masculine heartbeat, with footballers among the most vital role models we possess. That's how powerful football remains, and this fact should be celebrated, but surely only up to a point?

 

What is it with footballers that we have to keep up this simplistic lurching between :They can do no right" and "They can do no wrong", when the truth so often lies somewhere between? No one could deny that Paul Gascoigne was a football superstar, with a love of Mars Bars and pranks. But he also became a drunken wife-beater, whose 12-year-old son will be shown in tomorrow's Cutting Edge saying he wishes his dad would "go away" and doesn't want to "waste tears on him" . Who saw that coming with lovely, cheeky Gazza, the original cartoon fat lad, in the early 90s?

 

As much as Gerrard is a totally different entity, until we have the full facts about what happened in that Merseyside bar, it is ludicrous how automatically he has been exonerated, how unquestioningly he has been assured he will "never walk alone" by an over-sentimental public. The last time I looked, "nice" and "good at scoring goals" had yet to rank as synonyms for "not guilty". Just as it was unfair when footballers were bombarded with criticism when they were just young men getting drunk and having a sex life, it must be viewed as equally suspicious when the pendulum swings too far the other way.

 

Source: The Observer

 

Do you agree or disagree with her take on the story?

Edited January 4, 200916 yr by brian91

Well first off Gazza IS an alcoholic - him and pretty much EVERY other top league footballer are compeltely different in that respect.

 

Secondly, the alledged victim is a Man Utd supporter. I hate to stereotype, but Gerrard definitely isn't the sort of person to go looking for trouble. If you ask me he was/was not provoked by the DJ. Can't see the fuss over a broken tooth either personally. If he was in a coma then yes, but lost tooth?!