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I think it closed down in maybe 2015. It had artist pages with all their entire discography listened and their entire chart runs plus a line graph to show it's performance in the top 100. It was so satisfying for chart nerds like me and I hate there's nothing really like it these days..

I guess most fanbase driven albums freefall anyway. It's just the charts these days. Saying it again but streaming may have made the ease of listening to music easier but it's totally ruined the charts.

The show absolutely needed a group to win to justify the existence of the category. It would have been ridiculous to make it to series 9 without one winning. Looking back, though, how on Earth did Marcus Collins get to the final? Could you imagine if he won?! BTW - does anyone know if the contestants stayed in touch or said anything about Little Mix after the show? I saw Marcus in some photos with Jade a few years back and I know Misha B posted about Tulisa and X-Factor (possibly about the bust-up she had with Little Mix that Tulisa addressed on the show, I can't remember) but would be interesting to see what relationship, if any, the other acts have with them. Oh, and I found old Popjustice Forum posts from the live shows saying Perrie's Dad actually spoke about Misha B's bullying towards them. I'll try find it...

I was rewatching their old X-Factor performances and it truly is incredible how so many various factors aligned to boost them into the winning position. Of course they were very talented and their first few performances were already miles better than The Saturdays - only other girl group at the time - but of course, typically girl groups don't do well on the show and they had very little screen time prior to the live shows. They were the bookies favourite to go out first and even in the groups category the focus was on The Risk as the 'main' contenders They were lucky in a sense that there was a push for a group to win the show at last and that The Risk just didn't take off in popularity like expected. I also think that Janet peaking too early, Tulisa destroying Misha B's chances and the stupid twist of Amelia being eliminated and brought back too late to secure a fanbase really meant all the competition was being bulldozed out of the way for LM to grab the win. The Week 1 twist probably helped them more than anyone else too as out of 16 acts it would have been so easy for them to be forgotten and in the bottom two. Tulisa having picked them to be safe over 2 Shoes showed to the public that they must have had something about them considering 2 Shoes were quite popular at that point. ALSO they were lucky they had Tulisa as a mentor because Louis would have been hopeless with them, Gary wasn't keen on them and thought Perrie should have been the lead and Kelly wasn't that involved with her acts. Tulisa was the most hands on and passionate for her acts. Looking at the public votes they were already doing well on Week 2 but were close to the bottom two in Week 3 (their weakest performance) but again, they were 'lucky' in a sense that the following week Jesy had her trolling storyline which I guess helped build a connection and give the group a name and a face they could remember and empathize with. After that VT of Jesy crying, E.T being fantastic and the name change to Little Mix the momentum just built and built. I'm not sure how they would have fared in literally any other series. It really did feel like a culmination of so many things that just went right for them.

Ah, I love this. I know chart figures are mostly arbitrary these days but I think anyone in her position would understand how important it was that this did well and matched the other two girls. It must have been quite sad for her that Don't Say Love went to number 11 when the other girls got their moment with a top ten single so I'm so happy she got a very respectable chart position of her own to celebrate.

Also them getting number 3 together and Jesy's single being number 4 is oddly poetic, too.

OMG that's fantastic! All three of them getting number 3 is so, so fitting. Congrats Leigh!!! Stanning these girls is so ridiculously rewarding, I tell you. There is always a reason to celebrate and there's always some connection between the girls even after they split up years ago. That must be a record or something for three members of the same group getting a top 3 album?

I could watch social media content of her all day. She is just so damn funny and likeable.

Literally none of them have a huge UK fanbase. Do you honestly think someone like Emeli Sande or Shaznay Lews would have young fans/gays multi buying variants and running social media campaigns to buy the album? Mixers are so dedicated and rabid that they pushed Sweet Melody to number 1 by buying about five or six versions of the song on iTunes together. I'm sure Mixers on Twitter are running schemes so international fans can donate to the UK and get more sales for Leigh too. Again, Leigh HAS hustled and deserves the success but it's just a tad cringey when people act like the odds were against her and that it's a miraculous achievement she's charting so high.

Ehh, I love the girls but stans on here are quite ridiculous at times. People keep referring to her as an independent artist as if she's some unknown singer when she was in the biggest girlgroup of the century for 10 years, has multiple variants, done signings and has a huge Little Mix fanbase supporting her. Yes getting top 5 is great but she was never destined to miss the top 40 or something. Let's be real. Album sales are dead and anyone with a fanbase and variants can go top 10.

Yup. Totally fabricated. Shame as I REALLLYYYYY want the rock version of WLM.

Oh man, I really want the rock version but if she doesn't get top 3 that's going to be quite embarrassing because now there's stakes dependant on it. I understand the need for her to go top 3, I really do. Especially as she didn't get a top 10 single and was the only one not to do so. The problem with stuff like this is that it just becomes more of a big deal if she does fail to get the chart position and she's putting more of a spotlight on the fact she's performing worse than the others. Edit - It's fake news.

Yeah, I didn't enjoy this at all. It just looked too cheap, there were no major storylines, no big drama and some of the cast members were pretty unlikeable. I think out of all the versions of the show this one was probably the worst.

