Excuse me but is this not an intelligent post then Rob? Notice no-one has bothered to comment on what I said! :rolleyes: My wife's heard of girls in the Philippines who are wanting to become nurses just so they think they'll be able to get here for a better life.

 

no because it directly contradicts this earlier post.......idiot.

 

Doesn't anyone here agree with the BNP policy of no more immigration at all, because I do. We're an Island with finite space and our health, housing and social services are already over-stretched. There's been a sharp rise in births amongst immigrants, both legal illegal, it was announced last week. Maternity services here in London are very over-stretched. We should close our borders NOW and let NO-ONE ELSE IN, NO-ONE AT ALL. It's nothing to do with race and colour at all. Many immigrants living here near us are in fact white, from Lithuania, the Balkan countries etc. If anyone wants to debate this without personal insults and saying I'm a BNP member, which I'm not, then feel free.

 

The BNP should never be given the oxygen of publicity, they're not a Legitimate political party, and they certainly have no right to claim to represent "Britain", they represent ONLY a bunch of ignorant, knuckle-dragging ENGLISH CHAVS, and a bunch of "Loyalist", Sectarian Orange Lodge c/unts in Northern Ireland; Scotland and Wales want bugger all to do with them, we have SNP and Plaid Cymru, who are far more reasonable, rational and far more inclusive of different cultures...

 

In this country we've banned several Islamist political organisations for preaching hatred and inciting terrorism, well, people seem to forget that a supporter of Combat 18/BNP and Right Wing neo-Nazi politics was tried and convicted in this country of TWO bombings, one which targeted a Gay Pub, the other which targeted an Asian-run market... THESE ARE HATE CRIMES, these are crimes inspired by the "Politics" of Nick Griffin and his cohorts every bit as much as the July 7th bombings were carried out by people who would support Abu Hamza and orgs such as Al Moujharoun, oh and let's not forget the fact that the BNP have had links to Loyalist terrorists such as Johnny Adair.... So, it's what, one set of standards for Asian Muslims, and another set of standards for White Christians...? Fukk off with that sh!t..... <_< Hypocrisy pure and simple.... Ditto with Thatcher's banning of Sinn Fein back in the 80s.... Well, sorry guys, but if Sinn Fein and Hamza were effectively banned and/or incarcerated, I see no reasons not to do the same thing to Griffin's bunch of scum....

 

The powers-that-be NEVER listened to us when we in the The Anti-Nazi League took to the streets well over a decade ago to bring these b'astards down, we successfully saw off Griffin's lot in Scotland by running them out of the country with their fukkin' TAILS BETWEEN THEIR LEGS, and, as the cowardly little sh!ts they are, they've never crossed the borders since to mount a national campaign North of the border....

I forwarded my complaints to the BBC, more with the idea of seeing what DRIVEL they reply with, this is what I got:

 

 

We appreciate that you're unhappy with reports that BNP leader Nick Griffin may appear on 'Question Time'.

 

The BBC is obliged to treat all political parties registered with the Electoral Commission and operating within the law with due impartiality. There is evidence of electoral support after the BNP won two seats in the European Elections so like any party in this position the BNP will appear on programmes like 'Question Time' and 'The Andrew Marr Show'.

 

However you may find it interesting to know that the BBC's Chief Political Advisor Ric Bailey has written an Editor's blog that provides a more detailed analysis of this issue and which can be viewed below:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2009...nd_the_bnp.html

 

 

They basically annoyed all points I made in my original complaint about it being a NONE legitimate party.. <_< Bloody BBC.

They are a legitimate party though...albeit one with hideous Stone Age views, but nonetheless a legitimate one. This issue isn't so much one with the BBC as much as one over the definition of a legitimate party under British law, and whether it ought to be modified...

They are a legitimate party though...albeit one with hideous Stone Age views, but nonetheless a legitimate one. This issue isn't so much one with the BBC as much as one over the definition of a legitimate party under British law, and whether it ought to be modified...

 

exactly..... im not supporting them but as ive already said, as long as they are a legitimate party then they should be treated as one... thats the problem, they are legit...

Just wondering something. Have any of you who are so against the BNP actually ever looked at their website to see what their policies are? They actually have some quite decent policies on there. I'm sure I read that it's the most visited site of all the political parties.

exactly..... im not supporting them but as ive already said, as long as they are a legitimate party then they should be treated as one... thats the problem, they are legit...

 

Democracy hey!

 

Who cares if they manage to get Question Time, they will never be able to change my vote. What's the point really? Surely people know what they are about. I know a lot of idiots may get brainwashed into supporting them.

