I dont know a single Bangladeshi person who cant speak English... It's pretty much taught in Bangladeshi schools practically from primary onwards.... Why the fukk do you think all these bloody call centres relocated out there....? They DIDN'T got to Africa, the DIDN'T go to Russia or Poland, they went to India or Bangladesh, both countries with a very wide dissemination of English speaking, so Bangladeshis aren't really the problem.... You seem to think that just because Bangladeshi folks speak Bengali to each other in private conversations that this somehow means that they dont have knowledge of English, you are very, very wrong in that assumption..... Frankly, I find it a lot less hard work to understand my Bangladeshi colleagues when they speak English, than I do some fukkin' chav from North London or Glasgow who can barely bloody speak English properly even though they were born here and went through the BRITISH education system, I mean, what are we saying here, that schools in Bangladesh are teaching their kids English better than we are teaching OURS.....? Is that actually what we're saying....?

 

Howabout we give our OWN compulsory bloody elocution and grammar lessons before we start slagging of anyone else.....

 

As for Somalis - well, if you actually bothered to read one of my earlier posts, then you MAY have just picked up on the FACT that young kids are being force into fighting in the army or paramilitaries by psychotic armed gangs.... If they dont do what they're told, they're brutalised, tortured and killed.. As soon as these poor buggers can escape from that situation, what the fukk do you expect them to do...? Do sodding night classes and learn a language before they flee for their lives...? You and Rob both, STOP being prats.... Your priveleged Western existence just cannot even comprehend what life is like for these kids in places like Somalia and Sierra Leone.....

 

And, even when they've escaped get here, it can be incredibly difficult for them to actually adjust to normal life, because they are very likely to be suffering from POST TRAUMATIC STRESS from being child soldiers..... They deserve sympathy, NOT to be pilloried by a bunch of narrow minded BNP supporting tossers....

 

Those 3 countries I mentioned were just 3 throwaway names off the top of my head, could swap those for any countries I was speaking in general terms there

 

I don't think it is unreasonable for an economic migrant (not someone fleeing genocide) to be able to speak the language of the country they are coming to, I want people to come to this country to contribute, to work, to pay tax etc, if they can't speak English then the first 2 words of English they will know is BENEFIT OFFICE

The difference is though with those countries that you listed you have to have a job to go to before being allowed to settle in the country, the Western expats are hired by the local companies (oil, gas, hospitals etc etc) before they arrive in the country so less important

 

But surely "local jobs for local people" yeah, isn't that the new mantra now.....? :rolleyes: And I think you'll find that many of the Polish and EE workers who work on building sites are hired in exactly the same manner as you describe British people being hired to work in Saudi, etc... So, sauce for the goose, and NOT for the gander......? Double standards methinks.... Not vital for YOU to learn Arabic, but somehow vital for Poles on short contracts to learn English when they might be working in Germany, France or Belgium a few months later......?

 

Typical of British arrogance though, EVERYONE has to speak English, but, WE dont seem to think that we have to learn another's even when we DO live out there..... It IS a double standard mate, there's simply no getting round the fact......

 

then the first 2 words of English they will know is BENEFIT OFFICE

 

Sounds like the first words learned by Chavs as well..... :rolleyes:

 

I managed to get around this language trap by going to a country that spoke English :magic:

 

My German is of a horrific standard and i would never be able to obtain a reasonable grasp of any language in a few months to be able to be laectured and sit exams in the language.

 

Not all ex-pats that don't learn new languages are being hypocritial, they could have gone to an english speaking country such as the US or Aus. If i were to move to canada i think i'd learn a little french seeing as it is their 2nd language. :heehee:

Scott, if a person fleeing to the UK is unable to speak the language - they ARE offered English lessons.

 

The same as people claiming Jobseekers Allowance in any Jobcentre Plus who have problems with the native tongue.

 

The ACTUAL reason for them not speaking the language?

 

Under 10% of the people offered this (free) service actually take it up.

 

TEN PER CENT!

 

Part of my job entails liaison with the local Job centres - and each of them has the same tale - if there's an advisor there who speaks the claimants native language (and there are multi-lingual liaison officers in almost every single JCP now)- they simply cannot be bothered to study the lingo. And in the case of the many Romanian families now descending upon us, the males in the family have a tendency to DENY the females the right to learn the language.

 

Ten per cent Scott - in fact, UNDER ten per cent.... free service, confidential, courses run to suit the pupil's timescales and schedules.......

 

So is this a case of not being able to, Scott... or just not being bothered to?