Erica ruined Season 3 for me. She was funny in small doses in all the other seasons but everything to do with her arc and role in the group in S3 was ridiculous and she was nothing more than a sassy black girl stereotype. Thank God they dialled her back for S4.

I get that it's been said Stranger Things isn't the kind of show to slaughter their main characters but it is ridiculous that just off the top of my head we've had Hopper, Steve and Max all having moments where the audience gasp and think they're dead only for them to be saved and then after processing El's 'death' in the finale it's twisted yet again to be like 'oops, no she might be dead or she might not be'. FFS. It was so hard to ever really feel any fear or suspense watching the main characters because it was so obvious that no matter what Vecna did, no matter how many Demodogs there were, no matter how many damn explosions and gunfire was happening you could be sure that all of them were going to be fine. It became especially ridiculous when about 50 military soldiers were killed by the Demodogs but then Lucas (carrying Max), Robyn and Vicky managed to evade them for so long in the hospital. Also the fact Mr and Mrs Wheeler survived their brutal attacks was a cop out as well. Considering the sheer size of the cast you'd think they'd have offed Jonathan, Steve, Murray, hell even Hopper - who, somehow managed to survive the explosion in S3, survive a Russian prison camp and single handedly kill so many military men, I mean COME ON! - but nope. EDIT - And every single episode having a plan drawn on a wall with Mike using his D&D figures as exposition and Steve/Robyn playing dumb so that Dustin could explain in simple terms for the audience was almost laughable. There were like three episodes in a row where this happened.

Absolute stupidity (and a state of the music industry these days) that her debut single was out in June 2023 and the album.....February 2026. 'Don't Say Love' feels like a lifetime ago.

Jade has never confirmed or even hinted that 'Natural at Disaster' is being about Jesy, though. It could very well be a song about an ex.

Ohhh, I wasn't aware. This I'd be interested to watch.

I got the timeline mixed up and thought that this documentary was about SMA and then realised by the last episode that they hadn't been diagnosed with it at point of filming. It did seem very slow and....pointless at times. There was alot of fluff about her Mum's past and endless home footage of Jesy as a kid and random conversations with her friends then it would jump back and forth from pregnancy stuff to Little Mix stuff. It's a weird one as she's been doing alot of press about SMA but most of the casual viewers who saw her on This Morning probably went into this documentary expecting more of the pregnancy stuff to be covered and I don't know if many people besides Little Mix stans would find most of it interesting. I'm a huge LM fan and even I thought most of it was basically the same stuff we already saw in Odd One Out. The pregnancy stuff was more interesting for me but when you realise there's nothing about SMA in it you start to realise how it could easily have been an hour long documentary instead of stretched to six episodes.

I know it's dramatized and aimed at the general public who don't follow the charts but I was annoyed at the narrative being that post-Wings they were 'flopping'. Like, they cut to Change Your Life/How Ya Doin/Little Me being at the bottom of the top 40 and it's like....that's not their peak position? Their first two albums literally went Platinum, Wings and Move went Platinum, they had an arena tour and the other singles all were Gold/Platinum too. Plus they literally had the two albums go top ten in the USA ffs.

Anyone else crushing hard on Zion? He has such a positive energy about him.

She literally just released a documentary throwing the other girls under the bus. I know she claims they've made contact but if I was one of the other girls I'd be quite upset watching this doc and seeing how Jesy/her Mum implied they weren't there for he.

Meh. It was pretty much how I expected. It's so frustrating as she's really talented and overall very likeable and down to earth but the lack of accountability ever makes me want to scream. It's like she threw in the story of another girl wanting to leave the band first (we knew Perrie wanted the group to go on hiatus in 2019 but letting everyone know in advance is different from leaving abruptly in the middle of an album launch) to make what she did right, and then brushing over the blackfishing stuff and not acknowledging how offensive the Boyz video was.....ugh. She must have been a nightmare to work with at points but it's obvious the other girls were protective of her (Jade and Perrie were literally crying in the Odd One Out documentary) and I'm just glad they reached out after the pregnancy and hopefully have all made amends. They had a beautiful friendship and it's a shame that Jesy's abuse on X-Factor led to nine years worth of issues and was the catalyst for everything that happened years later. There seems to be a shift in dynamics in 2019 because Jesy was noticeably absent from the Bounce Back single cover shoot, one of their Mix It Up YouTube games and was barely featured in Wasabi or One I've Been Missing videos. She also didn't attend Millie Bobby Brown's birthday party with the other girls, didn't mention them in her NTA speech and then all their Zoom interviews during lockdown she barely spoke. I think when they visited Brazil she didn't meet the fans either or do one of the interviews with Jade and Leigh. EDIT - Also, Jesy's Mum saying the other girls weren't there for her. That's so unfair. They were willing to meet her with a therapist present. It's not up to the other three girls - going through their own struggles - to be a therapist for Jesy. There's only so much friends can do for someone before it becomes a matter of professional help that's needed.

(I don’t think there was ever much ‘falling out’ anyway and most of the drama was fans/tabloids stirring it up)