February 23, 200916 yr Trashlexis, could you please point to where I said I support the BNP? I NEVER SAID THAT! I said I support one of their policies ie no more immigration,
February 23, 200916 yr And yet you support a RACIST party..... Do I? Please quote WHERE i said that. I said I support ONE of their policies ie no more immigration as we're an island with finite space. I never ever said I support them or have ever voted for them. :angry:
February 23, 200916 yr Basically I feel that the BNP should be treated in the same light as al Moujharoun or Abu Hamza's lot.... We banned them, and imprisoned Hamza for making hate-speech to provoke violence, well, as far as I'm concerned this is exactly what Griffin's mob is doing also, yet we dont ban them, I reckon it smacks of double standards tbh..... I can see why a lot of Muslims feel that the law favours the white race and not non-whites or non-Christians...... Theres's no middle ground for me, you either say that both Hamza AND Griffin can have free speech, or you say neither of them can..... they would get banned IF there was any EVIDENCE that they are breaking the law... but under this countries laws they aint. And why's that then Chris? Cos they're taking your job away from you are they......? :rolleyes: And here we have a perfect example of the typical "British jobs for British workers" type....... :lol: :lol: :lol: I can't be as my wife isn't white but from the Philippines! mail order bride?...
February 23, 200916 yr Grimly Fiendish - go take your old 1980 Labour party views and go f*** yourself. My boyfriend is Dutch, but although he speaks Dutch he would rather integerate with the rest of us in England and keep Dutch between him and his family.
February 23, 200916 yr Trashlexis, could you please point to where I said I support the BNP? I NEVER SAID THAT! I said I support one of their policies ie no more immigration, You don't support them yet you've admitted (maybe not here, granted) that YOU VOTED FOR THEM!
February 23, 200916 yr they would get banned IF there was any EVIDENCE that they are breaking the law... but under this countries laws they aint. :lol: :lol: :lol: mail order bride?... Of course not. :angry:
February 23, 200916 yr mail order bride?... Come on now, that's just rude.. The BNP are racist. Their policies aren't even worth going into. But it is a fact that immigration levels are high, and that such a tiny island will struggle to cope within the next 20 years or so if people keep coming in..
February 23, 200916 yr Come on now, that's just rude.. The BNP are racist. Their policies aren't even worth going into. But it is a fact that immigration levels are high, and that such a tiny island will struggle to cope within the next 20 years or so if people keep coming in.. But don't you think that if it does become too overcrowded that immigrants would leave the country alone. If there's already too high strain on resources and they're going to struggle to look find a job or place to live they aren't going to come are they? A lot of what's said in the media, you'd think that immigrants would still come here if there was literally no space...
February 23, 200916 yr And what do you think the BNP will do to "democracy" if, god forbid, they ever took office...? They'd clearly do what Hitler and Stalin did and throw it out the window.... I guess you want the concentration camps and ethnic cleansing in the UK do you Craig.....? They dont like Jews mate any more than they like Muslims or immigrants.... perhaps you should remember this when you start spouting on about the BNP and their "right" to legitimacy.... These people are LIARS, they pretend to have the welfare of the workers at heart, but, Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini also made those claims, and they too were a bunch of liars who destroyed the rights and freedoms of workers, taking away their voices, stopping them from forming trade unions and workers' collectives. It is a pattern that works with all extremist forms of government.... Any working class person who believes that the BNP actually has their interests at heart is frankly fooling themselves, there is NO party out there at the moment that gives a flying fukk about the working class, about time a real workers' party was formed, because it sure aint Nu Labor or the fukkin' BNP..... And I tell you what makes me laugh about the "British jobs for British workers" lot, half of these bone idle chav c/unts have never even worked a day in their miserable LIVES, nor would they "stoop" to actually get their hands dirty and actually do some, gasp, MANUAL LABOUR, or WORK IN TESCO, or WORK PULLING PINTS IN A PUB, or, CLEAN OUT TOILETS... Perish the thought....... :rolleyes: Naah, they leave all that sort of stuff to the immigrants and then bitch about "bloody immigrants taking our jobs, which, er, we dont want to do anyway...." Morons..... -_- And let's just remember that there is NO SUCH FUKKIN THING as the pure "british" race anyway, so, frankly I dunno what these bloody dullards like Griffin and Darby are even fukkin' arguing about tbh (I could include Alex Salmond or John Swinney in that, but, flaws aside, at least the SNP's policies aren't based around racism and lies and the SNP in general are far more tolerant of immigrants) We're all a bunch of fukkin' MUTTS.... There is no ENGLISH, no SCOTTISH, no WELSH, no IRISH anymore... There is no Briton, no Albion, No Caledonia, we aint Picts, Celts or Saxons (who, er, were GERMANIC anyway LOL).... Down the ages our blood and DNA has been "contaminated" with Italian (Romans), French (Normans), Romany, Saxon (Germans), Jewish, Heugenot, etc, etc, heck, even TURKISH and ARABIC... A few years back, a channel 4 documentary proved that our bloodline was not pure, by taking inviduals who insisted that they were "pure English" and then proving to them that they, well, kinda weren't..... Oh, how that made me laugh, not to mention my born-in-Essex, by way of Scotland and Sweden mate..... :lol: I hate the BNP as much as you do, but making the party illegal would set a dangerous precedent... it would give the government the OK to perhaps ban parties making radical but legitimate policies (including the SNP for one). At the end of the day, we're British, we just don't do extremism. I know that sounds a ridiculous argument, but I'm confident it's true... you just have to look at how rare strikes and protests are to see that's the case. And especially, there's the fact that the British Union of Fascists gained a pitiful following even at the height of the Great Depression, and that was even with their leading being someone who was previously a well-respected mainstream politician (something Nick Griffin is definitely not). We've just got to have faith that, like then, no matter how bad things get, the majority of British people will not turn to such vile extremes.
