Watch the clips of when she was young.

 

Completely irrelevent we are talking about her tour now. Which is a complete con IMHO if she lip-sync's her way to it.

 

The sad fact is an artist who was once great live as Michael Jackson (whatever you think of him as a humour being) gained his reputation in his 1980s zenith via singing live AND putting on a brilliant show/spectacle.

 

Michael Jackson - Thriller live (1987)

 

Yet now because of the "so what" attitude towards Britney Spears unforgiveably miming her way on tour; then MJ thinks he can get away with doing the same thing that would have seen his career destroyed long before those child molestation allegations were made had he tried the same trick two decades ago as what Britney is doing now.

 

As I posted earlier, conning the public by miming live and being found out destroyed the career of Milli Vanilli in 1990; Yet nearly two decades on, it is deemed to be now acceptable thanks to Britney Spears' doing it.

 

BUT THIS SHOULD NEVER EVER BE DEEMED ACCEPTABLE. Period. :angry:

 

Especially, as music technology is more developed than it ever was; sound boards are better than ever; microphones are better than ever; etc.

 

In short, if you think it is acceptable to mime live concert, then that is all the proof needed to know that standards expected of music artists have dropped since the 1960s; 1970s & Pre SAW/NKOTB 1980s. Because their would have been riots had the likes of Elvis Presley, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Stevie Wonder, Queen, Kate Bush, Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, U2, Duran Duran, etc had tried that stunt in front of paying customers.

Completely irrelevent we are talking about her tour now. Which is a complete con IMHO if she lip-sync's her way to it.

Well we can say the same really, when people are asking "has she ever sang live" etc... Tyler was only pointing out that she HAS sang live before... And a couple of them in that vid are quite recent...

I think this whole episode is how entertainment, like life in general has been dumbed down. If people are willing to pay good money to watch a mime act ... then let it be. Its their money. Britney miming and dancing badly isn't going to harm the world's economy is it? It isn't going to have any impact on global warming is it? She isn't doing any harm to anyone is she?

 

Norma

I think this whole episode is how entertainment, like life in general has been dumbed down. If people are willing to pay good money to watch a mime act ... then let it be. Its their money. Britney miming and dancing badly isn't going to harm the world's economy is it? It isn't going to have any impact on global warming is it? She isn't doing any harm to anyone is she?

 

Norma

 

I agree with Norma once again :P

Completely irrelevent we are talking about her tour now. Which is a complete con IMHO if she lip-sync's her way to it.

 

It IS relevant when he asked me if she EVER has sang live, hence the video. And it isn't a con when EVERYONE and their mother knows she is bound to lip-sync ATLEAST part of the show.

 

I think it's sad how people would rather see a completely mimed 'show' than someone with great vocals and less of a show. For me it's all about the singing first, then whether it's spectacular or not. Maybe it makes me boring but I'd rather watch someone sitting behind a piano with perfect vocals over someone like Britney.

 

But it's a bonus if they can sing and put on a show which is why I knew going to see P!nk for my first concert was a good move. I don't know how much of it was live but seeing P!nk even singing half of "Sober" (I know she did the verses live at least) while swinging around on a trapeze was really quite something. I've watched bits of Britney's "Circus" tour on Youtube and even her dancing isn't that good. She dances around in a cage on "Piece Of Me" and walks around with a whip on "Circus", 'great'.

Part of the show? It's 95% of the show! Fair enough for anybody who's willing to waste their money on it though :heehee: Obviously you can never say for sure without being there but I've seen plenty of videos of the circus tour and it looks so dull. It's not like she even does much dancing! Real dancing, not the pointing we've become accustomed to. :heehee:#

 

And I'm so with you on this Aaron. All of 'Sober' was live; this is whilst forty feet in the air on a trapeze swing. P!nk is the most impressive talent in pop music quite easily. I'd also rather see a stripped-back show with the emphasis on vocals because 'wow' vocals, well, wow me :P

I think it's sad how people would rather see a completely mimed 'show' than someone with great vocals and less of a show. For me it's all about the singing first, then whether it's spectacular or not. Maybe it makes me boring but I'd rather watch someone sitting behind a piano with perfect vocals over someone like Britney.

