Lily Allen sparks new drugs controversy

Sunday, February 15 2009, 10:19 GMT

Digitalspy.com

By Daniel Kilkelly, Entertainment Reporter

 

Lily Allen is at the centre of another drugs row today after claiming that children should be allowed to try class-A substances.

 

The singer's latest remarks come just weeks after she was criticised for suggesting that the use of cocaine is "no problem at all".

 

Speaking about class-A drugs like ecstasy, Allen told Dutch magazine Revu: "Parents should say, 'Drugs might seem fun, but they do funny things to your brain. Some people react to it good, some don't. Try it and see what you think'."

 

The star added that fame currently prevents her from using ecstasy pills herself, explaining: "If I hadn't been famous I'd have taken loads. Wouldn't be too wise right now."

 

Speaking to the News Of The World, Tory MP Patrick Mercer has described Allen's comments as "extraordinary", while Rob Broomfield, from Dads Against Drugs, labelled her "immature".

 

Allen insisted that she does not condone illegal drug use after facing criticism for her previous remarks in January.

 

Do you agree with Lily Alllen that kids should be allowed to try ecstacy, cocaine or heroin or do you think Lily Allen is an annoying publicity seeking "Amy Winehouse but without the talent"?

Oh for god's sake, motormouth Lily Allen strikes again when there's a new album to promote. :rolleyes:

 

It's not as if she's unintelligent or anything, I don't see why she makes stupid remarks like this.

But it's NOT stupid! Why is it stupid? What's stupid is that time after time society fails to understand that the majority of young people who engage in illegal activity do so because it is illegal. They do it to rebel, because there's a rush to be had out of knowing you're doing something which you could get in trouble for.

 

If they could find a way to make it possible for young people to legally try class-A drugs, I'd be all for it. Perhaps they could do small-scale, monitored courses whereby young adults (no older than 20s) accompany you on a big night out, with permission to have the substance on your person. Then they can get coked up and see what it's like. Then the next day they could speak to somebody in their 30s who thought it was brilliant but did so much of it that they ended up unable to speak properly or with mental retardation or similar. It'd be a learning curve.

 

So yeah, she's not wrong. It's just easy to jump on her.

But it's NOT stupid! Why is it stupid? What's stupid is that time after time society fails to understand that the majority of young people who engage in illegal activity do so because it is illegal. They do it to rebel, because there's a rush to be had out of knowing you're doing something which you could get in trouble for.

 

If they could find a way to make it possible for young people to legally try class-A drugs, I'd be all for it. Perhaps they could do small-scale, monitored courses whereby young adults (no older than 20s) accompany you on a big night out, with permission to have the substance on your person. Then they can get coked up and see what it's like. Then the next day they could speak to somebody in their 30s who thought it was brilliant but did so much of it that they ended up unable to speak properly or with mental retardation or similar. It'd be a learning curve.

 

So yeah, she's not wrong. It's just easy to jump on her.

 

So you think its a good idea for kids to go straight to cocaine and heroin to see what its like, and what happens if there are quite a few deaths. Acceptable losses to prove a point! Give me strength. DRUGS ARE ADDICTIVE. My god if you are speaking as the youth of today, the next generation will all be smackheads by their 20's, if they live that long.Well carry on if it makes you feel cool. This is the same attitude teenagers did when they started smoking and they die of lung cancer some years down the road. 50 years ago teenagers were ignorant of the dangers of smoking, today's teenagers have all the medical facts. Drugs like cocaine and heroin really mess with your head and body, but hey ho call me an old fuddy duddy.

 

Lily Allen is just an attention seeking girl who should know better, but as already quoted she has a record out. What's the old saying, no such thing as bad publicity.

But it's NOT stupid! Why is it stupid? What's stupid is that time after time society fails to understand that the majority of young people who engage in illegal activity do so because it is illegal. They do it to rebel, because there's a rush to be had out of knowing you're doing something which you could get in trouble for.

 

If they could find a way to make it possible for young people to legally try class-A drugs, I'd be all for it. Perhaps they could do small-scale, monitored courses whereby young adults (no older than 20s) accompany you on a big night out, with permission to have the substance on your person. Then they can get coked up and see what it's like. Then the next day they could speak to somebody in their 30s who thought it was brilliant but did so much of it that they ended up unable to speak properly or with mental retardation or similar. It'd be a learning curve.

 

So yeah, she's not wrong. It's just easy to jump on her.

 

I think it's not that easy, wouldn't that lead to an addiction in some cases? You can't let everyone take drugs and pretend they don't become addicts. Showing kids what effects could drugs cause to their brains is one thing, but letting them try drugs is another. I think it's going way too far, how will parents control their kids if they like what they've tried and start looking for them illegally and start abusing?

 

 

That's obviously a problem with the idea (a big one!) but what I'm saying is that in principle she isn't talking rubbish - people try these things to rebel. Perhaps I'm leading into the 'legalise class A drugs' argument here, I don't know.

