People who vote BNP for those reasons are as bad as the genuine racist BNP voters. Because they will be JUST as responsible as the racists when the BNP get in power and throw the country back into the dark ages.

 

 

So why don't the two main parties waken up and listen to the people like my old mum who were born here and are crying out "no more asylum seekers"? I was only in Barnsley 4 days in August and heard people talking about it on every bus I went on. They seem to have dispersed them around the country now. As mum says "we don't want them here in Barnsley"

Edited September 9, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris

So why don't the two main parties waken up and listen to the people who were born here and are crying out "no more asylum seekers"

 

Because not everyone shares that view.

 

You'll find just as many people, if not more, opposing a blanket ban on immigration.

A compromise would be more acceptable/suitable. That is what they should be working towards, not just pandering to the knee-jerk reactions of the Sun/BNP brigade.

I'd say let spouses in then and qualified professionals like Dr's, Architect, pharmacists etc. Not sure about all these foreign nurses. Lots of Filipino ones are still coming to London as my wife knows some. Why not encourage more people here to become nurses?

Edited September 9, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris

So why don't the two main parties waken up and listen to the peoplelike my old mum who were born here and are crying out "no more asylum seekers"? I was only in Barnsley 4 days in August and heard people talking about it on every bus I went on.

Because not all people are against immigrants. And some asylum seekers have a genuine reason for being here, like to escape persecution.

THIS. I second all of this.

I agree with your point about deporting any immigrant who commits crime; if someone came in and pissed in your house, you would kick them out. The same principle should be extended to countries.

 

However I don't agree with your idea on blocking ALL immigration. I'd say if there is a GENUINE reason (asylum, death threats because of political ideology, family members etc.) I say fair enough, let them in.

If Britain was to close it's doors off to everyone, should we also not expect all other nations to close their doors of to us, don't forget plenty of Britons go off for retirements in the sun, new lives in warmer climates etc.

Because you deliberately make comments that you KNOW are going to bring you nothing but grief. You know by now everybody's views on your lifestyle, so what did you honestly expect would happen when you come in stating that "everybody should be working" when you yourself don't? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

The more you post, the more I'm inclined to side with those who believe you to be a deliberate wind-up troll. I'm sure the mods here and admin too would agree with me that wind-up trolls aren't what Perspectives is about. Perhaps in the Lounge, or the Saturdays forum. Not here.

 

Not really convinced by that tbh

 

If say there is a muslim immigrant who is in fear for his life as he may be persecuted if he stays in his country it should be the obligation of fellow muslim countries to take their fellow people before it is Europe's obligation so the likes of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Algeria, Egypt and so on should take them not Britain and in the event of say a Pakistani who is fleeing he would have to fly over like a dozen European states to get to England so he should go to one of them if no muslim country will take him but agreements should be set into place that a muslim country must take a fellow muslim person, if he is flying over all these countries to reach England he must feel we are a generous soft touch handouts wise which to me is a wrong reason for someone to come

Not really convinced by that tbh

 

If say there is a muslim immigrant who is in fear for his life as he may be persecuted if he stays in his country it should be the obligation of fellow muslim countries to take their fellow people before it is Europe's obligation so the likes of Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Algeria, Egypt and so on should take them not Britain and in the event of say a Pakistani who is fleeing he would have to fly over like a dozen European states to get to England so he should go to one of them if no muslim country will take him but agreements should be set into place that a muslim country must take a fellow muslim person, if he is flying over all these countries to reach England he must feel we are a generous soft touch handouts wise which to me is a wrong reason for someone to come

 

Why should it be the responsibility of another Muslim nation? Why would a country like Egypt be any more responsible to take in a Pakistanti child than Britain or France? So would you expect to see all Britons blanket-banned from any nation which isn't officially Christian (the VAST majority)?

Why should it be the responsibility of another Muslim nation? Why would a country like Egypt be any more responsible to take in a Pakistanti child than Britain or France? So would you expect to see all Britons blanket-banned from any nation which isn't officially Christian (the VAST majority)?

 

Surely the person themselves would be happier in a muslim country

 

If say an Italian was in fear of his life from Burlesconi his interests would be best served fleeing to Spain or Portugal or another catholic country

 

There is an organisation called the Arab League, they should look after thier "brothers"

Surely the person themselves would be happier in a muslim country

 

If say an Italian was in fear of his life from Burlesconi his interests would be best served fleeing to Spain or Portugal or another catholic country

 

There is an organisation called the Arab League, they should look after thier "brothers"

 

The risk in that is that a Muslim nation may be more likely to be friendly to the government of another. Why would they help an "enemy" of that government? I'm not saying it would definitely happen, but it's a risk no?

Surely the person themselves would be happier in a muslim country

 

If say an Italian was in fear of his life from Burlesconi his interests would be best served fleeing to Spain or Portugal or another catholic country

 

There is an organisation called the Arab League, they should look after thier "brothers"

But there's already a muslim population in the UK and lets face it, even wit the credit crunch our country offers a better way of life in terms of education, healthcare etc etc....