 

Anyway with a creepy eye Griffin had - he should never be allowed on TV. It freaks me out.

^ Agree with Mushy and Tyron - there really isn't a lot the BBC can do it about it.

 

Whether the BNP are $h!ts or not cannot be the point; they ARE a legitimate political party who have seats in parliament. That is the difference between them and the Islamist extremist groups that Grimly mentions. The BBC is based on a foundation of impartiality, and for them to actually go out of their way to deny airtime to a legitimate political party would strip away everything that it stands for.

Just wondering something. Have any of you who are so against the BNP actually ever looked at their website to see what their policies are? They actually have some quite decent policies on there. I'm sure I read that it's the most visited site of all the political parties.

 

 

It doesn't take a genius to know what they are all about. They are xenophobes!

 

I'm sure there isn't one non white person on their wesbite.

It doesn't take a genius to know what they are all about. They are xenophobes!

 

I'm sure there isn't one non white person on their wesbite.

 

You didn't answer my question. :rolleyes: Have you visited their website and looked in detail at any of their many policies?

You didn't answer my question. :rolleyes: Have you visited their website and looked in detail at any of their many policies?

 

Chris, what do you really think they are going to come out and publically declare they hate all ethnics and endorse hate crimes and violence? They're scum, but they're not totally stupid. This is how they are sneaking into the public consciousness, prevent a nice, family-friendly face before taking charge and installing a racist and homophobic regime.

 

I have had a peek on their website, although I can't say I wished to spend too long on there. We know they want to stop all new immigration, which has already been shouted down in this thread. They accompany their immigration page with a charming little photo of a row of asylum seekers, headed by a misssile-wielding terrorist. Because clearly this is what all immigrants do.

They also wish to end foreign aid, which although logically justifiable, is pretty damn heartless.

 

You didn't answer my question. :rolleyes: Have you visited their website and looked in detail at any of their many policies?

 

I don't sit at home all day browsing the internet. I actually work.

 

I don't people to see I've been visiting the websites. Everyone knows their main policies are immigration etc.. They haven't got any real policies.

You didn't answer my question. :rolleyes: Have you visited their website and looked in detail at any of their many policies?

 

Jesus christ Chris you just don't get it do you :rolleyes:

 

I swear to god you recycle the same old $h!t just to get a reaction so you can drink your cider and beat off at the comp over all the attention you are getting :rolleyes: Now pull up your pants and read the fukkin facts

 

it is NOT as such about POLICY, I said yesterday that I agree with some of their policies but because of the background of those in the organisation, what they have been involved in over the years, their hidden agendas, their open holocaust denial etc etc I wouldn't vote for the f***ers even if they pledged to abolish income tax, read up their Wiki page Chris about some of the charming individuals that have made up their command presently and in the past and at the same time Wiki Combat 18 and Johnny Adair

 

 

But there's already a muslim population in the UK and lets face it, even wit the credit crunch our country offers a better way of life in terms of education, healthcare etc etc....

 

....again, the Italian can find other catholic services in this country because we are tolerant of what other people believe and thus a safe haven for people who are fleeing their country because of their beliefs. Why are you limiting why someone would escape persecution to another country purely on religiouse reasons? There are political and racial reasons as well.

 

If we were a bigger country I would have no problem with immigrants coming in, I would happily swap Crazy Chris and feckless chavs for a muslim any day of the week but as I said in another post muslims are by nature big breeders and have large extended families so letting them all come and settle into this country is unsustainable

If we were a bigger country I would have no problem with immigrants coming in, I would happily swap Crazy Chris and feckless chavs for a muslim any day of the week but as I said in another post muslims are by nature big breeders and have large extended families so letting them all come and settle into this country is unsustainable

You're being abit Malthusian, i think advances in technology and the right policies introduced by the government will solve the problem.

You're being abit Malthusian, i think advances in technology and the right policies introduced by the government will solve the problem.

 

 

A survey has revealed that the Muslim name Mohammed is the third most popular name for baby boys in the UK.

 

According to experts, the number of babies being named Mohammed shows the huge growth in the UK’s Muslim population, and name has also been predicted to reach number 1 within two years, reports the Sun.

 

The Office for National Statistics has revealed that Jack and Oliver are England and Wales’s most popular boys’ names.

 

Mohammed came in third when all the different spellings were included, such as Muhammad, Mohamed and Mohammad.

 

The name, spelt as Mohammed, has become more common among newborns than Thomas or Harry, and it has shot up 18 places over the last year to 16th.

