January 13, 200916 yr who says?.... scource?... as far as im concerned it came to our language when the large influx of pakinstanis came in the 60's - 70's. Yeah, and it was used by BRITISH racists, the NF, etc, and people like your blessed fukkin' Enoch Powell... Asians themselves certainly NEVER referred to themselves as such... Considering about two thirds of them were bloody INDIAN or BANGLADESHI, why the fukk would they refer to themselves as being "P@ki"....? Pillock...... :rolleyes: Where the fukk is YOUR source that says Asians who settled here were happily referring to themselves as being "p@kis". If Craig happily wants to refer to himself as a "yid", then that's his look-out, I happen to know of plenty of Jews who would NEVER want that word used in reference to them, even as a joke..... NO, the term "P@ki" is a white, British, racist remark in origin, as bad as "coon" or "n!gger", end of.....
January 13, 200916 yr Yeah, and it was used by BRITISH racists, the NF, etc, and people like your blessed fukkin' Enoch Powell... Asians themselves certainly NEVER referred to themselves as such... Considering about two thirds of them were bloody INDIAN or BANGLADESHI, why the fukk would they refer to themselves as being "P@ki"....? Pillock...... :rolleyes: Where the fukk is YOUR source that says Asians who settled here were happily referring to themselves as being "p@kis". If Craig happily wants to refer to himself as a "yid", then that's his look-out, I happen to know of plenty of Jews who would NEVER want that word used in reference to them, even as a joke..... NO, the term "P@ki" is a white, British, racist remark in origin, as bad as "coon" or "n!gger", end of..... i wont even type those two words you have.... racist! :P oh and bangladesh was EAST PAKISTAN until about 1970!
January 13, 200916 yr oh and bangladesh was EAST PAKISTAN until about 1970! Er, SO....? They fought a war for independence, you prat..... Which kind of implies that they dont even want to be called "Pakistani", never mind "p@ki"..... :rolleyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh Typical of white, british, imperialist ignorance though.... To assume that everyone of a different colour of skin is happy to be referred to in the same, generic way...... :rolleyes: In case you hadn't noticed, India and Pakistan are still technically AT WAR with each other.... Yeah, I'm REAL sure that Indians would just LOVE to be referred to as "p@kis"... Fool..... Try educating yourself sometime and actually TALK to people of Asian, Hindu, Muslim, Bhuddist extraction.... :rolleyes:
January 13, 200916 yr Author Unfortunately any dark skinned person (European/African/South American) have referred to as p... Even Asians get referred to as n....
January 13, 200916 yr Unfortunately any dark skinned person (European/African/South American) have referred to as p... Even Asians get referred to as n.... Yeah, and well all know what happens when racist coppers get "confused" dont we....? Innocent Brazilians get confused with Asian terror suspects..... Amazing that the Police seemed to have no troubles at all managing to tell white Irish Catholics from white Irish Protestants though when they fitted up the Guildford 4, Birmingham 6 and The Maguires though, innit.....? :lol:
January 13, 200916 yr i wont even type those two words you have.... racist! :P Not at all... It's called being "deliberately confrontational to make a point".... If you find words like c**n, w** and n***** unacceptable, then p*** is also in the same ballpark as a word which has a purely RACIST origin, and is therefor unnacceptable, especially being uttered by a possible future Head of State no matter what the context, and I dont find it acceptable for the armed forces of ANY country to use demeaning, racist language to dehumanise and denigrate an entire race of people; isn't this the whole reason WHY the world is utterly fukked-up now.....? Isn't it why the Holocaust happened...? Why the genocide in Rwanda and ethnic cleansing in the Former Yugoslavia happened.... It starts with words and rhetoric, from people LIKE politicians and Heads of State..... Only later once the dehumanising has been done, does it become concentration camps, colonization, mass slaughter and genocide.....
