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So I’m not loving that new development but I guess it’s giving Penny, Vinny, Harry, Nicola, Suki and Eve plenty of screen time so maybe I can get on board with it. I am not interested in Zack at all. Failed character IMO.

Didn’t Travis have a top 10 hit called Closer in 2007?

I remember there being a little fuss about the Gary Barlow comeback-his first single since Robbie went stratospheric-but I don’t really remembering hearing it outside of the chart. The song seemed pretty on brand for the time hearing it now but the performance reminded me that Gary was a terrible solo pop star. Beverley Knight though, what a performance that was! Truly an artist who deserved more.

There was more than enough story in Penny and Vinny having a baby together. We didn’t need this cheap who’s the daddy crap and have Vinny regress and become Suki’s manbaby again. The worst thing about this though is a really Wadey thing-the writing. Tonight was supposed to be some ‘gotcha’ moment for the viewers ‘you didn’t see that coming’. Well, of course we didn’t, there weren’t any clues. Penny has previously lacked screen time but I just thought she wasn’t doing anything whilst not on screen but apparently she was actually doing Harry. It’s like when they set up all the Cindy clues for Jasmine so that they could reveal her as something completely different. If there are subtle clues we don’t mind. But literally showing us something else to throw us off the scent is really bad storytelling.

Pink has two songs called Runaway. Both great as well.

Richard Bacon was sacked immediately from Blue Peter for substance abuse back in 1998. So they do have form for it.

Let’s hope not. Or hope someone uploads them to YouTube.

This is a shock. Obviously we know nothing ‘personal conduct’ could mean all sorts of things. But they’ve sacked him rather than just suspended him which suggests whatever it is is pretty big. And Scott Mills has always been one of my favourite DJs, I loved listening to his show on Radio 1 when I was at uni and I catch him on Radio 2 every now and then but I’m usually out the his before his show would come on. I’m bracing myself for being upset yet again that someone I enjoyed has another side to them… EDIT: and not this being the first issue to arise with the Eastenders Flash Forward!

If you’re all hating it so much, maybe just stop watching? We all criticise the show where it’s due but a lot of us praise it where it’s due too. If you’re repeatedly calling everything trash or whinging about the license fee, maybe it just isn’t for you?

I too recall being surprised to see Vengaboys at no.1 on CD UK! I thought Britney or Adam Rickitt would get there and hadn’t even properly heard Boom Boom Boom Boom before then. I’d heard the instrumental on a CBBC advert and obviously could tell it was a Vengaboys track but hadn’t properly heard it until it charted. Then it kind of blew up at school after that week. I wonder if the sales report of 9 July will be for the actual chart or the one aired? It’s been republished since it’s some songs losing their peaks (Lolly, Savage Garden) and others gaining peaks that weren’t aired (Semisonic, Melanie G and Sporty Thievez)

I mean, if your were up to speed you’d realise that this line isn’t as bad as it seemed at the time. He hasn’t seen Jasmine in over 10 years. Of course the bigger question is where did he get her number from and why did he call her then? The story has been vague tbf.

The second part of my post is about the thread in general, not sure why you think it would be about you. I’m just saying what I’m seeing in the thread. I’m calling out some hypocrisy when I see it. Surely that can be part of the debate? I’m really not comfortable with your implication that I’m somehow making this an unfair debate by speaking my truth? People have been free to speak theirs. As for the part that was about you. It’s quite clear that no one has been giving Catherine vitriol on the scale others have been giving it to Chappell and I think you know that. In this very thread, people who have defending Chappell haven’t necessary called Catherine a liar (something neither Chappell nor the security guard have done either) and yet in this thread people have said that Chappell must be lying and that the security guard has been forced to cover for her!

Maybe instead of being passive aggressive you should just tell me what that emoji means. Because I feel like you’re making fun of me and your tone isn’t changing my mind.

You literally said Catherine was receiving the brunt of the criticism. It’s clear that she isn’t. It was an odd thing to say as no one is necessarily disbelieving her in the way they are with Chappell. Chappell doesn’t even disbelieve her version of events, she simply put across her own. It was a daft thing to say. I’m just saying what I’m seeing. There are a number of people in this thread who have decided Chappell ordered a security guard to make a little girl cry for nothing and new evidence won’t even make them question themselves. And there have been many implications in this thread that people are only defending Chappell because they’re fans.

Sure there will but I won’t be part of it. Why are you actually laughing at me about this?

She’s getting paid as long as it’s successful. Potential viewers not tuning in will make a difference.

JESUS THIS THREAD Security guard has come forward and you’d think that would be the end of it. Nope! It’s interesting that when me and several others have posted in support of Chappell (who I’m not actually a fan of btw, Good Luck Babe is good but I’m not sold on the rest) we’ve been accused of just supporting her because we’re fans and not seeing things objectively. Then the third party enters the chat and actually manages to confirm what Chappell AND the mother said (I’ve watched that clip now, she says she didn’t know if he was one of Chappell’s people) and the same posters accusing us of some bias come straight in with ‘omg that obviously isn’t real, he’s been forced, blah, blah, blah’. YOU are the people who aren’t being objective. YOU made your mind up before any evidence came to light. YOU look ridiculous. And Joseph, the mother is getting the brunt of the criticism? What even? This is probably the most blinkered post of yours I’ve ever seen and that bar was HIGH.

I mean, I won’t touch this because I’m giving JK Rowling none of my money but there really isn’t a point. A lot of the sets look the same, the styling is very similar and Warwick Davies is still in it. Plus there really wasn’t much left out from the books that would even be interesting in film. I think there’s one character and one sequence from the first book that wasn’t in the film so how are they going to stretch the material over a series?

Again, that’s what the mother says. You don’t know if there’s more to it. People seem determined to vilify Chappell for something she didn’t actually herself and maybe didn’t happen the way it was reported. People on this thread are quite clearly put off by her not engaging with fans on the same level as some other celebs. I dare say some people are so used to having access to their celebs that they just can’t compute one that doesn’t give them that. ‘Can we find footage of Chappell being kind to the public’ what a ridiculousnous is that? Tell you what, let’s follow her 24/7 with a live stream camera and whip her through the streets every time she says something we don’t like? She doesn’t owe that girl anything and she doesn’t owe any of you anything either.

It really was something you can easily suspend your disbelief for. It’s not uncommon to take a child to their these days. If you want to rant about bad writing (and it’s all you seem to do) it really is an odd example to bring up considering other things going on in the show.

But isn’t that the issue? That’s all this is? Gossip? It’s not important and people could do with be a little less obsessed with it. She appears to be there for the music and art, not the culture.

Honestly what happened? At worst it sounds like a security guard asked someone not to do something. It’s not actually a big deal. Given everything going on in the world right now, this really isn’t the issue to be doubling down on. Why is it still being discussed now? Because people are trying to smear her. She rubs all the right people up the wrong way and like Blacksquare, I’m not a fan but I am here for it.

Maybe you should catch up so we can keep this thread coherent? Or should we have a Michael-pace thread on addition to this one?

I get it. So what you’re saying is: if you’re creative and wanting to express yourself that’s ok as long as we can affect your mental health at the same time. If you want space, stop being creative and expressing yourself. We really are reaching a low here…