 

But it's a bonus if they can sing and put on a show which is why I knew going to see P!nk for my first concert was a good move. I don't know how much of it was live but seeing P!nk even singing half of "Sober" (I know she did the verses live at least) while swinging around on a trapeze was really quite something. I've watched bits of Britney's "Circus" tour on Youtube and even her dancing isn't that good. She dances around in a cage on "Piece Of Me" and walks around with a whip on "Circus", 'great'.

 

It isn't sad, it's a difference of opinion and taste.

I think it's sad that you don't know the difference...

Okay, so if Britney was to be singing live in concert, dancing around as hard and as fast as she can, she'd be huffing and puffing and then everyone will complain that she's a crap live singer!

 

I'm not sticking up for her, I don't think it's right to mime at all, but Britney's different, she's an entertainer and everyone going to watch her perform is going to want to see a performance, not a live show.

I think it's sad how people would rather see a completely mimed 'show' than someone with great vocals and less of a show. For me it's all about the singing first, then whether it's spectacular or not. Maybe it makes me boring but I'd rather watch someone sitting behind a piano with perfect vocals over someone like Britney.

 

But it's a bonus if they can sing and put on a show which is why I knew going to see P!nk for my first concert was a good move. I don't know how much of it was live but seeing P!nk even singing half of "Sober" (I know she did the verses live at least) while swinging around on a trapeze was really quite something. I've watched bits of Britney's "Circus" tour on Youtube and even her dancing isn't that good. She dances around in a cage on "Piece Of Me" and walks around with a whip on "Circus", 'great'.

 

She sings all of Sober live :cheer:

 

I read in an interview ages ago that the day she lip syncs will be the day that she stops doing what she does all together. I also read somewhere recently that the reason she shouts "SING IT" after the first verse is so that people know she is actually singing. You can also hear her panting for breath through the song too :wub:

 

When I saw her in manchester, or it might have been liverpool or london i cant remember :lol: ) she said, "Have you ever noticed that when people lip sync they move their tongue more?" :rofl:

 

She also forgets the words to some of the songs (usually crystal ball :lol: ) and has often said something along the line of 'maybe i should lip sync then i could get through a whole song without messing it up' :D

 

It isn't sad, it's a difference of opinion and taste.

I think it's sad that you don't know the difference...

I meant sad in the literal sense. I think it's ridiculous that you lot burn cash by paying to see someone like Britney dance for and hour and a half. She's not even that good at it. If she was a world class dancer I'd understand but she's not, she's distinctly average.

 

But whatever. I'm never going to knowingly pay to see this 'entertainment', it's just a shame so many other people allow $h!t like this from artists.

 

Okay, so if Britney was to be singing live in concert, dancing around as hard and as fast as she can, she'd be huffing and puffing and then everyone will complain that she's a crap live singer!

 

I'm not sticking up for her, I don't think it's right to mime at all, but Britney's different, she's an entertainer and everyone going to watch her perform is going to want to see a performance, not a live show.

But the thing is, she doesn't really dance or move fast these days. On this current tour she seems to mostly walk around the circle stage and shake her ass. She doesn't do much dancing that would actually restrict her from singing. It's a shame that the woman isn't even 30 can use the "she'll be too out of breath" excuse to get out of singing. She should be in her prime.

 

But why is Britney an entertainer, not a singer? What makes her different to any other female singer who is expected to sing live? If the likes of Christina Aguilera, P!nk, Ciara, Beyoncé etc. mime they get criticised but they don't get out so easily with the "she's a performer, it doesn't matter if she's singing" excuse.

 

If Britney can do it, what's stopping everyone else following suit. People will obviously pay to see a show with no instruments or live vocals, so why should anyone else bother? The worst thing is Britney is probably going to have one of the biggest tours of the year and it's a big rip off.

Okay, so if Britney was to be singing live in concert, dancing around as hard and as fast as she can, she'd be huffing and puffing and then everyone will complain that she's a crap live singer!

 

I'm not sticking up for her, I don't think it's right to mime at all, but Britney's different, she's an entertainer and everyone going to watch her perform is going to want to see a performance, not a live show.

 

But she's not dancing hard or fast in this current tour. She's dancing about the same pace as The Saturdays on their current tour who are all giving great live vocals on every song.

