I love it personally. My boyfriend was born in Australia, although his parents are English. He only lived there for a couple of years though.

Eva Simons will almost definately be pushed back so I personally don't get your theory TiP.

The theory is showing that Mini Viva is cheaper than Eva Simons...

The theory is showing that Mini Viva is cheaper than Eva Simons...

But neither are cheap. . I don't get what his trying to point out at all. We confirmed our entries before they were added onto the release schedule, got hyped or whatever which all the more shows the great choice we made in entering them as we got to them before the hype did. And now they're "cheap"?

More reason to why I don't get it is because the very same thing happened with him entering Tinchy/Amelle and at confirmation it wasn't cheap but when the contest commenced it was added to the release schedule and externally hyped, typical factors that would make a song cheap when before that all took place it wasn't cheap. It was just luck and the fact you chose an entry that ended up as a future hit long after you entered it. .

Neither are cheap tbh, they are new artists who haven't had any UK hits and aren't being played everywhere atm :)

 

Shame Silly Boy's flopping atm though :cry:

Neither are cheap tbh, they are new artists who haven't had any UK hits and aren't being played everywhere atm :)

 

Shame Silly Boy's flopping atm though :cry:

accept Norway :P

Neither are cheap tbh, they are new artists who haven't had any UK hits and aren't being played everywhere atm :)

 

Shame Silly Boy's flopping atm though :cry:

:huh: It's not flopping, it's only being released worldwide on September 7th. So it's likelly to be pushed back until enough airplay/hype is behind it for it to smash. It lurking nowhere on iTunes atm is for obvious reasons, look how long Just Dance took to smash as a similar example. .

:huh: It's not flopping, it's only being released worldwide on September 7th. So it's likelly to be pushed back until enough airplay/hype is behind it for it to smash. It lurking nowhere on iTunes atm is for obvious reasons, look how long Just Dance took to smash as a similar example. .

 

Yeah, I didn't expect it to smash, but I thought it might pop up in the top 300, I think Just Dance was added the week of its release though :P

accept Norway :P

 

Oh :P

 

Well then, I stand corrected :P

Yeah, I didn't expect it to smash, but I thought it might pop up in the top 300, I think Just Dance was added the week of its release though :P

It was readded. . It sold 2075 copies in 2008 from when it was digitally released globablly ofcourse in the UK nobody knew who GaGa was in June 2008 so it got deleted off iTunes so it could smash later on which it did. .

when are the results....?

Monday night at 7pm :)

 

Voting open until Sunday 9:30pm.

Voted. Highest song got 6.9/10 for me LOL. I guess I was just really critical. A lot of okay songs just none of them really stood out for me.

I don't see Silly Boy nor I Left My Heart in Tokyo as cheap obviously considering my past entries. xD However, I've started to feel a built guilty of the trend I think I sort of started around BJSC7, which is that nearly every song that has won since then has been some sort of recent leak / new song (bar Not a Love Song). So, as of recent contests, a lot of times it feels like all the songs that get hyped are the recent leaks. I think it's kinda inevitable tbh thinking about it, but I've just recently gotten the feeling that people tend to gravitate towards the songs that leaked within the month over others.

I don't see Silly Boy nor I Left My Heart in Tokyo as cheap obviously considering my past entries. xD However, I've started to feel a built guilty of the trend I think I sort of started around BJSC7, which is that nearly every song that has won since then has been some sort of recent leak / new song (bar Not a Love Song). So, as of recent contests, a lot of times it feels like all the songs that get hyped are the recent leaks. I think it's kinda inevitable tbh thinking about it, but I've just recently gotten the feeling that people tend to gravitate towards the songs that leaked within the month over others.

 

Yeah you're right about that, although Will You Remember Me Tomorrow was quite old too for a winner, BJSCVII definitely marked a noticeable change in the contest, it certainly moved up a gear with everyone taking it much more seriously and a lot of people clearly becoming more 'in it to win it' rather than sending any random song with hopes of success...Not A Love Song is a bit of an anomaly in terms of recent winners for this reason, which is why I had completely underrated it's chances, I was hoping for top 15 at best but never thought it could possibly overcome all of the other songs in the top ten, the vast majority of which were impending releases, XIV being our most release schedule based contest to date...

