for two consecutive weeks it has sold 60k+

 

hardly an epic fail. it looks like it'll top 200k and edge towards 250k.

 

Therefore owning Walk This Way at the main goal: Raising money for comic relief.

 

Something it is doing very well right about now.

 

... but again, no one remembers record sales, its a statistic that means nothing in pop music history unless its a huge amount. more people remember that ultravox's classic 'vienna' was kept off the top spot by a one hit wonder novelty record then by the vast amout of units it shifted. if the sats had got to number one with half the records sales, they then would be carved into pop music history as having their first 1. they failed.

 

 

Exactly Silver Rocket. Fantastic sales so far.

 

And-

Erm, well I think seeing each single peak higher than the last (8,5,4,2 I think please correct if wrong) shows the public are actually liking them.

 

Work beginning of the end? Yes it is.

 

Beginning of the end of the Chasing Lights era. Roll on album 2 ;)

 

hold on a mo... you cant go using sales one minute saying or agreeing that they are important, then use chart positions the next!

 

this tawdry outfit is being seen through by the public tired of bog standard manufactured starlets. yes, roll on album 2, with the promise of something more creative that they themselves are claiming to be writing material for. this will sort out for once and for all whether or not they ARE anything like as talented and popular as the blind fans chose to believe...

 

and tbh, i dont really care if they show they have talent, but atm im still waiting for the facts to live upto the promised hype.

 

hold on a mo... you cant go using sales one minute saying or agreeing that they are important, then use chart positions the next!

Isn't that exactly what you've been doing? :mellow: First it's "if they don't make the 400k being splashed on them they WILL be gone by Christmas" and now it's "hahaha they didn't make #1, who cares if it sold more than the Sugaabes vs GA?". :blink:

I concur with Aaron :)

All alight for Hyppocrite Central :o Rob's just being hateful for the sake of it, quite clearly. The song is selling exceptionally well, that's all that matters. I expect that a good 98% of the public are not going to think "#2! what a flop!", even if they did waste their time inspecting chart positions.

That's what I've been trying to say ^ (well once, a couple of pages back :heehee: ). #2 is only one away from #1, so it's not like it's MASSIVELY FLOPPED. Heck, anything that goes Top 3 is pretty big.

Isn't that exactly what you've been doing? :mellow: First it's "if they don't make the 400k being splashed on them they WILL be gone by Christmas" and now it's "hahaha they didn't make #1, who cares if it sold more than the Sugaabes vs GA?". :blink:

 

well not really as its different context. their management NEED to make money or they will be dropped, thats a fact, so to the MANAGEMENT record sales DO matter. but to pop history, and dont forget i do pop music quizes, its the chart position that matters, NOT record sales...

 

That's what I've been trying to say ^ (well once, a couple of pages back :heehee: ). #2 is only one away from #1, so it's not like it's MASSIVELY FLOPPED. Heck, anything that goes Top 3 is pretty big.

 

its about perspective, after having 400k spent on them, getting them the lucrative comic relief deal, having them in their underwear <_< in the video that was more a self promotional one rather then a true comic relief vid.... then id say not reaching the top WAS a massive failure, compounded by the fact that the 'other' release HAS made it to the top with much less publicity.

 

on the back of that, and the fact that THE comic relief single for 09 will be remembered as 'islands in the stream', id suggest that it IS a huge failure.

then id say not reaching the top WAS a massive failure, compounded by the fact that the 'other' release HAS made it to the top with much less publicity.

 

on the back of that, and the fact that THE comic relief single for 09 will be remembered as 'islands in the stream', id suggest that it IS a huge failure.

Are you out to get a record? Because you just contradicted yourself AGAIN. Islands In The Stream had less publicity? No, it didn't, which is precisely why it will be remembered as the CR single of 09. It was ALL over the gossip rags, the tabloids, BBC promotion, everything was about IITS - the Sats really didn't get any of that. The chances are too that they'll sell more in the end; I don't see IITS lasting long on the charts.