But it's NOT stupid! Why is it stupid? What's stupid is that time after time society fails to understand that the majority of young people who engage in illegal activity do so because it is illegal. They do it to rebel, because there's a rush to be had out of knowing you're doing something which you could get in trouble for.

 

If they could find a way to make it possible for young people to legally try class-A drugs, I'd be all for it. Perhaps they could do small-scale, monitored courses whereby young adults (no older than 20s) accompany you on a big night out, with permission to have the substance on your person. Then they can get coked up and see what it's like. Then the next day they could speak to somebody in their 30s who thought it was brilliant but did so much of it that they ended up unable to speak properly or with mental retardation or similar. It'd be a learning curve.

 

So yeah, she's not wrong. It's just easy to jump on her.

 

Nah, no way..... Not Class A's..... I'd maybe say, yes to Cannabis or magic mushies, even LSD at a push (I tried all this lot as a teenager myself so I'm in no position to make judgements on these particular substances)..... But come on Jark, Heroin..??? Crack....??? Don't be bloody silly mate, I wouldn't touch that sh!t, never have, never will...... I'd go with you on the second part though, the whole "talking to an addict who's now totally fukked up", but, er, I dont think that actually shooting up skag or smoking crack should be a pre-requisite for that sort of discussion.....

 

And, well, this is just another example of how utterly retarded Lily Allen is..... Another stupid middle-class "celeb" who thinks it's all "just a larrrrffff" and who has no idea whatsoever of the real effects of drugs on the streets and the blood, pain, misery and gangs shooting and knifeing each other over 'turf wars' that results from the illicit drugs trade.... I bet she's never gone home and found a fukkin' dirty needle on her staircase or a fukkin' junkie passed out in a doorway, needle in his arm, well, I have, I've seen sh!t you and she wouldn't believe.....

Perhaps I'm leading into the 'legalise class A drugs' argument here, I don't know.[/size]

 

And that would be a different debate.... One which I actually have a bit of sympathy for.... If for no other reason than to curb the instances of illicit dealing, taking the trade out of the hands of gangsters, heavily regulating and controlling these substances and hopefully do away with the violence and turf wars that come with the illegal trade.... I'm not unrealistic, I KNOW that people will want to get fukked up no matter what, so prob best to make sure that they can do it safely at least (and preferably in certain designated areas), but we certainly shouldn't be giving any 'green lights' to youngsters that this sort of sh!t is in any way cool or desirable or glamourous.... Unfortunately when the likes of Lily fukkin' Allen or Pete Doherty open their gobs, they make it sound just that, cool and glamourous.....

 

Nah, no way..... Not Class A's..... I'd maybe say, yes to Cannabis or magic mushies, even LSD at a push (

 

naaahhh.... substances like that are only 'safe' in the hand (or heads) of people who are stable mentaly as they will exagerate your state of mind no matter which way its orientated. most young people arent stable enough to handle them imho.

 

strange...read an artical yesterday where lily allen claims theres no drugs or alcohol in her flat. she wants to 'remain in control' or so she claims, so that doesnt add up to this latest ramble.

 

best ignore her.

naaahhh.... substances like that are only 'safe' in the hand (or heads) of people who are stable mentaly as they will exagerate your state of mind no matter which way its orientated. most young people arent stable enough to handle them imho.

 

I only mentioned those cos I experimented with them at that age and it didn't do me any harm, and I would be an utter hypocrite to act as some sort of moral guardian against teens trying out cannabis, mushies or acid......

 

I dont really buy this whole "cannabis causes mental illness" garbage tbh, sounds like propaganda to me, I mean, obviously if you spend your entire bloody DAY, morning, noon and night tokeing, it's gonna have a detrimental effect sooner or later, and more fool you for being dim enough to do so, but you can say the same sh!t about consuming alcohol day in day out as well, Christ, you wanna talk about stuff that causes mood swings..... :rolleyes:

 

 

I say that no drugs should be legalised. Full stop. Children shouldn't be trying ANY DRUGS.

strange...read an artical yesterday where lily allen claims theres no drugs or alcohol in her flat. she wants to 'remain in control' or so she claims, so that doesnt add up to this latest ramble.

 

best ignore her.

 

hmmm, yeah, good point.... On the one hand she says she wants to remain in control of her life and then on the other, she recommends kids potentially losing control by taking Class A substances.... Indeed, it makes no sense.... :wacko: Her views on this subject are clearly not at all well thought out or consistent.... I remember Noel Gallagher once saying words to the effect that for some people taking drugs was as natural as drinking a cup of tea or coffee would be for others.... Well, he had a valid point there, that's how some people do see it, unlike Lily, he actually thought that one out and made a valid point, predictably he was misquoted...

 

Lily Allen on the other hand is really just a professional attention-seeker (you know, coming from a showbiz family, kind of par for the course I suppose.... :lol: ), it's not the first time she's gobsh!ted to this degree, wont be the last.... Indeed, probably best ignore her, maybe she'll go away..... :rolleyes:

 

I say that no drugs should be legalised. Full stop.