 

....again, the Italian can find other catholic services in this country because we are tolerant of what other people believe and thus a safe haven for people who are fleeing their country because of their beliefs. Why are you limiting why someone would escape persecution to another country purely on religiouse reasons? There are political and racial reasons as well.

I don't mean to throw out the old cliché but I don't think that the BNP deserve to live never mind have the privilege of trying to justify themselves, however, if it means that Nick Griffin is slaughtered live then I give that a big thumbs up <3

Having read through this thread I have to say that it's obviously a touchy issue when it comes to immigration, but I don't think anyone should be responsible for anyone else and that having certain countries responsible for others based on their religion is absolute rubbish, as there ARE people in the world with no religion like myself, and I think that just promotes the idea of "go back where you came from" to be honest if you keep people quarantined like that, it just sounds really selfish and I think it would promote a lack of cultural acceptance and equality. If people want to move country because of things like war and stuff, let them, I definitely wouldn't want to live here if I was in their situation. However, I don't like when people come over here just to bleed the country dry, but that's not an issue on race, that just goes for absolutely everyone who thinks they can come here and not contribute and take from our resources without any valid reason. They at least owe that to us. I don't agree when people in this country bleed it dry either, all the dole-happy people. But as I said it's nto a race thing with me.

I don't mean to throw out the old cliché but I don't think that the BNP deserve to live never mind have the privilege of trying to justify themselves, however, if it means that Nick Griffin is slaughtered live then I give that a big thumbs up <3

 

 

Disgusting post. :angry: Wishing death on someone just because you disagree with their political opinions is awful. Nick Griffin has as much right as you to live.

Disgusting post. :angry: Wishing death on someone just because you disagree with their political opinions is awful. Nick Griffin has as much right as you to live.

I don't mean PHYSICALLY slaughtered. LOL and an opinion is one thing, but when you try to have that opinion become law is where the trouble starts because that power can completely DESTROY our nation as the multi-cultural and multi-sexuality nation we have just now. My opinion is that everyone should have some morality in them no matter what, and his political opinion involves hatred of different kinds of people. What sorta democracy is that?!

I don't mean PHYSICALLY slaughtered.

 

Sorry then but you did say he doesn't deserve to live which is a bit strong.

Sorry then but you did say he doesn't deserve to live which is a bit strong.

LOL it's just a figure of speech, I just think anyone who is a racist or a homophobe is tarnishing everyone else but the other racist or homophobe's lives by encouraging such a hateful message to be spread, and I'm aware it's a bit strong but if he can't function in today's society with the decency to support everyone's right to EQUALITY then he shouldn't be treated as an equal person. Other governments let homophobes and racists stay in this country for the sake of free speech so why shouldn't he let people stay for the sake of keeping their own identity?

Chris, how is Lewis wishing death on Griffin any worse than Griffin wishing all immigrants get put on a raft and dumped in the ocean to die?

 

I am pretty sure Griffin deserves death. sick racists don't deserve life.

Why do debates here always get turned in to personal digs against me and my lifestyle? My last post was on topic yet BA comes back with insults and an inflaming post. :rolleyes: Let's stick to discussing in general please as I'm doing. I'm sure the mods here and admin too would agree with me that personal digs aren't what Perspectives is about. What I do in my life or where my income's from is nothing to do with anyone here. Let's stay on topic then shall we?

 

because no one likes you, your lifestyle is repugnant to all including genuine people on incapacity benefit. i have a m8 who is manic depressive and he tries to work all the time. you sit on your fat arse and hypocritically pass judgement on others who chose not to work, your views are aimed deliberately to get a reaction, do us a favour and LEAVE.

because no one likes you, your lifestyle is repugnant to all including genuine people on incapacity benefit. i have a m8 who is manic depressive and he tries to work all the time. you sit on your fat arse and hypocritically pass judgement on others who chose not to work, your views are aimed deliberately to get a reaction, do us a favour and LEAVE.

 

 

You don't have to like a poster on a forum to have an intelligent adult debate with him or her though! Anyway how can you say people dislike me? You and the others don't even know me!!! :rolleyes:

You don't have to like a poster on a forum to have an intelligent adult debate with him or her though! Anyway how can you say people dislike me? You and the others don't even know me!!! :rolleyes:

 

no you dont have to like them, but in the absence of 'liking' them you need to respect them... no one respects you because you seem smug the be a bone idle layabout leeching of OUR hard earned money, plus you have NEVER made an intelligent comment in this forum, you just spout unsubstantiated bollox or contradict yourself at every turn.

 

who came bottom of the buzzrate by a country mile?.... oh yes, that youd be YOU wouldnt it!

 

i might take unilateral action here and delete every post you make in this forum, im sick of each thread returning to being a crazychris thread.... just GO AWAY.

I'd say let spouses in then and qualified professionals like Dr's, Architect, pharmacists etc. Not sure about all these foreign nurses. Lots of Filipino ones are still coming to London as my wife knows some. Why not encourage more people here to become nurses?

 

 

Excuse me but is this not an intelligent post then Rob? Notice no-one has bothered to comment on what I said! :rolleyes: My wife's heard of girls in the Philippines who are wanting to become nurses just so they think they'll be able to get here for a better life.

Edited September 10, 200915 yr by Crazy Chris