 

There were 708,711 children born in England and Wales in 2008, with 26,815 boys’ names and 34,043 girls’ names registered.

 

 

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mohammed...s-in-uk/514953/

 

 

 

Given the fact that only around 12% of the country are not from the indigenous population the fact that the name Mohammed and its variations is the 3rd most common name in the country for a baby boy now and at current rate of growth will soon be the most popular it is further example that muslims breed like rabbits so while I am happy for the current ones to stay in England provided they stay within the law I really don't think that the country can sustain the growth in the muslim population or any other non indigenous group so I think the doors need to be closed to new arrivals unless they are a professional such as a surgeon or wealthy investor who can make an impact on UK life, to be fair to muslims it is unfair to just target them in terms of closing the doors so in fairness I would close the door and bring in the rules above for everyone be it an Australian or Abu Dhabian

A survey has revealed that the Muslim name Mohammed is the third most popular name for baby boys in the UK.

 

According to experts, the number of babies being named Mohammed shows the huge growth in the UK’s Muslim population, and name has also been predicted to reach number 1 within two years, reports the Sun.

 

The Office for National Statistics has revealed that Jack and Oliver are England and Wales’s most popular boys’ names.

 

Mohammed came in third when all the different spellings were included, such as Muhammad, Mohamed and Mohammad.

 

The name, spelt as Mohammed, has become more common among newborns than Thomas or Harry, and it has shot up 18 places over the last year to 16th.

 

There were 708,711 children born in England and Wales in 2008, with 26,815 boys’ names and 34,043 girls’ names registered.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mohammed...s-in-uk/514953/

Given the fact that only around 12% of the country are not from the indigenous population the fact that the name Mohammed and its variations is the 3rd most common name in the country for a baby boy now and at current rate of growth will soon be the most popular it is further example that muslims breed like rabbits so while I am happy for the current ones to stay in England provided they stay within the law I really don't think that the country can sustain the growth in the muslim population or any other non indigenous group so I think the doors need to be closed to new arrivals unless they are a professional such as a surgeon or wealthy investor who can make an impact on UK life, to be fair to muslims it is unfair to just target them in terms of closing the doors so in fairness I would close the door and bring in the rules above for everyone be it an Australian or Abu Dhabian

1)Not all immigrants are muslims.

2)There are less babies being born by white parents to the role of women changing from housewives to career orientated ladies and therefore having a child is less of a priority.

3) As a population pyriamid atm it is becoming top heavy, which means the proportion of old people to young will be become bigger. When the coffin dodgers start snuffing it the population levels will either level out or drop.

4) I still think technology and a more incentives to create jobs by the government would prevail.

5) Take note of the bit i made bold :P

Edited September 10, 200915 yr by Tom Araya

You didn't answer my question. :rolleyes: Have you visited their website and looked in detail at any of their many policies?

 

I have actually, and whilst I agree in principal the state of immigration in the UK is probably too high, I refuse to go along with their stone age ideas. Nick Griffin has in the past:

 

- Denied the holocaust.

- Claimed to want to send all immigrants in a raft to sea and die.

- Stated in the BNP CODE you must be WHITE to join.

- Along with founding chairman of the BNP claimed to be a 'neo-nazi'

- Claimed not to be racist.

 

It doesnt take a genius to see what the BNP is, which is probably why you don't.

 

I guide you, therefore to this video:

 

 

As for those of you saying they are a legitimate party, not much the BBC can do etc... totally agree, as i stated earlier, i more sent the email to see what kind of response I GOT.. Going back to what I first posted in this thread after all, they ARE a legitimate party and whilst they make me sick, there isn't alot that can be done because there are still bone idol idiots who feel the need to vote for them...

Oh for god's sake Chris, I do recall I posted an ENTIRE rebuttal to the BNP's policies (which I have read in great detail, thank you very much) just a few months back? Or are you far too dimwitted to recall? Would you care for me to quote it, or are you just going to ignore it again?

I requote...

 

No but the wait for Council Houses here in East London is years as they're all given to Immigrants. We've never been able to get one. See, backed up my point with a fact there! Have those of you who hate the BNP ever read their website? A lot of their policies actually make a lot of sense. If it's such an awful party how come it's the most read Website out of all the parties then? Oh and before anyone accuses me of being racist as they did on a certain other forum I can't be as my wife isn't white but from the Philippines!

LMAO. Are you seriously retarded? Since when did having the most read website mean that they weren't awful? :rofl: I have to say, that does stand out as one of your most hilarious points...LOADS of people read the BNP website out of morbid fascination with the extreme right, or even merely for a laugh. Their policies make sense? OK, let's just take a look...