Well, live vocals at least. 'Great' would be pushing it from what I've seen :heehee:

She sings all of Sober live :cheer:

 

I read in an interview ages ago that the day she lip syncs will be the day that she stops doing what she does all together. I also read somewhere recently that the reason she shouts "SING IT" after the first verse is so that people know she is actually singing. You can also hear her panting for breath through the song too :wub:

 

When I saw her in manchester, or it might have been liverpool or london i cant remember :lol: ) she said, "Have you ever noticed that when people lip sync they move their tongue more?" :rofl:

 

She also forgets the words to some of the songs (usually crystal ball :lol: ) and has often said something along the line of 'maybe i should lip sync then i could get through a whole song without messing it up' :D

Well that's just amazing. I can believe she can do a performance like this completely live:

 

 

That's not the version I saw, but I was watching with my mouth open and it seemed so good that I thought she must have mimed at least some. (in this video the chorus gets me a bit) It's clear that she sings the verses and the panting before the final drop makes it obvious she has her microphone on.

 

She forgot a bit from "I Don't Believe You" when I saw her, then she kept laughing throughout. It kinda ruined it a little for me as I love that song. :( I knew she did the rest live but it was "Sober" that got me wondering.

The whole thing really is shockingly live. From someone who has listened to the song so so much I can tell the tiny differences in her vocal to the studio version. Her backing singers do a good job throughout too. :)

Completely irrelevent we are talking about her tour now. Which is a complete con IMHO if she lip-sync's her way to it.

 

The sad fact is an artist who was once great live as Michael Jackson (whatever you think of him as a humour being) gained his reputation in his 1980s zenith via singing live AND putting on a brilliant show/spectacle.

 

Michael Jackson - Thriller live (1987)

 

Yet now because of the "so what" attitude towards Britney Spears unforgiveably miming her way on tour; then MJ thinks he can get away with doing the same thing that would have seen his career destroyed long before those child molestation allegations were made had he tried the same trick two decades ago as what Britney is doing now.

 

As I posted earlier, conning the public by miming live and being found out destroyed the career of Milli Vanilli in 1990; Yet nearly two decades on, it is deemed to be now acceptable thanks to Britney Spears' doing it.

 

BUT THIS SHOULD NEVER EVER BE DEEMED ACCEPTABLE. Period. :angry:

 

Especially, as music technology is more developed than it ever was; sound boards are better than ever; microphones are better than ever; etc.

 

In short, if you think it is acceptable to mime live concert, then that is all the proof needed to know that standards expected of music artists have dropped since the 1960s; 1970s & Pre SAW/NKOTB 1980s. Because their would have been riots had the likes of Elvis Presley, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Stevie Wonder, Queen, Kate Bush, Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, U2, Duran Duran, etc had tried that stunt in front of paying customers.

 

 

Totally agree, any artist who does not sing "live" while performing on stage is a fake and a fraud. As Johnny Rotten said "Ever felt you have been cheated", well if you pay £100 or so to go and see anyone lip sync or mime you certainly have been cheated. What next, will they not bother turning up on stage but just put up a large screen and show the videos of them singing.

 

I am beginning to wonder if Britney can actually sing at all. If she never sings live on stage in public, how do you know it is her singing the songs, it could be someone else, or it is all computer trickery to improve her vocals, by all accounts her vocals are poor at best.

 

When I go and see a live performance I want to hear a live performance, I am not worried if it is not 100% the same as the record, I don't mind them changing the songs a bit if they interact with the audience, but at least they make the effort and not just take the lazy option.

 

Todays deluded fans of people like Britney and a few others don't know what real live music is, get out there and experience it, you may be pleasantly surprised.

 

If you want to see her dance, then it should be advertised as a dance event with backing music. :)

Britney is probably the only former late 90's teen idols who lipsyncs, while the other 90's teen idols such as bsb,xtina & jessica hell i even think mandy moore sings live.

Well, live vocals at least. 'Great' would be pushing it from what I've seen :heehee:

 

 

See it live and I bet you would think otherwise. I'm not making excuses for Britney, I'd love to say that she sings all her songs live, but she doesn't. But at the same time it doesn't bother me, I thought the Circus tour was going to be sub par in comparison to her other tours but it really isn't. But oh well, everyone has an opinion and things that are important to them when it comes to seeing a show, and when it comes to a show like Britney's I could care less.

 

If you had been to one of her concerts I'm sure you could atleast see where I'm coming from here.

I was referring to Ethereal's point about The Saturdays!

Oh... :lol:

 

Well my comment can be directed to many other posts, so I'll leave it as it is. :P