 

Either way this boils down to your view that chart position is more important than sales. Which it isn't, but I guess the lady's not for changing.

well not really as its different context. their management NEED to make money or they will be dropped, thats a fact, so to the MANAGEMENT record sales DO matter. but to pop history, and dont forget i do pop music quizes, its the chart position that matters, NOT record sales...

its about perspective, after having 400k spent on them, getting them the lucrative comic relief deal, having them in their underwear <_< in the video that was more a self promotional one rather then a true comic relief vid.... then id say not reaching the top WAS a massive failure, compounded by the fact that the 'other' release HAS made it to the top with much less publicity.

 

on the back of that, and the fact that THE comic relief single for 09 will be remembered as 'islands in the stream', id suggest that it IS a huge failure.

Well I'm sure they'll be fine, the album has managed to do better than most of us would have expected eventually and they've had some decent sized hits, they're not doing huge venues on their tour so it's likely they will only gain from it. (I might even go, since they're doing a Reading venue, and I'm not that fussed over them)

 

As you say, this single was as much a promotional tool as it was for charity but what's new there? I'm sure most people do this records to make themselves look good. Keeping them out there will be necessary to ensure the next album doesn't bomb.

 

As for THE Comic Relief song of 2009 being "Islands In The Stream". YES, the novelty one is always the one people remember. "500 Miles" is remembered more than "Walk This Way" and "Amarillo" is one of the biggest songs of the decade so even the, slightly more remembered, McFly song was a 'huge failure' in that case.

Regardless of succeed or fail, the idea that the 'comic' single was the lesser promoted one is utterly untrue. Less radio play, granted, but outside of that I have seen billboards, adverts, video exclusives, animated advertising, in terms of print and advert media, it's been all over the shop!

The whole point of a charity single is to sell as much as possible. Im sure the people at Comic Relief appreciate the big sales over the no.1 anyday.

This year The Saturdays have contributed to the biggest fundraising CR ever and have the biggest selling CR single for 4 years (so far).

 

Give them a f***ing break and go away, theres only so much $h!t people can read before it starts getting boring. No-one here thinks the track has done badly and hardly anyone in the general public knows who was number 1 last week - trust me, only a small percentage of people follow the charts weekly and most of them reside on here.

 

The Saturdays, 120k+ = Comic Relief success

If (and i guess its a when) Just Can't Get Enough hits 200,000 - would The Saturdays be the first girlband since B*Witched to have 3 out of their first 4 singles to go silver?

its about perspective, after having 400k spent on them, getting them the lucrative comic relief deal, having them in their underwear <_< in the video that was more a self promotional one rather then a true comic relief vid.... then id say not reaching the top WAS a massive failure, compounded by the fact that the 'other' release HAS made it to the top with much less publicity.

 

on the back of that, and the fact that THE comic relief single for 09 will be remembered as 'islands in the stream', id suggest that it IS a huge failure.

I don't see the problem though? They've still made a bit of money from the track, it's helped raise awareness about them as an act, and they still managed to get to #2 with a shit song.

 

The Comic Relief single of '09 is only going to be remembered as Islands In The Stream by the 'older audience'. My mum likes the track because she likes Tom Jones. She's more likely to go out to HMV and purchase it. If I asked my mum who the Saturdays where she wouldn't have a clue. Likewise, if I asked my sister to sing me a line from 'Island In The Stream' she'd probably tell me to fukk off. So I think The Saturdays have done pretty well. :lol: [- to the audience they are aimed at!..]

The whole point of a charity single is to sell as much as possible. Im sure the people at Comic Relief appreciate the big sales over the no.1 anyday.

This year The Saturdays have contributed to the biggest fundraising CR ever and have the biggest selling CR single for 4 years (so far).