 

But I do this now too to be honest, not because I pick recently leaked songs to try to win, but moreso because I (and obviously you and everyone else too) like to send stuff that I am loving at that moment in time as I find myself more willing to support something fresh and new to me (and hopefully to everyone else) than something ancient that I used to love a lot more than I would now...Not A Love Song, although it was a year old at the time of being sent, is not a song I was particularly engrossed in last year when it first came out, so it was easy for me to build an obsession with it at the time of XIV as it felt new to me...since then though, all of my entries (Jungle Drum, I'm Going For Your Brother, Robots In Love, Watch The Sun Come Up, Kongulo) have been new/recently leaked songs, albeit unknown to most...

 

I don't think it's a bad thing though, it certainly hasn't weaked the impact of the contest, if anything they've become stronger from having a lot of newer material in them...I think a contest full of songs like Cars and Afrodisiac (as good as they are) wouldn't be quite as interesting, although one or two older songs per contest is always refreshing, most people tend to already know them anyway, one is a classic former UK #1 and the other is a fairly well known past hit single from a former BJSC winner...of course if you meant that older but more obscure songs should be sent more, I don't think it would make that much difference, how many people even knew that Will You Remember Me Tomorrow/Not A Love Song were older songs? If it's unknown/obscure, most people won't know how old it is anyway I guess...unless like you they already know every song under the sun, no matter how commercial or obscure it is :heehee:

Voted.

 

I must say there were 12-14 songs that were really amazing, the others though not that good and between these two groups nothing.

But neither are cheap. . I don't get what his trying to point out at all. We confirmed our entries before they were added onto the release schedule, got hyped or whatever which all the more shows the great choice we made in entering them as we got to them before the hype did. And now they're "cheap"?

More reason to why I don't get it is because the very same thing happened with him entering Tinchy/Amelle and at confirmation it wasn't cheap but when the contest commenced it was added to the release schedule and externally hyped, typical factors that would make a song cheap when before that all took place it wasn't cheap. It was just luck and the fact you chose an entry that ended up as a future hit long after you entered it. .

I agree, I was going to make the 'Never Leave You' point myself, but as it had no video, I thought it kinda might the point a bit pointless - but you are right. I personally don't find any of them ridiculously cheap, it's not as if they've had a big success with another single, and the hype around Eva Simons is on this site, she's not cheap at all. I guess what the point he's making, is that Mini Viva is now playlisted by Radio 1, and is being played fairly regularly on music channels, but going into the contest, it had zero video play, and it had just gotten onto the 1-Upfront list, the day after I'd confirmed. Eva, is not being radio playlisted and is not being shown on videos, his theory is true as it does show that Mini Viva is cheaper than Eva Simons. However, I don't think any of them are particularly cheap.

 

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And, really, Ben, you're right, a little of people hear fresh leaks, and quite a few leaks that are sent are highly anticipated on this site, but people are bound to vote for a song they've heard and liked. For example, not giving away my votes or anything, but I've heard Gold Digger a few times on TV, if I loved it, I'm likely to give it high points, because it doesn't have to grow on me, like some songs have to. Many of the songs sent are actually leaked songs, if you look at it, though, it just depends what blogs or what you listen to, as to whether they will alter your opinion.

I agree, I was going to make the 'Never Leave You' point myself, but as it had no video, I thought it kinda might the point a bit pointless - but you are right. I personally don't find any of them ridiculously cheap, it's not as if they've had a big success with another single, and the hype around Eva Simons is on this site, she's not cheap at all. I guess what the point he's making, is that Mini Viva is now playlisted by Radio 1, and is being played fairly regularly on music channels, but going into the contest, it had zero video play, and it had just gotten onto the 1-Upfront list, the day after I'd confirmed. Eva, is not being radio playlisted and is not being shown on videos, his theory is true as it does show that Mini Viva is cheaper than Eva Simons. However, I don't think any of them are particularly cheap.

 

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And, really, Ben, you're right, a little of people hear fresh leaks, and quite a few leaks that are sent are highly anticipated on this site, but people are bound to vote for a song they've heard and liked. For example, not giving away my votes or anything, but I've heard Gold Digger a few times on TV, if I loved it, I'm likely to give it high points, because it doesn't have to grow on me, like some songs have to. Many of the songs sent are actually leaked songs, if you look at it, though, it just depends what blogs or what you listen to, as to whether they will alter your opinion.

 

I think you have played a blinder selecting Mini Viva - it has been timed to perfection IMHO, as it has come up the blindslide getting the acclaim and popularity which is building in a low key way whereas Eva Simons got a load of flak that now appears to be completely unjustified.