February 23, 200916 yr No but the wait for Council Houses here in East London is years as they're all given to Immigrants. We've never been able to get one. See, backed up my point with a fact there! Have those of you who hate the BNP ever read their website? A lot of their policies actually make a lot of sense. If it's such an awful party how come it's the most read Website out of all the parties then? Oh and before anyone accuses me of being racist as they did on a certain other forum I can't be as my wife isn't white but from the Philippines! :mellow: What would your wife say if she knew you support the BNP??
February 23, 200916 yr God knows how a member of the BNP got into one of East Londons Councils (Barking and Dagenham) where the majority of people living in that area are black.
February 23, 200916 yr Grimly Fiendish - go take your old 1980 Labour party views and go f*** yourself. And what's wrong with his views? :/ I'd certainly find 1980 Tory party views far more offensive - what's wrong with the left-wing being vocal? Because we sure as hell don't have a proper left-wing mainstream party anymore...
February 24, 200916 yr And what's wrong with his views? :/ I'd certainly find 1980 Tory party views far more offensive - what's wrong with the left-wing being vocal? Because we sure as hell don't have a proper left-wing mainstream party anymore... He is like the 1980s Labour radicals that led to the rape of the party in the 1980s by the Tories. I mean it's 2009 now, surely he needs to get with the times and live in the real. It's people like that who are whats wrong with the UK with their PC views. I'm sick of his left wing rhetoric on here. Why doesnt he live in North Korea or China? Edited February 24, 200916 yr by Besmilliah
February 24, 200916 yr He is like the 1980s Labour radicals that led to the rape of the party in the 1980s by the Tories. I mean it's 2009 now, surely he needs to get with the times and live in the real. It's people like that who are whats wrong with the UK with their PC views. I'm sick of his left wing rhetoric on here. Why doesnt he live in North Korea or China? Oh, look another idiot..... :rolleyes: The only people who "raped" the Labour party were the spivvy spin merchants like Campbell, Mandelson and B-liar..... And just what the fukk does North Korea or China have to do with Socialism, are they exactly promoting workers' rights.....? Are they fukk.... They're both about as Socialist as a kick in the bollocks...... They never were Socialist or Marxist..... And, by the way, Go fukk yourself mate....
February 24, 200916 yr God knows how a member of the BNP got into one of East Londons Councils (Barking and Dagenham) where the majority of people living in that area are black. Voter apathy, simple as... And it's no fukkin' wonder, NONE of the mainstream parties are really worth voting for these days.... You could put a fag paper between the differences in Labour and Tory, people should perhaps give the Lib Dems a chance, given the absolute shambles that the main two have made of things for over 30 years, but it prob wont happen......
February 24, 200916 yr I hate the BNP as much as you do, but making the party illegal would set a dangerous precedent... it would give the government the OK to perhaps ban parties making radical but legitimate policies (including the SNP for one). At the end of the day, we're British, we just don't do extremism. I know that sounds a ridiculous argument, but I'm confident it's true... you just have to look at how rare strikes and protests are to see that's the case. And especially, there's the fact that the British Union of Fascists gained a pitiful following even at the height of the Great Depression, and that was even with their leading being someone who was previously a well-respected mainstream politician (something Nick Griffin is definitely not). We've just got to have faith that, like then, no matter how bad things get, the majority of British people will not turn to such vile extremes. Wish I could have the faith in the "great British public" that you do, but I dont frankly.... There seems to be an increasing level of chavvishness and general scummy behaviour going on.... Racial attacks are increasing It's only a dangerous precedent if you regard them as a legit political party... I dont... They're just a re-branding of the NF. The SNP and Plaid Cymru have never had such extremist origins, and Sinn Fein existed long before the Provisional IRA and their actions in the 70s and 80s, the BNP has no such history, they appeared out of the blue, coincidentally (ha, ha...), a few years after the NF disbanded.... I guess if Al Qaeda called themselves the Al Qaeda Political Party, that would make them legitimate as well, would it.....?
February 24, 200916 yr He is like the 1980s Labour radicals that led to the rape of the party in the 1980s by the Tories. I mean it's 2009 now, surely he needs to get with the times and live in the real. It's people like that who are whats wrong with the UK with their PC views. I'm sick of his left wing rhetoric on here. Why doesnt he live in North Korea or China? :lol: ... tbh there does seem to be some truth in this, grim often DOES sound like a leftie from 1980! ..... only then they were called 'commies'. however... if you are sick of his left wing rhetoric why dont you counter it with right wing rhetoric? if hes wrong, why not prove it by logic and debate? cant be arsed? well then, either put up or shut up. :)
February 24, 200916 yr Why doesnt he live in North Korea or China? Agreed. Sooner the better. Will you go halves with me for his one way ticket? Edited February 24, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris
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