January 13, 200916 yr Er, SO....? They fought a war for independence, you prat..... Which kind of implies that they dont even want to be called "Pakistani", never mind "p@ki"..... :rolleyes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh Typical of white, british, imperialist ignorance though.... To assume that everyone of a different colour of skin is happy to be referred to in the same, generic way...... :rolleyes: In case you hadn't noticed, India and Pakistan are still technically AT WAR with each other.... Yeah, I'm REAL sure that Indians would just LOVE to be referred to as "p@kis"... Fool..... Try educating yourself sometime and actually TALK to people of Asian, Hindu, Muslim, Bhuddist extraction.... :rolleyes: er so ? when many bangladeshis came here they were actually pakistanis! many were born as pakistanis! never mind, i just love baiting you though :lol:
January 13, 200916 yr er so ? when many bangladeshis came here they were actually pakistanis! many were born as pakistanis! never mind, i just love baiting you though :lol: Yeah, yeah, whatever..... :P I've missed you too man.... Besides, yes, they may have been born Pakistani, but this does not mean to say they wanted to be referred to as Pakistani, otherwise, why would their country want to seceed from the "motherland" and struggle for independance...? A LOT of blood flowed in the Bangladeshi struggle for independence, and Bangladesh has emerged as a much more moderate Islamic state than Pakistan, so there were clearly reasons for the struggle to take place.... It's like the whole British/Irish debate innit, or British/Welsh, British/English, British/Scottish debate.... But particularly British/Irish given the history, the IRA, the Troubles, the 1916 Uprising, the Partition and so on.... If you called a person in the Catholic Falls Road "British" you'd get you head kicked in, if you called a Protestant on the Shankhill Road Irish, you'd get another kicking, the divide is VERY real even with the IRA ceasefire..... -_- Not saying it's right, but that's the reality mate.... Tell you what though, just in the interests of playing Devils Advocate here, I think the absolutely PERFECT riposte to what Harry said to the Asian chap would be this...... Harry - And there's our little P@ki friend.... Asian Lad (laughs) - Yeah, right mate.... And who's your Daddy, you gingerbollocked c/unt......? :lol: :lol: :lol: Just a bit o' BANTER eh......?
January 13, 200916 yr Tell you what though, just in the interests of playing Devils Advocate here, I think the absolutely PERFECT riposte to what Harry said to the Asian chap would be this...... Harry - And there's our little P@ki friend.... Asian Lad (laughs) - Yeah, right mate.... And who's your Daddy, you gingerbollocked c/unt......? :lol: :lol: :lol: Just a bit o' BANTER eh......? :lol: if only!
January 13, 200916 yr :lol: if only! Now if the lad HAD said something like that to the little Royal sh!t, then I wouldn't be quite so angry about it... And I reckon if he HAD just been Harry Windsor, ordinary squaddie, then that response, or some similar remark, WOULD have happened (mind you, it wouldn't have made the front page of the Screws really would it...? :lol: ).... Like I said though, he's a bloody Royal, the kid feels that he probably CANT really say anything like that against him, he cant really give that fukkin' toff git as good as he got, or it's "off to the tower" innit.....? :rolleyes: I HATE the Class system..... -_-
January 13, 200916 yr Like "father" like son Charles refers to an indian polo friend as Sooty, clearly a reference to the colour of his skin, yet Sooty is not offended thus the media are leaving the story alone, but this "**k*" soldier wasn't offended either
January 13, 200916 yr Like "father" like son Charles refers to an indian polo friend as Sooty, Well, I kinda think Harry learned it more from "Grandad" Phil tbh..... :lol: Hmmm, "Sooty" eh....? Sounds a bit like that imaginary black friend of Jim Davidson's.... You know, Chalky....? Yeah, the black guy called "Chalky".... Hilarious..... And I still maintain that it is meaningless that the friend of Harry's does not appear to be offended, there's really not much one Asian soldier can say in a white dominated institution such as the Army.... And anyway, it's more than just about one individual when you're in someone else's country and you use other disrespectful terms such as "raghead".... But you obviously disagree.. You feel that it is more important to respect the sensibililties of one middle class family (ie, the McCanns) than the sensibilities of an entire race.... -_- If you ask me, it's disrespecting others that has led to the situation we are now in mate.... 9/11, July 7th, Glasgow Airport..... Reactions to the utter disrespect we in the West have shown to the Arab/Muslim world, particularly the Palestinians who we just love to sh!t upon.....
January 13, 200916 yr They may not appear to be offended, but it's still considered racist. The royal family are a bunch of knobs.