 

Give them a f***ing break and go away, theres only so much $h!t people can read before it starts getting boring. No-one here thinks the track has done badly and hardly anyone in the general public knows who was number 1 last week - trust me, only a small percentage of people follow the charts weekly and most of them reside on here.

 

The Saturdays, 120k+ = Comic Relief success

For once i agree entirely with Coolnav.

 

and, i'm pretty sure WTW is very well remembered for being a bloody mess.

 

 

I still remember the 100+page bitch fest on the Official Sugababes forum about it......

Are you out to get a record? Because you just contradicted yourself AGAIN. Islands In The Stream had less publicity? No, it didn't, which is precisely why it will be remembered as the CR single of 09. It was ALL over the gossip rags, the tabloids, BBC promotion, everything was about IITS - the Sats really didn't get any of that. The chances are too that they'll sell more in the end; I don't see IITS lasting long on the charts.

 

Either way this boils down to your view that chart position is more important than sales. Which it isn't, but I guess the lady's not for changing.

 

 

Regardless of succeed or fail, the idea that the 'comic' single was the lesser promoted one is utterly untrue. Less radio play, granted, but outside of that I have seen billboards, adverts, video exclusives, animated advertising, in terms of print and advert media, it's been all over the shop!

 

in response to both of the above...

 

ive not seen /heard half as much promo for islands in the stream as i have the saturdays, i even thought it had been dropped.

 

The whole point of a charity single is to sell as much as possible. Im sure the people at Comic Relief appreciate the big sales over the no.1 anyday.

This year The Saturdays have contributed to the biggest fundraising CR ever and have the biggest selling CR single for 4 years (so far).

 

Give them a f***ing break and go away, theres only so much $h!t people can read before it starts getting boring. No-one here thinks the track has done badly and hardly anyone in the general public knows who was number 1 last week - trust me, only a small percentage of people follow the charts weekly and most of them reside on here.

 

The Saturdays, 120k+ = Comic Relief success

 

no one?...:lol: try people who arnt blind fans, deluded ones like yourself who believe they are summut special... because they are a long way from convincing real music fans of anything else. oh and YOU go away, if you are incapeable of discussing a topic in an adult manner without the usual tantrum <_<

 

 

I don't see the problem though? They've still made a bit of money from the track, it's helped raise awareness about them as an act, and they still managed to get to #2 with a shit song.

 

The Comic Relief single of '09 is only going to be remembered as Islands In The Stream by the 'older audience'. My mum likes the track because she likes Tom Jones. She's more likely to go out to HMV and purchase it. If I asked my mum who the Saturdays where she wouldn't have a clue. Likewise, if I asked my sister to sing me a line from 'Island In The Stream' she'd probably tell me to fukk off. So I think The Saturdays have done pretty well. :lol: [- to the audience they are aimed at!..]

 

pretty well to the audience they were aimed at?... id agree, and perhaps 'islands' was supposed to attract the older audience (but not me as i actually prefer the sats, even though its crap). but if the sats are to become as big as they seem to want, they HAVE to appeal to others outside their target audience. otherwise they wont be 'big' and will not last.

 

Goodness sake! give the Saturdays a break Mushymanrob, I'm not a fan and even I think they've done great, I also don't like this new "double issue" comic relief single either, which seems to have become a regular occurrence now. As far as I'm aware, The Saturdays were asked to do the official single for comic relief, so why do we have to have two on the go? why does it have to be a battle for sales between two?

Edited March 17, 200916 yr by suggy

Goodness sake! give the Saturdays a break Mushymanrob, I'm not a fan and even I think they've done great, I also don't like this new "double issue" comic relief single either, which seems to have become a regular occurrence now. As far as I'm aware, The Saturdays were asked to do the official single for comic relief, so why do we have to have two on the go? why does it have to be a battle for sales between two?

 

give them a break?...you over estimate my powers! :lol:

give them a break?...you over estimate my powers! :lol:

 

I wasn't aware you had any powers Mushy, :lol: just opinions like everyone else.