August 17, 200915 yr :lol: :lol: Yeah, Chris, think about it mate.... hey scott, you havnt told chris about santa clause have you? :rofl:
August 17, 200915 yr Author hey scott, you havnt told chris about santa clause have you? :rofl: Nah, I was gonna leave that to you mate... I've got the Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy and God covered though...... :lol:
August 17, 200915 yr What the f*** are you on about? :mellow: Would you not rather try to turn someone into a useful member of society, instead focusing on the medieval 'YOU DID THIS SO WE'LL DO IT BACK'. What the f*** do we gain from that apart from satisfying our atavistic desires? Go out and stop 100 people in a big shopping centre and ask them if they think the Bulger killers spent long enough in jail and also if they should have had new identities or just let out to the wolves. Let me know what percentages you get but I can hazard a good guess now. I don't know anyone who thinks they were sufficiently punished. They should have been inside, on bread and water until they die. Edited August 17, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris
August 17, 200915 yr Nah, I was gonna leave that to you mate... I've got the Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy and God covered though...... :lol: Well the last one's sorted as I am an atheist. :P Just why are there so many Is Elvis Still Alive sites then? Even I was shocked at how many Google actually brings up! :o So not just me thinks it's a possibility then! Edited August 17, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris
August 17, 200915 yr Go out and stop 100 people in a big shopping centre and ask them if they think the Bulger killers spent long enough in jail and also if they should have had new identities or just let out to the wolves. Let me know what percentages you get but I can hazard a good guess now. I don't know nyone who thinks they were sufficiently punished. They should have been inside, on bread and water until they die. That's argumentum ad populum Chris...as a (rather cliched, but whatever) parallel, I'm sure if you ask 100 people in a German supermarket in 1939 if they think Hitler's doing well you'd probably get favourable responses... And what benefit does that AT ALL provide for society other than satisfying our basal desires for revenge? NONE WHATSOEVER. By rehabilitating them to become useful members of society, we reduce reoffending rates and, er, produce useful members of society! :mellow: And I'm SHOCKED that you're so moronic as to believe that because there are lots of 'Elvis Is Still Alive' sites online that that makes it any more true :manson: Has it not occurred to you that they could all be deluded also?
August 17, 200915 yr Surely the punishment should fit the crime though? It's not revenge as you say but JUSTICE. Can you honestly say 7 years, 1994 to 2001, was long enough for killing a little boy. It's ludicrous. No wonder his parents were so angry when they were released. As Rob said, a 10 year-old knows that to lead a toddler away, sexually assault him then kill him is WRONG. I knew such a thing was wrong at 10 and so did my daughter. Wonder if you'd be defending those pieces of filth if they'd killed your child. The case just makes me want to leave this fooked up country and emigrate. :o Edited August 17, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris
August 17, 200915 yr Surely the punishment should fit the crime though? Can you honestly say 7 years, 1994 to 2001, was long enough for killing a little boy. It's ludicrous. No wonder his parents were so angry when they were released. As Rob said, a 10 year-old knows that to lead a toddler away, sexually assault him then kill him is WRONG. I knew such a thing was wrong at 10 and so did my daughter. Wonder if you'd be defending those pieces of filth if they'd killed your child. The case just makes me want to leave this fooked up country and emigrate. :o That was the point though - they'd been raised into such twisted and abusive childhoods that they saw such activity as NORMAL. Hence why rehabilitation took a greater role in that case...
August 17, 200915 yr If they weren't going to ever be released but spend the rest of their natural lives in a prison cell from age 18, then they wouldn't need rehabilitation though!!! I'm sure the other prisoners would have arranged some "rehabilitation" for them too!!! <_< <_<
August 17, 200915 yr I believe 100% that the moon landings were faked yes, about 50-50 on Elvis, I really cannot believe I have just read this post. :rofl: I'm not even going to try to put an argument asgainst it, because if you believe this truly idiotic ideas that have been emphatically disproven, then you are way beyond logic and reasoning. :manson:
August 17, 200915 yr If they weren't going to ever be released but spend the rest of their natural lives in a prison cell from age 18, then they wouldn't need rehabilitation though!!! :mellow: THE POINT OF REHABILITATION IS TO TURN THEM INTO USEFUL MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, NOT USEFUL MEMBERS OF JAIL CELLS. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND YOU THICK FUCK?
August 17, 200915 yr Well the last one's sorted as I am an atheist. :P Just why are there so many Is Elvis Still Alive sites then? Even I was shocked at how many Google actually brings up! :o So not just me thinks it's a possibility then! Because they make money out of people like you who actually believe such tripe!
August 17, 200915 yr :mellow: THE POINT OF REHABILITATION IS TO TURN THEM INTO USEFUL MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, NOT USEFUL MEMBERS OF JAIL CELLS. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND YOU THICK FUCK? I know that but my point was that they shouldn't be anywhere near society after killing that boy! :rolleyes:
August 17, 200915 yr I know that but my point was that they shouldn't be anywhere near society after killing that boy! :rolleyes: So you think that, in effect, these two boys should have been given a longer sentence than anyone else in recent history? After all, a "life meaning life" sentence could easily have been 70 years or more. As there would be little point in any sort of rehabilitation if they were never going to be released, what do you suggest should they do for those 70+ years? And, to repeat a question you haven't answered yet, who would want to be a prison officer in charge of large numbers of people with no hope of release?