 

Er saying "full stop", that would kind of include alcohol, cigarettes, coffee, your anti-depression meds...... :rolleyes:

 

Didn't really think that one out did you mate.....? :lol:

 

Here's a fact for you, prescription drugs are every bit as addictive as Heroin..... I've seen people become addicted to their meds, prozac, tranquilisers, valium, etc..... I've also heard about examples of people become so addicted to prescription drugs that even after being cut off by their doc, they went out and bought other peoples' prescriptions, or stole prescriptions from doctors' surgeries, people go through the same sorts of withdrawal as junkies or crack addicts.... So, what's the answer to that one then mate.....?

 

I meant what I and most people call "drugs" ie ecstacy, cocaine, heroin etc etc. Cigs and booze aren't drugs in my book.

Lily threatens to sue

Yahoo.co.uk

Monday February 16, 2009 01:32 PM

 

Lily Allen is threatening to sue a British newspaper over a story they published which claimed she supported drug use.

 

The singer sealed her return to the pop frontline by claiming the UK Number One with new album "It's Not Me, It's You" yesterday.

 

She also took to her Twitter page to refute a piece in the News Of The World, which was translated from a Dutch interview.

 

In the article, they quoted Lily as saying parents should advise their children to experiment with narcotics.

 

However, in a status update posted yesterday, she denied ever making the comments, saying she "won't let the c*nts ruin my day".

 

She wrote: "Phoning my lawyers and taking legal action, news of the world need a better dutch translator, as if I would say that (about drugs). And they know it..."

Good for her, but will the papers learn, no. Of course not, the papers will continue to spout false stories.

That's obviously a problem with the idea (a big one!) but what I'm saying is that in principle she isn't talking rubbish - people try these things to rebel. Perhaps I'm leading into the 'legalise class A drugs' argument here, I don't know.

Not really paying much attention to what Lily actually has to say (I don't really care). The wider argument is about the prohibition of drugs at a whole. It was only a week or so ago that the Government's chief drugs adviser said something on the lines of "that taking the drug was no more dangerous than an addiction to horse riding".

 

Here is a point I agree with, although having very few drug-taking experiences, I do associate with people who do recreational drugs so know more than a fair majority of the general public. What I tend to agree with is that most drugs, such as E's, Cannabis, "Shrooms" etc should be legalised, which in turn would bring benefits to society in general, the economy (global and domestic) and the drug users themselves. Alcohol related deaths in 2007 were 8,724. Off the top of my head, 3 people have died because of cannabis. And a few more die of Ecstasy related deaths. Surely this is disproportionate?

 

If drugs were to be legalised, it'd be possible to set up "licensed premises" or the like, not many in each place (one or two in each City). Here, the drug taking would be in controlled doses, in a safe environment with security and support if anything did go wrong. With this, can come tax and other costs on to the drugs. Making sure they don't become too expensive would continue to encourage people to go to these "pubs for drugs".

 

With these extra taxes, drug education in Schools can become more prevalent and could be taught (especially in secondary schools) the pro's and cons of drug-taking, the risks associated etc. Making it legal could also make it less fashionable, although this argument doesn't really wash with me, as alcohol is legal but it is still fashionable to do :lol:

 

Some people want to get absolutely off their faces, some just want to have a bit of fun. With a secure environment to do so in, with the right support given to people who want to get off the drugs, funded by the tax made off them. These people would be off the streets. It'd also help promote a "free country", not the nanny state that we currently live in!

 

It's a shame I couldn't just copy and paste you an essay I had to do on this subject not so long ago, especially as it was the one that got me offers from two "prestigious" universities :lol: (Although not Oxbridge).

She's only making a valid point. Okay, herion, no kid should try it, but for people who do?, let them. It's their life, let them f*** it up without the government interfering.

 

But obv, Cannabis, I don't see a harm in teenagers being allowed to try it. If they don't like it, they'd stay clear of it, and if they do, then maybe they'd show respect for it, same with drink. 'Curiosity killed the cat', if people aren't getting curious and are able to be allowed to experiment, heck maybe even taught how to do it right :lol: , then I reckon it would do a lot of good to drug crime rates in this country.

I hope for Lily's sake that its a mistake...

If I, as a 16 year old, was given Cocaine to "try" and it was for legal purposes, i would refuse straight away. Asked me this a few weeks ago, chances are i wouldve accepted but now, Its because of that $h!t that my mate is lying in hospital after being stabbed and bled pints of blood... I know i may be going on about it but its cos i feel so strongly about it...

 

^^ To the above point though (I may or may not be playing Devil's Advocate here), would your friend have been stabbed had drugs been legalised? Legalise drugs and you take away the illegal trade and thereby a significant amount of the problems that arise from drugs...granted, not the effects from the taking of the drugs or the crime to fuel addictions, but still, would it be worth it? I would be interested to see how Crazy Chris would respond to seeing some figures from The Netherlands tbh...