January 13, 200916 yr DIfferent set of circumstances though in terms of that Tory guy He is someone that was on the shortlist to be an MP at the next election, the next Madeleine McCann would possibly have been in his constituency and he would have to be heavily involved in the hunt for missing kids, so the fact he was prepared to dress up as Maddy complete with fake blood made him totally unfit for public office for the very reasons I gave above, he would be an elected official by the people Harry is not elected by anyone I am not a Harry fanboy, I am a republican and would happily rid the country of all these parasites upon the death of the current Queen, royals are an outdated concept to me
January 13, 200916 yr Its the MILITARY mate, the military is known for its "industrial language" and lack of political correctness, And 20 years ago you could have said the same of the Metropolitan Police. That didn't make racist remarks by police officers respectable then and it doesn't make racist remarks by this waste of space acceptable now. Edited January 13, 200916 yr by Suedehead2
January 13, 200916 yr Harry was an utter plonker for this. The fact is, the term "**k*" IS widely viewed as an offensive word, regardless of your own personal stance or experience with it. Harry is in a massively high-profile position where his every action and word is pretty much monitored and judged upon, and I fail to see how anyone over the age of 12 could not have realised the effect that this could have had. And to FILM himself doing it.... Especially after it wouldn't have come long after the Nazi costume debacle. But at the end of the day, it happened 3 years ago, I fail to see the point in dredging this up now, particular when the subject himself has seemed quite reluctant to comment on it.
January 14, 200916 yr Harry is not elected by anyone I am not a Harry fanboy, I am a republican and would happily rid the country of all these parasites upon the death of the current Queen, royals are an outdated concept to me Surely that's the problem, we CANT elect the Royals, if there's one individual who is a racist or a sexist and holds views that the majority of the country would find unnacceptable, we cant impeach them or get rid of them.... Unless, come the revolution, they're all rounded up, put against a wall and shot of course..... :lol: I believe that it is time we ended this 'Privelege' System forever.... It's obvious to me that these people abuse their priveleged positions within society....
January 14, 200916 yr Harry was an utter plonker for this. The fact is, the term "**k*" IS widely viewed as an offensive word, regardless of your own personal stance or experience with it. Harry is in a massively high-profile position where his every action and word is pretty much monitored and judged upon, and I fail to see how anyone over the age of 12 could not have realised the effect that this could have had. And to FILM himself doing it.... Especially after it wouldn't have come long after the Nazi costume debacle. But at the end of the day, it happened 3 years ago, I fail to see the point in dredging this up now, particular when the subject himself has seemed quite reluctant to comment on it. I couldn't personally care less if it was three years, three days or three hours ago, it's unnacceptable at any time.... These two individuals in question are NOT in a position where they are equals, one is a working class Asian lad trying to make ends meet, the other is the priveleged Royal who's NEVER had to struggle, everything was handed to him on a silver platter, let's not pretend that this is a relationship of equals.... The fact as well, that the lad was filmed WHILE SLEEPING, suggests a surreptitiousness to the proceedings, again, it is not based upon equality, the lad is sleeping therefore he cannot object to the comment, or say, "fukk off Ginger Nut, who's your daddy...?" in jest back at him.... It's pretty obvious to me why the lad is "reluctant" to comment, he's probably scared to say anything negative about the bloody Royals, or indeed the army, given his position because it might come back on him and affect his future career within the institution... The Official Oxford Dictionary definition of the word "p@ki" is simple and unambiguous - A term of racial abuse, originated in the 1970s... Well, this is the end of the argument for me, it IS a term of abuse.... And so is "Raghead".... These are terms designed to abuse, belittle, dehumanise and to make people be less than human... Easier to kill that way aren't they, if they are made to be less than human.... You're not killing people, you're not dropping cluster bombs on people, you're not illegally occupying a peoples' territory, you're killing/bombing/occupying a bunch of p@kis and ragheads..... <_< As for the Charles "Sooty" comment, well, again, we still have a situation where there is an unequal relationship... If the bloke makes an issue of it, he probably wont be invited to be a part of the "gang" as it were, he probably wont get invited to play polo with Charles, he's pretty much the only coloured face in the place as well, so again, he's not exactly in the best position, so better probably to just laugh it off and just take it... Is it not also a bit belittling as well, naming him after a kids' TV character....? I suppose it all depends on if the guy gives as good as he gets and calls the others "paleface"... But I rather doubt he does..... Probably has a bit more dignity than to allow himself to be drawn into that level of crassness..... "Sooty" doesn't quite have the same objectionable quality as p@ki or raghead though.... I never saw grafitti on my mate's house that said "Sooties Out....", so i regard the two situations as being quite different....
January 14, 200916 yr Its pathetic, anything is racist nowadays. What the fukk do you mean "nowadays", the word "p@ki" has its origins in the 1970s and with racist organisations such as the National Front... You know absolutely NOTHING about what happened in this country in the 1970s and 80s and you clearly never read MY post concerning my asian schoolfriends having to suffer abuse at the hands of skinheaded scumbags who called them "p@ki"... Nowadays, my arse.... The terms "p@ki" has been a term of abuse for over 30 years....
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