braindeadpj

This is the way Germany calculates their charts I believe. I suspect they are not the only country either....

If someone is streaming just a specific song, then its not an album stream in my opinion. Album streams should only count if a person streams a certain percentage of an album otherwise its just single (or song) streams

Now that's true with the charts being announced the day after the sales week ends, but certainly in the 20th Century, when the chart was first announced on the Tuesday (or perhaps even the Wednesday/Thursday when the newspaper carrying the chart was published) the "official" Christmas no.1 can be from an older sales week. The example of 1967 given earlier - the chart dated week ending Saturday 23rd December covered sales to the 11th to the 16th December 1967 as the next chart wouldn't be published until the 26th (Tuesday) at the earliest (and as already mentioned only covered sales to the 20th), so Christmas Day would fall in the sales chart week for the w/e Saturday 6th January 1968 (or Wednesday 3rd January issue of RR). Of course newspapers may publish the chart a little earlier but almost none published what is (errenously) considered the "official" chart nowadays as almost all covered NME's or MM's chart and not the RR chart (also published in RM).

The Virgin Top 40 dates are the publication dates for RR (6th, 13th, 20th, 27th) while the 9th, 16th, 23rd and 30th December refers to the Saturday after this as most of the charts from the 70s to the 2015 use this....- so RR was published on the 27th December and the 30th December is often used as the Saturday week ending date (but actually covers sales to the 20th December - instead of the "usual" (probably) 23rd December for that week (and so wold not have included Christmas Day in its sales week either even without the adjustment.

As you say, most of them are not single week no.1s, but in most cases where it changes in the 20th Century, they're just no.1s whose reign came to an end the sales week that included Christmas Day (if compiled) and so were not single week No.1s. However one thing to bear in mind is sometimes the next chart after Christmas may still not include the Christmas Day sales week. The Christmas chart for 1967 is presumably the chart dated the 23rd December as the next chart (w/e 30th December) would not have been announced until the Tuesday/Wednesday or 26th/27th December. The chart w/e 30th December 1967 actually covers the sales period from Monday 11th December to Wednesday 20th December (they added the sales data from Monday 18th to Wednesday 20th to the Monday 11th to Saturday 16th sales data -the Christmas chart). Something similar may have happened during the 70s for at least some of the Xmas no.1s....

Thanks for the explanation. I guess it make sense......

So why is Merry Christmas not on ACR? It's over 3 years old and obviously declined after Christmas last year - though I guess maybe 3 weeks of zero streams may not count as a decline??

How has the chart been compiled? Inverse points by position each week?

No worries. I did find the page jumped around a bit (scrolled up and down for no reason) so easy to miscount the rows

I only see 27 pictures.... 3 rows of 9. Weird that they had Queen twice (i guess its because they gave it to 2 different members of Queen?). Ed is the only multi-winner.... I guess one of the others is a combo too to make it 25 (rather than 26)?

Continue posting it. It is a pretty worthless 'record' as they are dishing them out as they see fit rather than giving them to everyone who has achieved it and probably not even when they achieve it, but still it's 'interesting'

But it is what they mean, the full quote is: "It is the first film in chart history to simultaneously spawn three Top 5 hits, although three films have spun off three concurrent Top 10 hits hitherto." Of course as we know Grease spun off three concurrent Top 5 hits hitherto.

Ok I obviously said it wrong as you msinterpreted it. To quote them exactly: "It is the first film in chart history to simultaneously spawn three Top 5 hits" ie have three songs enter the top 5 at the same time.

Note that what the OCC actually says is that the soundtrack is the first to simultaneously place 3 in the top 5. The week before they had none in the Top 5 and now they have 3. The other examples all had prior records in the Top 5 before they put a total of 3. While subtle this distinction does make the record unique, though of course prior to 2012 and streaming (or perhaps back to 1994 or so when downloading allowed any song to chartt) 3 songs would be very unlikely to be released at the same time to enable this record to occur.

I wonder whether its like it used to be where the record company had to request (and pay for) the certification? That might explain why so many obvious receipients haven't received it yet. Yes a 1 billion, 5 billion and 10 billion would be more meaningful (or perhaps even a 1, 10, and 50, though few or perhaps none would make that?)

OK, thanks JulianT for confirming that. I thought that was probably the case...

Fairytale of new York only needs the no.1 - unlikely but you never know.....

Do you know whether it has done it unadjusted (ie without applying ACR) as well?

Since streaming is the main way that people now consume music, it would be a 1,000 people deciding to stream it - which would be a maximum of 16 'sales' (assuming they listened to the whole thing and it has 16 or more tracks).

QUOTE(-Jay- @ May 19 2023, 12:23 AM) * I’m fairly sure that hits included on both a studio album and a Greatest Hits contribute to both albums - not an “either or” situation? Yes songs count for both the parent album and the (nominated) greatest hits package.

Except for the christmas songs, Kate Bush is the only one which would've been no.1 if it had been reset prior to it actually being reset on its 3rd week on the chart as it was the biggest seller/streamer on its second week. Also technically not a rule change, as its always been said that if the record company asks for a reset due to new promotion of a record that the OCC will consider it. If its older than 3 years then it can't get an automatic reset (25% increase), but I don't think a manual reset has ever been excluded?

I would say one of the most controversial number 1s would be Please Please Me by the Beatles due to histoiry rewriting. At the time everyone knew it was no.1 as the NME, MM, Disc and BBC averaged charts attested to. However time has been rewritten as the small lowly 'for industry' RR chart has been adopted as the 'official' chart despite its considerably smaller number of contributing stores (30-85 vs 110-250) and Please Please Me was held at no.2 on that chart....

Oh yes I forgot that one and misremembered that River actually did exceed Perfect's total by a little over 1,000 even without ACR. Thanks.

Am I correct in thinking that without ACR, Ed would only have 11 no.1s? I know Merry Christmas without Ladbaby didn't make it and I don't think his one with Stormzy or Eminem did either but I could be wrong.....

My bad, you're right. 1200 streams split 50:50 would give 6 and 1 sale so 7/1200 which is approx. 1/171 and not just the midpoint between 1/100 and 1/600. So at 6.67 million that would reduce the numbers as it's not as low as I thought. The Killers may still make it as Mr Brightside would get them almost halfway there.... Of course if they count album streams then its 1 million sales..... Will they count both? Or will they just count raw streams? Perhaps 'only' 30 to 50 artists reaching it?