 

How can anyone try to deny that the BNP are racist when they are a whites-only party? [source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle5183833.ece] What are you going to try and say next, you're not a racist, you're a realist? :rolleyes: How can you support the BNP but have a Filipino wife? It SCREAMS incompatibility when your wife IS AN IMMIGRANT HERSELF!

 

Additionally, I quote from the 2005 BNP manifesto:

 

We do not accept the absurd superstition – propagated for different though sometimes overlapping reasons by capitalists, liberals, Marxists and theologians - of human equality." British National Party: Rebuilding British Democracy general election manifesto 2005, p. 17

Oh, you don't support a racist party do you? :rolleyes:

 

And now, onto their policies...

 

IMMIGRATION — time to say ENOUGH!

 

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

 

To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.

 

We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

 

How can you support this but claim to want the best for Britain? What the hell would this nation gain from sending back the LEGAL immigrants, AND paying them to do so? This nation has retained a distinct cultural identity which has been enriched by multiculturalism - for goodness sake, tikka masala is our national dish now, which goes to show that (despite it actually being a British dish, although perceived as being Indian) this nation has embraced multiculturalism! Additionally, this country's economy had been booming between 2004-2007/8 due to the cheap labour that supported our economy, be it Polish or Lithuanian or Czech - do you seriously see the arrogant majority of unemployed Britons taking on jobs such as picking fruit or farming? Additionally, MANY of the current immigrants that you perceive as robbing this country ARE leaving - the Polish z³oty has risen in value against the pound, so many of the foreign workers who helped our economy when it was on the up are returning to Poland/Lithuania/wherever when it's in a downturn. To forbid immigration is economically unsound! Additionally, the BNP are NOT the party to support in an economic downturn:

 

ECONOMY — British workers first!

 

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes

Yeah, do you want to tell me the last time we responded to an economic downturn with immediate protectionism...THE GREAT DEPRESSION. Hence why it took a bloody world war to get everyone trading again and get us out of the Depression!

 

TRANSPORT — time to invest!

 

Increased investment is needed in Britain’s public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.

 

Oh, I'm sorry. You want to encourage people to use public transport...by making using your car more tempting? :mellow: Cutting fuel tax, raising speed limits...hardly effective ways of encouraging public transport use!

 

FOREIGN AID — time to spend our money on our own people!

 

We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.

INCOMPETENCE AND CORRUPTION?! Guess who caused that? Would these countries, which had been home to civilised and technologically developed societies prior to the British rape of Africa between the 1600s and 1800s, really be subject to this now had we not caused the problem and stolen the natural wealth of the Africans? Rather ironically, take a look at Zimbabwe...its farming methods have reduced the once breadbasket of Africa to a husk of a nation production-wise. Why? Because Mugabe confiscated land from the white land owners and gave it to black owners regardless of whether they knew what to do with it or not...sounds a lot like the sort of thing that the BNP are trying to do :rolleyes: Additionally, where would we save money by BRIBING people to return to their homelands? I only see eventual collapse of our economy tbh from a. bribery and b. the loss of revenue from their work in this country...don't tell me you've fallen for the myth that immigrants don't work hard! :rolleyes:

 

NORTHERN IRELAND — an end to sectarianism!

 

Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in Northern Ireland to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism — from whatever side — once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.

 

I'm sorry, they think they can IMPROVE things by effectively denying representation in some quarters of Northern Ireland, refusing to allow Sinn Fein into government? Don't see that one going down too well there, do you? In the long run, they wish to end the conflict by inviting Eire back into the UK? HAVE THE BNP EVER READ A F*CKING HISTORY BOOK?

 

DEFENCE — no more cuts!

 

Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain’s armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake — a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.

Defend our homeland and our independence? Do the BNP seriously think that the UK is at risk of invasion any time soon...or do they fear the consequences of a BNP government?

 

DEMOCRACY — letting the people decide!

 

The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level.

 

Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.

Removal of curbs on freedom of speech...so we can go around preaching hate against blacks, gays, Muslims, the whole bunch! Because that's all it really restricts at the moment in all honesty. And the government IS accountable to the people it is elected by. That's what ELECTIONS are! And for goodness sakes, what would the BNP have us do? Spend millions on a referendum for every bloody issue to have the result influenced by Sun-reading dimwits who would back the death penalty for the first bloody candidate for a possible crime to be found? The death penalty is a barbaric practice which is unjustifiable and motivated only by the base human instinct for revenge - hardly the best grounds on which to respond and punish a crime!

 

I await your response with glee...

 

I still await your response with glee.