August 17, 200915 yr Author You know, I was going to write an extremely long post just pointing out all the ways that Chris is just totally delusional, wrongheaded and just plain DUMB about this and a whole raft of unbelievabely ridiculous missives he's coming away with... ...But I see Tyron and Suedehead have totally beaten me to the punch.... :lol: Nothing I can really add to their absolute demolition jobs of all of Chris' arguments.....
August 17, 200915 yr Author Well the last one's sorted as I am an atheist. So, that means you're a grown man who believes in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy then...... :lol:
August 18, 200915 yr Go out and stop 100 people in a big shopping centre and ask them if they think the Bulger killers spent long enough in jail and also if they should have had new identities or just let out to the wolves. Let me know what percentages you get but I can hazard a good guess now. I don't know anyone who thinks they were sufficiently punished. They should have been inside, on bread and water until they die. well in that case its a good thing that the people who run the system are more developed, intelligent, and have some understanding towards victims. what sets us apart from animals, what sets us apart from other underdeveloped countries, what sets us apart from the past...is our ability to THINK. to consider and offer compassion towards victims. ok...if they dont want/reject the help offered and continue to offend, THEN you throw away the key.... the correct and intelligent thing to do is to try to understand why evil acts happen, then the conditions that created it can be addressed BEFORE other acts are committed.
August 18, 200915 yr :mellow: THE POINT OF REHABILITATION IS TO TURN THEM INTO USEFUL MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, NOT USEFUL MEMBERS OF JAIL CELLS. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND YOU THICK FUCK? :rofl: Because they make money out of people like you who actually believe such tripe! :rofl: chris...shut tf up, you are making an even bigger arse of yourself.
August 18, 200915 yr So, that means you're a grown man who believes in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy then...... :lol: :rofl:
August 22, 200915 yr The Mother used to go into the Garden - smoking - while Baby P was being tortured. She said that she could not stand to hear the Baby's screams. She didn't do a thing about any of it. The Step Dad trained his Rottweiler to open its jaws wide, & he'd then put the Baby's head in the Dogs mouth. He then encouraged the Dog to bite down on the Baby's head. The Coroner found the Dog's teeth marks on the Baby's head. Basically the Step Dad was just constantly thinking of new ways to torture the Baby - Baby P - Peter Connolly. So he trained the Rottweiler to attack the Baby. It is better that these things are known - so that all can see what they did to that Baby. Even though it makes me want to vomit. Even though I see his face when I go to sleep every Night, & feel haunted by his pain, & his fate. A Woman in the USA has very recently been given 99 Years in Jail, for cutting her Baby Boy's gentials off - whilst she was off her head on Drugs. But, the 3 Savages who tortured Baby P, get next to nothing, for what they did to that little Baby. He was 17 Months old when he Died, & he'd been tortured for at least the last 3 to 5 Months of his short life. He never knew love - just torture & pain. Even Satan would not want such vile, Sub-Human creatures in Hell. I want all 3 of them to be cast down so far, that even Satan has to look down, to see where they are - using a telescope. And I hope that if there is an Heaven, that Baby P is being loved & looked after, as if he is the most precious Baby in the entire Universe. I am not Religious, but I can only find comfort in this matter, by the thought that Baby P is in a better place - & that his 3 tormentors have a fate worse than Hell waiting for them, when they die. The Baby was made to do 'Sieg Heils' by his Step Dad - or he got beaten up. If his Step Dad clicked his fingers, the Baby had to get into a pose, where he was sat on the floor with his head touching the ground. He was not allowed to lift his head again until his Step Dad clicked his fingers. He was made to stay in that pose for 20 Minutes at a time - sometimes longer. The Step Dad also lay him on his back, naked, & would punch the Baby in the testicles - over and over. He would sit him on a Computer Chair, & whirl it around - punching the Baby, as it turned. The Baby would fall off, & be put back on the Chair, for more torture. The Baby's ribs were broken, & his finger nails were pulled out with Pliers. His toe nails were also tortured. The Baby would scream & scream & scream, & not one of those 3 'People' gave a damn. His real Father had custody of him, every Weekend or so. The last time the Father saw him, he delivered him back to the 'Mother', & the Baby screamed 'Daddy! Daddy! Daddy!', because he did not want to go back. He knew that as soon as that evil Bitch got him indoors, he'd be beaten & tortured again - and that even his real Father did not seem to care. Baby P would scream - in terror - everytime the Step Dad came into the Room. One of the 2 Brothers in the House, broke the Baby's back. The Coroner said that the Baby had either been put over someones knee, & had his back bent like a twig - or he'd had his back slammed down something like a Bannister on the Stairs. (So, even had he lived he'd have never been able to walk again). He was finally killed, when one of the 'Men' punched him in the face so hard that one of his teeth was knocked down his throat. He slowly Died - in his Cot - that Night. There was blood over his clothes. Someone had also swung him about - by his Ears - so that one of them was hanging off. I do not like violence, but I cannot bear what they did to that Baby, & I think that all 3 of them deserve to Die - slowly. It is even said that the Step Dad filmed himself torturing the Baby, via his Mobile, & that he's buried the 'phone in some Woods - hoping that no-one ever sees what he filmed. There are not enough tears on Earth to weep enough for Baby P - and not enough pain in the World for the 3 'People' behind it, to endure. Edited August 23, 200915 yr by zeus555
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