 

The point I am making is that Eva Simons was regarded as cheap from the off, yet despite it being available to buy on UK iTunes for the last fortnight, and the video and song is available to be added to radio (it got rejected by Radio 1's playlist committee meeting two weeks ago for apparently being too generic!) and music station playlists, nothing is happening with it as it is showing all the symptoms of bombing in the charts like "The Girl & The Robot" - a fellow EMI label record.

 

However, Mini Viva was Scott Mills Record Of The Week four weeks ago so got 5 guaranteed airplays on Radio 1; was then added to Radio 1's 1-Upfront playlist before being added to Radio 1's playlist last week. This from a girl duo who are the latest signing to Simon Fuller's 19 stable; from an act who supported The Saturdays (a very popular act on BuzzJack) on their UK tour, produced by Xenomania, yet they are supposed to be less cheap even though all indications are showing it shaping up to be a huge hit single (as the HedKandi Fred Faulke Dub Mix is climbing rapidly on iTunes (Currently #51).

 

In short it is all about perception: Because Eva Simons was regarded as cheap, I am sure that has adversely affected some people voting for it. Whereas in contrast Mini Viva was not regarded as cheap as when it was selected as an entry it lacked the hype that it now has, and has probably been looked on more favourably by those countries who use a cheapness criteria to penalise certain entries.

The point I am making is that Eva Simons was regarded as cheap from the off, yet despite it being available to buy on UK iTunes for the last fortnight, and the video and song is available to be added to radio (it got rejected by Radio 1's playlist committee meeting two weeks ago for apparently being too generic!)

 

For real? :wacko: Where did you find that out? That's a joke... Considering that station still plays Nickelback...

 

Anyway, I think it's best to draw a line under this now. Neither song is cheap, and there's nothing to say that either song will be the winner. If you want something to do, start attacking Alcazar again :teresa:

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I think you have played a blinder selecting Mini Viva - it has been timed to perfection IMHO, as it has come up the blindslide getting the acclaim and popularity which is building in a low key way whereas Eva Simons got a load of flak that now appears to be completely unjustified.

 

The point I am making is that Eva Simons was regarded as cheap from the off, yet despite it being available to buy on UK iTunes for the last fortnight, and the video and song is available to be added to radio (it got rejected by Radio 1's playlist committee meeting two weeks ago for apparently being too generic!) and music station playlists, nothing is happening with it as it is showing all the symptoms of bombing in the charts like "The Girl & The Robot" - a fellow EMI label record.

 

However, Mini Viva was Scott Mills Record Of The Week four weeks ago so got 5 guaranteed airplays on Radio 1; was then added to Radio 1's 1-Upfront playlist before being added to Radio 1's playlist last week. This from a girl duo who are the latest signing to Simon Fuller's 19 stable; from an act who supported The Saturdays (a very popular act on BuzzJack) on their UK tour, produced by Xenomania, yet they are supposed to be less cheap even though all indications are showing it shaping up to be a huge hit single (as the HedKandi Fred Faulke Dub Mix is climbing rapidly on iTunes (Currently #51).

 

In short it is all about perception: Because Eva Simons was regarded as cheap, I am sure that has adversely affected some people voting for it. Whereas in contrast Mini Viva was not regarded as cheap as when it was selected as an entry it lacked the hype that it now has, and has probably been looked on more favourably by those countries who use a cheapness criteria to penalise certain entries.

Oh, yes I completely agree, that Eva Simons has been getting some unnecessary cheap claims, probably the reasoning behind that is because it was supposed to be a Rihanna & Lady Gaga collaboration.

 

I just admitted that Mini Viva would be cheaper than Eva if we're talking in terms of cheapness, although none are particularly cheap as they are/were a generally unknown act with a debut single. I have previously stated that it's a shame that they've been getting this video play and radio success because it will be reflected very badly on the success, and whether people will vote for it, I think I'm pure lucky that the contest isn't a week or two, by which time the track could be playing non-stop on radios. I actually had no idea the remix was doing so well on iTunes.

 

I will say, I agree with your statement, that if we're saying Eva is cheap, then Mini Viva are cheap also due to their airplay success, correct. However, like I've said, I would debate that any of them are that cheap at all. But, yes, from the point of view, and the point you were trying to make, yes, Mini Viva should be seen as "cheaper".